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IrishAm
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For the record, we in Virginia and Maryland and DC are not in the “northeast.”
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pensmama87
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In Western PA, we definitely don’t think of ourselves as belonging to the northeast. Though we really don’t fit in the Midwest, either, nor do we quite fit with Maryland and the “northern South.”
Maybe we do and are in denial.
Maybe we do and are in denial.
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PacoG
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Sort of straying offf topic…
What happens in the two states (Texas and California) that have two provinces each? Who play the larger roles the conferences of bishops or the applicable Metropolitans (in Texas, Houston and San Antonio and in California, Los Angeles and San Francisco)?
What happens in the two states (Texas and California) that have two provinces each? Who play the larger roles the conferences of bishops or the applicable Metropolitans (in Texas, Houston and San Antonio and in California, Los Angeles and San Francisco)?
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Joe_5859
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As it is, the role of metropolitans in their suffragan dioceses is quite limited. They have no power of governance.
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dans0622
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To say that they have “no power of governance” is true, ordinarily (no pun intended). But, metropolitans do have a duty of … oversight … in a few circumstances (which I can’t recount from memory…).
As for the interplay between metropolitans and the episcopal conference: the conference has a much greater role to play. It so happens, though, that for this issue, the conference left it up to the province (not just the metropolitan, by the way, but all the bishops of the each province) to determine when the Ascension would be observed. So, Texas and California could have one province with Ascension Thursday and one province with Ascension Sunday.
The Conference could have decided to have the Ascension be on Thursday (which they did, for a while) or Sunday for the entire country, if they wanted. They can still decide to do that but…it’s hard to get that toothpaste back in the tube, as they say.
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Vico
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From the US Census Bureau:In Western PA, we definitely don’t think of ourselves as belonging to the northeast. Though we really don’t fit in the Midwest, either, nor do we quite fit with Maryland and the “northern South.”
Maybe we do and are in denial.
Census Regions and Divisions are groupings of States that subdivide the United States.
www2.census.gov/geo/pdfs/maps-data/maps/reference/us_regdiv.pdf
Each of the four census Regions is divided into two or more census Divisions:
Northeast Region
- New England Division: Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island and Vermont
- Middle Atlantic Division: New Jersey, New York and Pennsylvania
- East North Central Division: Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio and Wisconsin
- West North Central Division: Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota and South Dakota
- South Atlantic Division: Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia and West Virginia
- East South Central Division: Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi and Tennessee
- West South Central Division: Arkansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma and Texas
- Mountain Division: Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah and Wyoming
- Pacific Division: Alaska, California, Hawaii, Oregon and Washington
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OraLabora
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Well I’m off to Mass for the Ascension in a few minutes. Although in my diocese it is transferred, the local Benedictines don’t operate under the diocesan calendar and they celebrate the Ascension on Thursday.
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pensmama87
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They put Florida and Delaware together?!
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Vico
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Yes, the states area below the PA southern border.They put Florida and Delaware together?!
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phil19034
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Yes, because even people at the US Census Department think Delaware is below the Mason-Dixon Line, which it isn’t.
No one said the Federal Govt was smart
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Vico
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However, all of the states in the US Census Department category of South Region permitted slavery before the Civil War.
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pensmama87
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My point about PA was that culturally, we don’t quite fit. Especially in Western PA near a “corner” of several of other regions.
There’s a lot of difference between Delaware and Florida, regardless of the reasoning the government uses to categorize them together. For people who are aware, I’m sure they’re tickled regardless of their residence.
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