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In spite of all the talk about the supposed decline of the Church in Ireland, there are many hopeful signs of new life. That being said, there are also many challenges,such as the indifference of many members of Generation X, and the infiltration of government and media by aggressive secularists intent on removing all traces of Catholicism, and Christianity in general. However, having spent most of August there in the middle of the deluge of endless rain, I could not help but think of our two latest popes and their respective gifts to us. Now is the time to be at our most hopeful.
I plan to post a few reflections on vocations in Ireland and the future of the Church there.
 
My sister has spent a lot of time in Ireland. So I’d certainly be quite interested in your observations.
 
I lived in Maynooth, Co. Kildare, studying at St. Patrick’s. While the ‘holy’ Ireland of the past had long vanished, I used to commute into Dublin to St. Teresa’s Church on Clarendon Street for the 11.30 mass. Now, it is certainly strange to me how different religious communities can be affected by the current situation of vocations to the consecrated life. Some seem to be receiving a steady, if smaller, stream of candidates. Others, just as fervent and prayerful, are not.
The Discalced Carmelites conduct this parish, and it has one of the most beautiful and awe inspiring liturgies I have ever experienced. The masses were always packed, and quite a few people who worked and shopped in the area of Grafton Street dropped in for a visit during the week. There was always a line of people in front of the confessional. After the 11.30 mass, the friars have a coffee and tea and scones brunch in the cafe which rents space from the friary, located across the courtyard from the church.
Yet, the Irish province of Discalced Carmelite friars don’t seem to be receiving many vocations at all.
Since my return to N. America, I have visited Ireland every year, and every year, at least one Sunday of my stay I will visit St. Teresa’s, and hope and pray that this church, so prominent in the history of Dublin, will be the means by which young men in future may consider a call to join St. Teresa’s friars.
While visiting my relatives this year who live in the neighbourhood of a monastery of Carmelite nuns, my cousin remarked that her son does gardening work for the nuns, and is amply rewarded with all manner of baked goods. Sadly, she said that the nuns in this particular house were all aged.
However, the Carmelite monastery at Knock does have young nuns, as do some other Carmelite nuns’ monasteries.
I happened upon a youngish priest wearing clericals in a bookshop. On his lapel was a pin with the crest of the Discalced Carmelites. He was a diocesan priest, and a member of the Third, or Secular, Order. Hope springs eternal.
 
In spite of all the talk about the supposed decline of the Church in Ireland, there are many hopeful signs of new life. That being said, there are also many challenges,such as the indifference of many members of Generation X, and the infiltration of government and media by aggressive secularists intent on removing all traces of Catholicism, and Christianity in general. However, having spent most of August there in the middle of the deluge of endless rain, I could not help but think of our two latest popes and their respective gifts to us. Now is the time to be at our most hopeful.
I plan to post a few reflections on vocations in Ireland and the future of the Church there.
I think it’s true to say that old “Catholic Ireland” is gone, helped in no small part by our recent economic prosperity. That said, I don’t think you’d find many people who’d want to return to the type of Catholic Ireland that we had in the mid-twentieth century - the ‘faith’ that so many people appeared to have was often based on fear. My own parents who are not even in their fifties remember the days when one would often be ‘named and shamed’ by the priest from the pulpit if they had missed Mass or had not been to weekly confession. The ‘powers that were’ in the Church did their best to protect the morals of their flock, but very often the influence in political circles and censorship regulations went beyond what most people would be comfortable with.

There is no doubt but that certain sections of the media do have an agenda against the Church (indeed, often any faith system). The Irish national broadcaster, RTE, has been frequently accused of expressing anti-Catholic sentiments. However, there are very rarely attacks made against the Church based solely on what the Church is doing today - if a bishop speaks out against something perfectly justifiably and honourably he will often be attacked by the media not because of the point he’s making but because of the view that “who is this guy to talk about such and such an issue after what Fr. so and so did a hundred years ago…”. The past gives people a chance to attack the Church and they do not want to let go of it.

On the other hand, while people use the past to attack the Church, there are at least some who hark back to Ireland’s strong Catholic heritage and feel that the Church is worth defending. Every day there are letters to the editor in various newspapers attacking the Church for something - but I find that most of the time it will be followed the next day by a strong and suitable counter-argument. This is quite heartening - as one newspaper reported last year, the Catholic Church in Ireland is beginning to find its voice again.

With regard to vocations, there is evidence that they are slowly on the increase. The national seminary at St Patrick’s Pontifical College, Maynooth, has quite a small number of students studying there (around 80, I think), but the numbers increased slightly last year, and I think are expected to increase this year. Some religious orders are doing better than others - the Redemptorists and the Dominicans seem to be doing ok, I think. For convents, the Poor Clares report strong and constant interest from women in their way of life. It is interesting that it is the traditional orders and contemplatives that are attracting vocations. In a previous thread I suggested that maybe that was because they have the same mission as always (prayer, preaching etc.) whereas other orders such as the Sisters of Mercy, Presentation Sisters, Christian Brothers, Patrician Brothers, who were major players in Education and Health have to some extent lost their identity (temporarily, I hope) with the Church’s declining influence in these areas. In terms of vocations to diocesan priesthood, I feel there is not enough being done - not in my diocese at least. There are vocations directors and occasional notices in Church newsletters that those who feel they may have a vocation should talk to one of these priests. However, I believe that there are thousands of people in Ireland right now who have a vocation to priesthood or religious life, but they are not heeding the call and are not being encouraged to either. I have no doubt that there are plenty of potential vocations among those who do not attend Mass or who have fallen away from the faith. For this reason I think it is essential that vocations directors venture outside their church to attract vocations - they should be visiting schools and presenting the religious life as being as worthwhile as any other occupation - Jesus didn’t sit around and wait for the twelve to come to Him - He went out and picked men from all walks of life.

With that rant out of the way, I must say that I am very hopeful for the future of the Catholic Church in Ireland. While many see the Church as being weak at the moment, I think it is the opposite. My main hope, however, is that the Church here will take a major and active hold on the current vocations issue - we all know that we need priests, and with the majority of our priests over the age of sixty, we need to get moving on this issue and put our thinking caps on!
 
I note with great pleasure that there are twenty two young men entering St. Patrick’s Maynooth this year.
While doing some research a few years ago, I had the good fortune to be able to stop at Glenstal Abbey, and noted that there was a fairly healthy number of young monks. Visiting Knock last year, I drove my rental car from the hotel where I was staying (all B&Bs being packed) and followed the sign to the Carmelite monastery. Being quite fond of St. Therese, I can never resist the opportunity to call at a Carmelite monastery and make a donation. The nun who answered the door indicated that their house was quite healthy in terms of vocations. I note also that monasteries of Poor Clares seem to be in good shape, all having received some young blood in recent years. The Redemptoristine monastery in Drumcondra put the solemn profession of one of their nuns earlier this year on the internet. Finally, at the bus station in Waterford this year, I met a Cistercian nun, who mentioned that her monastery had a few in the novitiate.
I believe most monasteries of Cistercian monks have at least some members in formation. So, the contemplative life in Ireland, with some exceptions (sadly, Kylemore Abbey in Galway being one) is healthy as a whole, and the diocesan priesthood, judging from the numbers at Maynooth going up each year, seems to have a healthy future-relatively speaking.
As for speaking to schools-I know for a fact that the Presentation Brothers, the smaller of Bl. Edmund Rice’s two congregations, do speak to classes of students, and that they do, according to their communications director, have about seventy men in dialogue with them regarding membership.
What I find intriguing is that people are now able to temporarily live in hermitages at Glendalough parish and in Ferns, Co. Wexford-and this experience is proving to be very popular. Could it be that this is a sign of something new in the Church?🙂
 
Good grief! This all sounds very sad! I’m 25 and can tell you that there are thousands of young practising catholics! What about youth 2000? The Clonmacnois youth festival? The Knock youth festival? Youth prayer groups! I think the Church is smaller but it’s better because now the youth who join it, join it because of a true and educated desire to become part of it and not because they are terrified! Vocations will follow! but I think that this is also a matter that has to be brought up at home, and that our future generations have to be taught that having a vocation is a valid option for their future! We have to be patient and pray! Personally I’m not worried because I trust that God will look after us and never leave us without earthly guidance. I know that the future of vocations may look bad, and that parishes have to close down and every week we’re told to pray for vocations, and we do, and our prayers will be answered! Obviously, I’m not saying that we might not hit some rough patches, but that’s simply the cycle of life and history.
 
Three Irish people get together, and an argument starts?

Oh, that never happens. Especially not at my house. 🙂

(We’re part German, part Scottish, part Irish, part Jewish, and all stubborn.)
 
🙂 Ha! ha! I am actually half scottish well, I’m not sure it makes for a good mix… We all have fierce personalities and fiery tempers!!
 
Argument? What argument? Irish people never argue. They just…debate things very forcefully. I am very aware of Clonmacnois, of its association with the late great John Paul II, and the credit he gave to this particular monastery for reimplanting the faith in post Roman Europe. I hadn’t mentioned the Clonmacnois nor the Knock youth festivals up to now, but I concur that the rumours of the Church’s demise in Ireland are very much exaggerated (or wishful thinking on the part of some in the media). On a personal note, I met a friend unexpectedly at the 2007 Knock youth festival, a Presentation Brother from Cork who was escorting a group of young people from the school where he ministers. The Presentation Brothers and Presentation Sisters have opened a joint mission to the Roma in Slovakia. And, yes, smaller is sometimes better.
 
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