Holy Orders: Immediately to bishop?

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Here’s Pope Clement XIV on Catholic Hierarchy:

catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/bganl.html

It seems he was a friar without Holy Orders up to the point of election for Pope. Does this mean he was immediately ordained bishop without priest or deacon before? The current ordination rite for bishops looks like it presupposes priesthood, so there’s no ordination for consecration of the Holy Communion, hearing confessions etc included. So, are Holy Orders for bishops assume to include priesthood if not conferred before, or does such a ceremony simply combine all the necessary elements without dividing it into two separate priestly and episcopal ordinations?
 
That link states that he was a Cardinal-priest in 1759. 10 Years LATER he became pope. In any event, perhaps being “professed” means that he received the Order of the Priesthood?

But, what is your point? It is possible for a layman to be elected pope and then receive Holy Orders and the Episcopal rank. Here are some examples:
St Fabian 236-250
Leo VIII 963-965
Benedict IX several periods 1032 - 1056
John XIX 1024 - 1032

It is not likely these days though.
 
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Here’s Pope Clement XIV on Catholic Hierarchy:

catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/bganl.html

It seems he was a friar without Holy Orders up to the point of election for Pope. Does this mean he was immediately ordained bishop without priest or deacon before? The current ordination rite for bishops looks like it presupposes priesthood, so there’s no ordination for consecration of the Holy Communion, hearing confessions etc included. So, are Holy Orders for bishops assume to include priesthood if not conferred before, or does such a ceremony simply combine all the necessary elements without dividing it into two separate priestly and episcopal ordinations?
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Episcopal Ordination is to the fullness of the priesthood. Remember that there is only one Sacrament of Holy Orders. It is conferred in different degrees. Today what you describe would not happen, that a man would be ordained a Bishop from the Lay state.
 
If a layperson would be elected, they are Ordained to the Epsicoplate State, but Ordinations to the Diaconate and the Presbyteriate would be specifically included.
 
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If a layperson would be elected, they are Ordained to the Epsicoplate State, but Ordinations to the Diaconate and the Presbyteriate would be specifically included.
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Actually I have heard that he would be ordained to each of the offices in succession.

First to the Diaconate, then the priesthood, and then the following day to the epsicopate. They would not skip the steps.
 
vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/apost_constitutions/documents/hf_jp-ii_apc_22021996_universi-dominici-gregis_en.html

APOSTOLIC CONSTITUTION
UNIVERSI DOMINICI GREGIS
ON THE VACANCY OF THE APOSTOLIC SEE AND THE ELECTION OF THE ROMAN PONTIFF
88. After his acceptance, the person elected, if he has already received episcopal ordination, is immediately Bishop of the Church of Rome, true Pope and Head of the College of Bishops. He thus acquires and can exercise full and supreme power over the universal Church.

If the person elected is not already a Bishop, he shall immediately be ordained Bishop.
 
That passage I know, but it doesn’t say if:
  1. This means he needs first to be ordained priest if he isn’t already (and deacon before that).
or
  1. If the rite we normally use for ordaining bishops is sufficient to ordain a layman straight into episcopacy.
or
  1. The rite we normally use for ordaining bishops is sufficient to ordain a priest into episcopacy but otherwise it needs to be combined with elements from priestly ordination.
 
If a layman were to be elected, he would have to be ordained immediately to the diaconate, priesthood, and episcopacy. This could be done fairly rapidly, if need be. Keep in mind that despite the multiple ceremonies surrounding ordination, the essemtial form of the sacrament is simply the laying on of hands.

The long way would be to simply go by the ritual book for ordination to deacon, flip the page, and continue with the ordination to priest, flip the page again and continue with the ordination to bishop.

The short way would be to have one of the Cardinals–perhaps the candidate’s “hometown” Cardinal, do a simple ordination to deacon by laying on of hands; followed by another simple ordination ritual by the laying on of hands- to the priesthood; followed by ordination to bishop by all of the Cardinals present laying on hands.

In the extraordinary event that such a thing happened, the nominee would first have to be brought to the conclave to see if he accepted the papacy, followed immediately upon acceptance by the above ordinations. All of which would be completed before any announcement was made.
 
A layman may no longer be elected to the papacy. The requirement of episcopal ordination presupposes presbyteral ordination, which is requisite to being elected.

Many years,

Neil
 
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The short way would be to have one of the Cardinals–perhaps the candidate’s “hometown” Cardinal, do a simple ordination to deacon by laying on of hands; followed by another simple ordination ritual by the laying on of hands- to the priesthood; followed by ordination to bishop by all of the Cardinals present laying on hands.
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I believe that traditionally, the right and responsibility to ordain any non-episcopal man elected to the office falls to the Cardinal Bishop of Ostia (who is also the Dean of the College of Cardinals).

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