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ServusHumilis
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Here’s another related picture I recommend; The Scarlet and the Black.
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manualman
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Not exactly. Polish non_Jewish genocide victims were largely selected from candidates judged to be a potential threat to Nazi domination over Poland. Intellectuals, political leaders and religious and secular critics of Nazism were their highest targets. “Useless mouths” were the next priority (infirm, mentally ill or handicapped, etc.). Catholic religious and priests were highly represented in the genocide of Poles NOT because they were “Slavic” but because of the spiritual and philosophical influence they had on the rest of the people.
Perhaps your main point is that the Nazis had a laser-like focus on killing Jews as part of a direct hatred, not mere utilitarian evil like protecting power or eliminating resistance. No real argument there. Proportionately, nobody else got the attention European Jews got from the Nazis. Nobody.
I do find that those who subscribe to the “Hitler’s Pope” alternate history have a hard time explaining how and why the chief rabbi of Rome who spent considerable amount of time during WWI with P12 converted to Catholicism after the war. Seems rather unlikely if P12 were a secret Nazi sympathizer…
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Kaninchen
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We’ll just have to differ and let others read the books for themselves.
Well, you’ll fail to find a ‘Hitler’s Pope’ post from me in the last 8 years but Zolli’s reasons for converting had more to do with desperation than anything else.I do find that those who subscribe to the “Hitler’s Pope” alternate history have a hard time explaining how and why the chief rabbi of Rome who spent considerable amount of time during WWI with P12 converted to Catholicism after the war. Seems rather unlikely if P12 were a secret Nazi sympathizer…
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manualman
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Oh, I didn’t mean to implicate you in a “Hitler’s Pope” mentality. My apologies for the unclarity. That was for others above.
Are you seriously asserting that the Nazis randomly selected Poles for extermination just because they were Slavs? Why, then, did they leave so many alive? Why did they do such a comparatively “poor job” of it when they were so methodically efficient with Jewish people? Seems far more likely to me that Poles who were executed were selected for utilitarian reasons while Jews were killed for xenophobic reasons.
Are you seriously asserting that the Nazis randomly selected Poles for extermination just because they were Slavs? Why, then, did they leave so many alive? Why did they do such a comparatively “poor job” of it when they were so methodically efficient with Jewish people? Seems far more likely to me that Poles who were executed were selected for utilitarian reasons while Jews were killed for xenophobic reasons.
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Kaninchen
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Eventually, all Slavs would have been disposed of - apart from a necessary proportion given ‘helot’ status - working on farms etc in the enormous new eastern territories of the Reich (which would have included western Russia, the Ukraine etc). You think that the NSDAP was going to create a thousand year Empire with a majority Slav population? Really? Where on Earth did you get that idea? Killing off Poles who might be troublesome was merely a first step.
Why not that many? Well, they didn’t have all that much time and annihilating huge numbers of people in the Shoah, in the midst of Total War, was terribly disruptive in itself (the War against the USSR v’s War against the Jews logistics were insane). After the defeat of the USSR, there would have been all the time in the world.
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Joie_de_Vivre
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They were decapitating Polish society and working to destroy Polish culture which would enable them to enslave and control them which was part of their plan.
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