Holy Scriptures, difference between just quoting and understanding

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I have notice a major difference between how a Catholic reads and understands Holy Scriptures and how the Protestant does.

As a Catholic,I read, understand and meditate on The Bible, but I admit, I have trouble remembering exactly what chapter and verse on everything I have read, because of this, I am “accused” of not understanding Scriptures.
Many Protestants, on the otherhand, are experts on what chapter and verse, ask them anything and they know exactly what verse, even can give you a cross-verse or two, but the Protestant has a very poor understanding of what he quotes and usually repeats a “prepared answer”
 
Hiyas Karen:)

IMHO …Many brave soldiers, of all faiths, have charged the battle front…without really understanding what they fight and die for. With nothing in common with the Church, except the battle cry.

Hope I don’t confuse…I made a metaphorical analogy.🙂
 
I have notice a major difference between how a Catholic reads and understands Holy Scriptures and how the Protestant does.

As a Catholic,I read, understand and meditate on The Bible, but I admit, I have trouble remembering exactly what chapter and verse on everything I have read, because of this, I am “accused” of not understanding Scriptures.
Many Protestants, on the otherhand, are experts on what chapter and verse, ask them anything and they know exactly what verse, even can give you a cross-verse or two, but the Protestant has a very poor understanding of what he quotes and usually repeats a “prepared answer”
The catholics are commited tp prepared answers. This is what is so frustrating.
 
I have notice a major difference between how a Catholic reads and understands Holy Scriptures and how the Protestant does.

As a Catholic,I read, understand and meditate on The Bible, but I admit, I have trouble remembering exactly what chapter and verse on everything I have read, because of this, I am “accused” of not understanding Scriptures.
I don’t think I’ve come across this assertion before. Who accused you? And to which biblical idea was the accusation linked?
Many Protestants, on the otherhand, are experts on what chapter and verse, ask them anything and they know exactly what verse, even can give you a cross-verse or two, but the Protestant has a very poor understanding of what he quotes and usually repeats a “prepared answer”
To which Protestant(s) in particular are you referring?

Curiously,
Mick
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I don’t think I’ve come across this assertion before. Who accused you? And to which biblical idea was the accusation linked?

To which Protestant(s) in particular are you referring?

Curiously,
Mick
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sorry maybe it is not clear:omy fault:)

It is just a generalized accusation that is thrown at many Catholics who do not use the chapter, verse type of Bible study.
for example, if I am talking to a noncatholic about The Real Presence, I know it is John 6, and can explain it perfectly,but if I can’t rattle off word for word exactly the correct verse, then I am accused of being bibically ignorant,:rolleyes:

No particular Protestant, just general, usually those of the Evangelical and/or Baptist.
 
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I don’t think I’ve come across this assertion before. Who accused you? And to which biblical idea was the accusation linked?

To which Protestant(s) in particular are you referring?

Curiously,
Mick
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sorry maybe it is not clear:omy fault:)

It is just a generalized accusation that is thrown at many Catholics who do not use the chapter, verse type of Bible study.
for example, if I am talking to a noncatholic about The Real Presence, I know it is John 6, and can explain it perfectly,but if I can’t rattle off word for word exactly the correct verse, then I am accused of being bibically ignorant,:rolleyes:

No particular Protestant, just general, usually those of the Evangelical and/or Baptist.
Thanks for the clarification. It hadn’t occurred to me that such an approach could sometimes constitute the chosen modus operandi for some Evangelicals but as I bring to mind the Evangelicals that I know and have known I don’t find it particularly difficult to believe.

Why did you post? Are you seeking support, advice, insight into the Evangelical mindset, or just getting it out of your system? 🙂

Cordially,
Mick
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I have notice a major difference between how a Catholic reads and understands Holy Scriptures and how the Protestant does.

As a Catholic,I read, understand and meditate on The Bible, but I admit, I have trouble remembering exactly what chapter and verse on everything I have read, because of this, I am “accused” of not understanding Scriptures.
Many Protestants, on the otherhand, are experts on what chapter and verse, ask them anything and they know exactly what verse, even can give you a cross-verse or two, but the Protestant has a very poor understanding of what he quotes and usually repeats a “prepared answer”
I would agree with some of what you say in general terms, but I think you must say “Catholics” and “Protestants” (plural) as groups, not “a” Catholic or Protestant. By that I mean if you surveyed both you would likely find that a greater number of Protestants “study” the bible to a greater degree and can quote Chapter and Verse than the number of Catholics who could do that. But there are some Catholics who can hold their own vs. Protestants in this area, and many Protestants who are not at all well versed in scripture.

I also think it varies by denomination. There are some where the religious education process is very bible based; that does not seem to be the general case in the Catholic Church.

I would disagree with the conclusion that Protestants have a poor understanding of what they have memorized and are just repeating what they have learned; my experience is that many have been well educated in this and have a good understanding of scripture. There are a lot of Catholics whose “knowledge” of their faith is based on rote memorization, with very little depth in understanding the meaning of what they have been taught. In a conversation with a well versed Protestant, the “average” Catholic has a tough time defending their beliefs. I think it comes down to how each has been taught their faith.

You can see this occurring in many of the threads where the OP asks for help in explaining or defending a Catholic doctrine. They may know what it is but they have not been given the tools to properly back it up in a conversation with a non-Catholic who questions a specific teaching or doctrine.
 
I don’t know if I would lump “all” protestants and “all” Catholics into one big generalization on this particular subject… But at the very least I can offer my personal experience from each side of the Tiber.

I think, as an evangelical protestant, I was more prone to memorize scriptures… (which is a GOOD thing!) but at the same time… there are many things I could not completely understand, or rather my understanding was based on the tenant of sola scriptura. For example, I would memorize passages that were dear to me, and apply my own understandings, or the understandings of my pastor/ Bible study leader to them… And often times, admitedly, I would just accept that I couldn’t completely understand what they were saying and just memorize them because the words were dear to me.

As a Catholic, I would say I’ve grown by God’s grace, in understanding the Scriptures as a whole, rather than passage by passage. In understanding the Church teachings about various subjects and Catholic theology, I find that when I open my Bible I see the continuity of Scripture much more clearly. Ideas and understandings I would never have come to “on my own” as a protestant, stand out in each page… Passages that once seemed unclear or to only have either a vague meaning, or a single application, now seem to have vast applications and “click” more than before. I see things flowing together more than before… And because I trust the Church’s understanding when I have questions or things that don’t make sense to me, I feel less likely to “go off track” when I try to apply and understand what I am reading.

I would say that now, I’m less prone to memorizing scripture, and more prone to soaking in the words more slowly, more delicately. Where I once read entire books and came away with a handful of messages, I now meditate on single chapters and see the Holy Words of Scripture as so much more than before.

Lastly, I would add that as I’ve grown in understanding of Catholic teaching, I’ve been able to understand many more concepts and messages of Scripture than before. I think a Catholic who knows his or her catechism for example, knows a great deal of what the Bible teaches. They are less likely, perhaps, to give “chapter and verse” but the Church teachings support Scripture so strongly that I think the average Catholic grasps more of the Bible than a “Bible alone” Christian would expect.

This is of course, my personal experience, but a personal change I have noticed since my husband and I swam the Tiber four years ago:)
 
The Protestants I encounter fall into two groups… The Protestant that goes to church, every now and then, can’t give chapter and verse any better than than the average Catholic. The Protestants that go to bible class and reads the bible everyday has about 20 verses that they know very well but they do not know the context of that verse. They know nothing about the history of the bible ( how it the canon of scripture come to be) or the history of the early Church.
Put a well verse Catholic apologist against a well versed Protestant apologist and, in my opinion, it is no contest. The Catholic has depth of scripture, an understanding of history, and Jewish traditions while the Protestant lack depth in all three.
 
sorry maybe it is not clear:omy fault:)

It is just a generalized accusation that is thrown at many Catholics who do not use the chapter, verse type of Bible study.
for example, if I am talking to a noncatholic about The Real Presence, I know it is John 6, and can explain it perfectly,but if I can’t rattle off word for word exactly the correct verse, then I am accused of being bibically ignorant,:rolleyes:

No particular Protestant, just general, usually those of the Evangelical and/or Baptist.
In general, protestants concentrete on something like “do reading” ==> sit and watch on Bible and next page and next page.
I think listen to Bible reading on HOLY Liturgy is more efficient.
  1. Protestants Bibles have specifical verses system:
1 verse 1
2. verse 2
3 verse 3.
Like in poems

Catholical: logical text 1 verse. 2. verse. 3 verse.

So protestants can very easy find single verse, but can’t understand long extract/part.

So they don’t like for exemple parables. Verses like that: “Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps.” do not work alone.
 
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