Holy Trinity

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When Jesus spent his time on Earth, he would have lived by the greatest commandments. Could these same commandments possibly describe the relationship between the Father, Son and Spirit, and also God’s love for us?

Jesus loves God the Father with all his heart, soul, mind, and strength.
Jesus loves each and every one of us as he loves himself.

God the Father loves God the Son with all his heart, soul, mind, and strength.
The Father loves each and every one of us as he loves himself.

When Judas betrayed Jesus, did Jesus continue to love him as he loved himself?
When the soldiers scourged Jesus, did his love continue.
When the soldiers nailed Jesus to the cross, did Jesus continue to love them?

In order to love under these conditions, there is the need to forgive, and we know that Jesus forgave on the cross. Can the forgiveness of sins hang on the greatest commandments, does the divine nature of Jeus in heaven follow on from his human nature?

Could the spirit be the power of God’s love; working through the perfection of the greatest commandments? Is it possible that God’s purpose for each and every one of us is, to have this Trinitarian relationship with each other?

And just a short passage that links the Spirit and the second greatest commandment.
1 Samuel 18

1 After David had finished talking with Saul, Jonathan became one in spirit with David, and he loved him as himself. 2 From that day Saul kept David with him and did not let him return to his father’s house. 3 And Jonathan made a covenant with David because he loved him as himself.
 
Mikaele said:
I find the concept of the Holy Trinity incredibly hard to grasp. How can 1+1+1= 1?

Also, does each Person have their own individual will? Or is it one will? And if the love between the Father and the Son produces the Holy Spirit, then does that make the Holy Spirit inferior to them?

And why do we call Jesus the Son? He doesn’t proceed from the Father in the same way a child would proceed from his parents. It’s so hard to understand. Sometimes modalism seems to make more sense.
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when u figure it out let me know 🙂
I found reading about the doctrine of the Trinity in its historical context helpful but like i said when u figure it out let me know:thumbsup:
this is a great resource if u r interested

R.P.C. Hanson, The Search for the Christian Doctrine of God: the Arian Controversy, 318-381 AD (Edinburgh: T & T Clark, 1988). A massive 900-page study of Nicaea, Athanasius, and the Cappadocians by one of the deans of patristic studies. This is the finest and the most exhaustive treatment of the theology of the trinitarian controversy.
 
I know this is quite an old topic, however I would like to share my personal understanding.

I think the answer lies in the greatest commandment: …with all your heart, mind, strength, and soul.

Heart = Parts of Body
Mind = Thoughts
Strength = Interactions
Soul = Essence

Your foot is clearly different from a thought of yours, which is also clearly different from your voice. However, your foot, thought, and voice, independently, are each exactly of “you”/essence. Also, though each part is not completely “you”, each part is necessary to complete “you”.

Body = Jesus
Mind = Father
Interactions = Holy Spirit
Essence = God
 
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