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Hey,

Does anyone know what the makeup of Holy Water is? I know it’s water, salt and some type of oil. What is the oil?

Thanks in advance,
James
 
Isn’t it just plain water, blessed (consecrated) by the Priest? This is what I’ve seen…
 
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rs316hy:
Hey,

Does anyone know what the makeup of Holy Water is? I know it’s water, salt and some type of oil. What is the oil?

Thanks in advance,
James
There are two types of Holy Water. The Blessed water used for Baptism also called “Easter Water” because it was blessed at the Easter Vigil is just water.

Holy Water used as a Sacramental usually found at the entrances of churches is just water with Blessed Salt added and then it’s blessed.

By the way to replenish Holy Water it is only necessary to simply add plain water, insuring that more Holy Water remains than the amount of water to be added. As an example when a bottle of Holy Water is 2/3 full add an additional 1/3 of plain water to it.
 
Br. Rich SFO:

How many times can you replenish the Holy Water with ordinary water (in the lesser parts you mentioned?) I have heard of this. I’ve even done it once, but I was thinking that eventually, none of the original blessed water would remain. Does all of the water become Holy Water, as potent as the original, upon addition?
 
Um, since I frequently bless it, Holy Water is just water. There is no longer any requirement to add salt (which, originally, was used as a part of the baptism rite). Some priests may still add salt, but that is unnecessary.

Deacon Ed
 
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Cherub:
Br. Rich SFO:

How many times can you replenish the Holy Water with ordinary water (in the lesser parts you mentioned?) I have heard of this. I’ve even done it once, but I was thinking that eventually, none of the original blessed water would remain. Does all of the water become Holy Water, as potent as the original, upon addition?
Holy water like many other sacramentals do not need to be re-blessed when they are replaced. For instance if the crucifix you wear wears out, you can replace it with a like one, and it is not necessary to bless the replacement. (you can if you wish to have it blessed) A sacpular also need not be reblessed or the person re-enrolled when the original one wears out. Just keep refilling it when 1/3 is used and replace it every Easter season. by the way if blessed salt is added to the water before it is blessed by the priest or Deacon it does keep better, does not turn green as quickly.
 
Speaking of replenishing holy water…

My mother-in-law was really into that. Though I don’t know how careful she was about about the porportions of regular water she added. After she died we collected a shopping bag full of bottles labeled “Holy Water,” far more than the average Catholic could ever use.

Is there a reverent, proper was to dispose of it? Otherwise, I’m afraid that my heirs will find this very same shopping bag full of bottles.
 
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maryhodge:
Speaking of replenishing holy water…

My mother-in-law was really into that. Though I don’t know how careful she was about about the porportions of regular water she added. After she died we collected a shopping bag full of bottles labeled “Holy Water,” far more than the average Catholic could ever use.

Is there a reverent, proper was to dispose of it? Otherwise, I’m afraid that my heirs will find this very same shopping bag full of bottles.
Mary,

Just pour it on the ground where it’s not likely to be walked on.

BTW, the addition of plain water to holy water does not bless the plain water. What you have is some holy water and some unblessed water.

Deacon Ed
 
Deacon Ed:
Mary,

Just pour it on the ground where it’s not likely to be walked on.

BTW, the addition of plain water to holy water does not bless the plain water. What you have is some holy water and some unblessed water.

Deacon Ed
If I fill a bottle with Holy Water from the Holy water container at the parish and use 1/3 of it every month to fill the font and refill it with plain water every month at the end of 12 months what do I have? According to deacon I have a bottle of plain water. According to the practice of the Church I have a full bottle of Holy Water.
 
Br. Rich SFO:
If I fill a bottle with Holy Water from the Holy water container at the parish and use 1/3 of it every month to fill the font and refill it with plain water every month at the end of 12 months what do I have? According to deacon I have a bottle of plain water. According to the practice of the Church I have a full bottle of Holy Water.
Because of the mixing of the water, there will still be some holy water in there. However, I’m trying to present the teachings of the Church, not some pious practice that does not have the authority of the Church behind it.

While the Eastern Churches certainly have a tradition that a thing is blessed “by use” the West does not. Sacramentals do not acquire a blessing by use or by contact with what it blessed. What you are putting forth as Church practice is, in fact, simply not the Church teaching.

Deacon Ed
 
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rs316hy:
Hey,

Does anyone know what the makeup of Holy Water is? I know it’s water, salt and some type of oil. What is the oil?

Thanks in advance,
James
Not wanting to openly debate Deacon here. I did however want to insure what I was saying was correct so I spent a bit of time this morning digging around for information. I found that there is considered in the Church five different types of Holy Water, for different uses. Common Holy water used for most blessings is common water with only salt added. Baptismal water usually blessed with the Paschal candle and sometimes does have a few drops of Oil of Catechumens and Sacred Chrism added. Holy water known as Easter Water, blessed at the Easter Vigil, and Holy Water known as Gregorian Water which contains water, small amounts of wine, salt and ashes and is blessed and used by a Bishop. Also there is “Holy Water” taken from shrines. Sometimes it is found in a pool containing a Relic. Technically this water would be a “Third Class Relic” which is also a sacramental.
 
Br. Rich SFO:
Not wanting to openly debate Deacon here. I did however want to insure what I was saying was correct so I spent a bit of time this morning digging around for information. I found that there is considered in the Church five different types of Holy Water, for different uses. Common Holy water used for most blessings is common water with only salt added. Baptismal water usually blessed with the Paschal candle and sometimes does have a few drops of Oil of Catechumens and Sacred Chrism added. Holy water known as Easter Water, blessed at the Easter Vigil, and Holy Water known as Gregorian Water which contains water, small amounts of wine, salt and ashes and is blessed and used by a Bishop. Also there is “Holy Water” taken from shrines. Sometimes it is found in a pool containing a Relic. Technically this water would be a “Third Class Relic” which is also a sacramental.
Br. Rich,.

I, too, do not wish to debate this. What you have posted corresponds very nicely to the pietistic understanding of Holy Water prior to the revision of the rites following the Second Vatican Council.

In the back of the Second Edition of the Catechism of the Catholic Church we find this definition of Holy Water:
Blessed water, a sacramental whose sprinkling or use is a reminder of Baptism and a means of sanctification.
With the reform of the rituals there are now two forms of blessing water, one in the context of Mass and the other outside of Mass. A deacon or priest may do the blessing outside of Mass but a priest does it within Mass. Neither ritual calls for adding anything to the water. The water used at the Easter Vigil is plain water that the Paschal Candle is lowered into. All other Holy Water is plain water blessed by a priest or deacon.

In the Eastern Churches deacons may not bless, so only the priest blesses Holy Water. It, too, is plain water except for that used for baptism when a little oil is added (poured in in the shape of a cross).

Deacon Ed
 
BTW, the addition of plain water to holy water does not bless the plain water. What you have is some holy water and some unblessed water.
I’ve been confused by this. Apparently Thomas Aquinas takes for granted that water added to holy water becomes holy. These quotes come from Summa Theologica:
Objection 3. Further, if any liquid be mixed with the consecrated wine, then that also would appear to be consecrated; just as water added to holy-water becomes holy.
Reply to Objection 3. As Pope Innocent says in the aforesaid Decretal, “if after the consecration other wine be put in the chalice, it is not changed into the blood, nor is it mingled with the blood, but, mixed with the accidents of the previous wine, it is diffused throughout the body which underlies them, yet without wetting what surrounds it.” Now this is to be understood when there is not sufficient mixing of extraneous liquid to cause the blood of Christ to cease to be under the whole; because a thing is said to be “diffused throughout,” not because it touches the body of Christ according to its proper dimensions, but according to the sacramental dimensions, under which it is contained. Now it is not the same with holy water, because the blessing works no change in the substance of the water, as the consecration of the wine does.
Wouldn’t this then mean that one could make an entire lake or ocean into holy water simply by pouring some holy water into it? I’d really like to see some quotes from official Church teaching.

P.S: Although problematic, Im holding out for the hope that adding any amount of water to holy water makes it holy. (I’ve been thinking about turning all 32 of the fountains around campus into holy water fonts!)
 
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jackpuffin:
I’ve been confused by this. Apparently Thomas Aquinas takes for granted that water added to holy water becomes holy. These quotes come from Summa Theologica:

Wouldn’t this then mean that one could make an entire lake or ocean into holy water simply by pouring some holy water into it? I’d really like to see some quotes from official Church teaching.

P.S: Although problematic, Im holding out for the hope that adding any amount of water to holy water makes it holy. (I’ve been thinking about turning all 32 of the fountains around campus into holy water fonts!)
I remember talking to my priest friend about this and he said that, if I remember correctly, you cannot delute the holy water more than half or it is no longer holy water. Sorry.
 
Every Catholic Schoolchild knows the answer to this one…

Q. How do you make Holy Water?

A. Boil the H&ll out of it!

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Is that really how you make it? I heard regular people can make holy water, I’m not exactly sure of what makes Holy water Holy. Can anyone tell me if this is true? I heard it is the person using it’s faith which makes it Holy. And we have this little Holy water container at home, when it evaporates where does the blessing go? Does the air become Holy with the vapors or does the blessing just go away? Thanks! 😃
 
Deacon Ed:
Br. Rich,.

I, too, do not wish to debate this. What you have posted corresponds very nicely to the pietistic understanding of Holy Water prior to the revision of the rites following the Second Vatican Council.

In the back of the Second Edition of the Catechism of the Catholic Church we find this definition of Holy Water:With the reform of the rituals there are now two forms of blessing water, one in the context of Mass and the other outside of Mass. A deacon or priest may do the blessing outside of Mass but a priest does it within Mass. Neither ritual calls for adding anything to the water. The water used at the Easter Vigil is plain water that the Paschal Candle is lowered into. All other Holy Water is plain water blessed by a priest or deacon.

In the Eastern Churches deacons may not bless, so only the priest blesses Holy Water. It, too, is plain water except for that used for baptism when a little oil is added (poured in in the shape of a cross).

Deacon Ed
I’m curious, Deacon Ed … Is it the lowering of the Paschal Candle into the Baptismal Font the action that blesses the water, or are there words of blessing said over the water?
 
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Davethewave:
Is that really how you make it? I heard regular people can make holy water, I’m not exactly sure of what makes Holy water Holy. Can anyone tell me if this is true? I heard it is the person using it’s faith which makes it Holy. And we have this little Holy water container at home, when it evaporates where does the blessing go? Does the air become Holy with the vapors or does the blessing just go away? Thanks! 😃
The blessing just goes away because the object no longer exists. No lay persons cannot Bless Holy Water.
 
Br. Rich SFO:
…Just keep refilling it when 1/3 is used and replace it every Easter season. by the way if blessed salt is added to the water before it is blessed by the priest or Deacon it does keep better, does not turn green as quickly.
It turns green? Brother Rich, what are you using a storage container???

Ours comes in little plastic bottles around Easter.

I did not know about the replensihent policy until I asked our pastor to bless the school LAN, and while he was at it, the principal asked him to bless the classrooms. He said he didn’t think he had enough water, so over to the tap he went. He’s pretty orthodox, but this is a nice confirmation.
 
When I was an Altar Boy in the late 1960’s and early 1970’s, I had the responsibility of making sure that all of the church holy water fonts were full. I was told by the Msgr that as long as some holy water remained, I was to add ordinary tap water and the whole thing would become holy water. No mention was ever made about 2/3’s of it had to be holy water.

If, on the other hand, the font was dry, then I was to fill it with the holy water that we had it the back.

Was this procedure incorrect?
 
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