Homemaking and cooking frugally help

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I’m a reluctant homemaker. Not my favorite thing, though I’ve been doing it for almost 2 decades. I hate to cook. I’d much rather read a book or weed in the garden.

Anyway…we are constantly broke. We don’t live extravagantly, but we seem to live paycheck to paycheck even though my dh is making the most money we have ever made.

The biggest budget item I have some control over is the food budget. Since I hate to cook, I’m not very good at managing it all. With 8 kids, four of them teenagers, it seems like I’m running out for food–milk, produce, etc. every other day , though we don’t eat out very often–maybe, once a month, we’ll get $25 of pizza.

Can anyone recommend a book to help me? I need not just frugal recipes, but a whole system? I’ll gratefully take advice and suggestions. Thanks so much!

Also, any other budgeting book would be helpful. We are familiar with Dave Ramsey, but somehow we can’t seem to get on a budget. I think it just feels like there’s so many needs as well as good things to do for our kids whenever there is a little extra, we are buying shoes, etc, or buy curricula (we homeschool).
 
I’m a not a great cook myself, but we always live paycheck to paycheck. One thing that seems to help us is buying in bulk at Costco. Those things that are not perishable or have a long shelf life (canned goods, dry goods, toiletries, medicines, cleaning supplies, paper products, hygiene products, etc.) we wait until we get coupons and can stock up. For the frozen goods we buy the frozen veggies, meats (their chicken frozen chicken breasts are a snap to cook!), lunchmeat, yogurt, things that keep a month or more (since it’s only two of us it can take that long to use!) Their milk is always a good price and they have orange juice 4 packs, large tubs of butter, cheese etc. We are big fruits and veggies eaters so even though they go bad within a week or two we still go for it. The produce is fresh and sold in large quantities and bulk prices. We also love their generic brand “Kirkland.” They are very good quality products and can help save even more. They have yummy pizza, it’s HUGE and only about $10. Also they have huge cakes for special days like b-days and holidays. We are big-time Costco fans if you can’t tell. 😉

Also, buying generic in general can help. Kroger brand generics are always pretty good.

I will certainly be watching this thread for further tips myself!

BTW I am also from Indiana! 👍
 
My parents raised 8 kids on the pay of an enlisted man (my dad) and somehow stretched to cover it so well I thought we were rich when I was a kid. 😃 Of course, times back then a dollar went a little further.
I do remember eating a lot of potatoes, mac and cheese, etc. Not the healthiest diet maybe but I never went to bed hungry either. And breakfast was usually oatmeal. That’s a great way to fill empty stomachs in the AM without too much cost.
Since the price of gas seems to go up almost daily lately, maybe more walking and less driving if things are close enough?
And we re-used EVERYTHING - nothing was ever used once. lol - including bath water. I remember my sisters and I (3 of us) all taking baths together.
Try buying generic or store brand whenever possible. You can save a lot of money that way, and the taste really isn’t different.
God bless you and your whole family. I hope you get this worked out.
 
we are in a similar circumstance (3 kids) with my wife staying home fulltime while i work outside the home…we homeschool as well and are living paycheck to paycheck…my wife has begun couponing (using coupons) at the grocery store and has really begun to save us HUGE amounts of money!

granted, it does take a bit of prep work, but the savings are REAL and she has been able to stretch our money further than i ever thought possible…

i’d recommend taking a serious look at the use of coupons…
 
We are in a similar situation and I have found a few things that have helped. Have you read the book “living more with less”? It is a mennonite publication - I hope that doesn’t bother anyone - but I found a lot of helpful ideas in it. There is also a cookbook “more with less” by the same people. I also started making my own yogurt, bread, tortillas, pizza dough, chicken and vegi broth, laundry soap, and other household cleaners which has helped trim the grocery budget a lot. All of the above (except for bread) takes very little time to make and is easy to do. I am looking forward to ideas on this topic from others. Always eager to learn more!
 
Try emeals.com

I hate trying to come up with ideas for meals. The cost is $15 for a three-month subscription. They give you a shopping list and instructions for each meal. There are many meal plans to choose from – gluten free, portion control, low carb… And they have meals for two or families of four (of course, if there are more than four of you, you would have to adjust accordingly).
 
The USDA has a great website with many frugal recipes. The best part is that you can search for recipes within a certain price range, method of cooking, ect. Many recipes have been rated. I don’t know how to add the shortcut, but if you google “recipe finder USDA”, you should find it.

Another idea you could try is to cook a large chicken, ham or roast beef. One evening, you can have “meat and potatoes”, the next day or two, use up the leftovers in sandwiches, soup, pizza, casserole, or anything else you can think of!

In my experience, the worst thing I can do is not thawing meat the day before. Supper time comes around, I’m tired and hungry. Not only do I have to thaw meat but then I have to cook it… Then ordering take-out becomes VERY tempting. And weekly menu planning is a must if you want to keep your costs down. Make a list of main dishes, side dishes, and perhaps even lunch dishes. Sit down with the grocery flyer and plan your meals around the deals on fresh vegetables and meats.

Have you looked into once a month cooking? I thought about it but I wasn’t willing to lose a whole day or two a month in the kitchen. I often double a recipe and freeze half. Or I’ll cook twice as much beef or chicken than I need. A pound of cooked ground beef or chicken can be thawed and cooked into something quicker than you can load the kids in the car and head over to the pizza joint.

I hope that helps. I’m always adjusting my plan as I see fit. Just last week, I instituted a leftover night. It was a great way to use up the last little bits of food from the fridge before heading out to the grocery store. I plan a meal on that day just in case there are no leftovers. The closest thing to free food!🙂
 
I am going to wade in on this. Although I am a man, I do most if not all the cooking and grocery shopping. We are now retired and our kids are grown and have their own families. With my wife raising children and me the only breadwinner, we also struggled trying to live on a budget. We had a garden and we canned and froze everything we could. The most difficult thing was the budget. I knew an average of what we spent on various things each month and set that aside in an account. For example, if your insurance costs $1200 yearly, set aside $100 per month in an insurance account. Then when insurance is due, the money is there. I had a mortgage account, phone account, food account and so on. If anything was ever left over , it went into a miscellaneous account. I was always playing with and adjusting the figures as needed. Granted, it is a pain in the rear but it works. You just start with what you make each month and subtract for the accounts till you get to zero. Staying at home and raising children is a commitment but well worth it. My children are all successful and have good jobs and families. I thank my wife every day for that. She raised them while I worked. It is tough but it can be done. We also had an account for The Lord by the way. He can’t be outdone and we could not have done it without him.
 
I there is a used bookstore close by…look for old cookbooks from 1950 or earlier if possible. Or like another poster suggested, a Mennonite cookbook. I have found these have inexpensive, cook from scratch, nutritious and yummy recipes for large families. There are also many recipe sites online that will convert from 4 servings to 8 or more easily. Coupons are great and read the flyers, buy what is on sale in the maximum amount allowed and freeze. 👍
 
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Hi Leonie, in all seriousness (I have a friend with 6 Children just getting by), if I had 8 Children the following would most definitely be set up;
(a) Large vegie garden beds with potatoes, brussel sprouts, pumpkins, broccoli, lettuces, corn, carrots, beans, tomatoes, herbs, radishes, cucumbers, zucchinis, garlics, onions; all vegetables grown all year round. These are easy to erect and the potatoes purchased as seed potatoes for starters (if you do not already have a vegie garden). This keeps the kids occupied and interested in cooking the vegies too.
(b) Purchase two Goats for fresh Milk - research everything on Goats before purchasing.
(c) At your Nearest Bakery, ask for day old breads not to be thrown away and for one of your Children to collect. This is done by many people in particular Woolworths should be giving away their day old bread and vegie items instead of throwing them away. Ask the Manager in confidence and keep it to yourself.
(d) At your nearest Butchery, ask the Owner if they ever have day old meats not sold, to be collected by one of your Children. You would be surprised at how many businesses do wish to assist large families if done quietly. Ensure though it is not older than one day.
(e) Ask your Parish Priest for one of the collections to be offered up to your practicing Catholic Family when the funds are low Leonie; do not be too proud for this either, you and your Husband brought through (8) of God’s Children to Love and support others during their Lives Leonie and to keep God’s World continuing forever!

In the meantime I am offering up one of The Holy Rosaries I pray for you and Family that all of your needs are met, for Health, Joy and Happiness Leonie.

In answer to the cooking side, I will Post Mail you with some recipes you may not have cooked over the many years and that your Children are able to cook with or without a BBQ
 
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Hi Leonie, my Love goes out to you and to all Mothers; especially Mums who have had large Families and sacrificed so much to bring God’s Children through.

It is time for your Teenagers to commence cooking (if all of them do not already take turns) of course! I would be preparing a BBQ in the Ground if you do not have a good BBQ or its been worn out over the years by digging a large deep hole, placing a large grill over the top after the fire is prepared underneath. This gives the older Children under supervision by their Father an opportunity to cook some meals outdoors during winter time. You can also google the hungi cooking ways for the older kids to cook these.

Another girlfriend of mine here in Oz recruited her boys to start on a roster system cooking whether they liked to or not a few years ago with success! I visit every now and then having a cuppa on her back verandah while I peer through the window while we chat to see who’s turn it is that evening LOL! They generally cook pasta and meat dishes with veg in them or side salads with homemade chicken schnitzels I think Heidi finds more economical than beef. You would know everything after raising your Family Leonie however I am just going to pop a few dishes that I have cooked and that by memory Heidi gets the Boys to cook. The Girls had cooked for years prior and are now leaving the bulk cooking to their Brothers.

By the way I would be buying 5 x Chooks for Eggs to run if you have a large backyard Leonie (this assists for all egg based dishes, cakes and slices); I forgot to mention on your Thread. They live on very little and the scraps from home grown vegies and meals keep them going.

Chicken Schnitzels - sliced thinly in three parts to a breast or half breasts.
Crumbs, eggs, flour, vegeta (go easy on the salty vegeta though as you wld realise)
Side salads or Vegies

I prepare potato salad differently to other people and prepare mashed potato with 5 eggs mashed in, some mayonnaise, two dollops of cream, pepper and two lightly cooked bacon rashers diced through it all; into two salad bowls.

Another quick salad are tomatoes and onion with some coriander or green herbs mixed with vinegar and sugar mixed together to make the dressing. (try the taste before you put onto the salad) either adding more sugar to remove the strong vinegar taste.

Rice Salad - Use a cheap rice cooker or boiler - diced fresh carrots, corn, peas, bacon or ham pieces, green and red capsicums, shallots if you like, mayo, cream mixed together (more mayo than cream of course), pepper, salt.

Pasta, Chicken, green beans, capsicum, corn, One Thousand Salad Dressing or any that your Family choose.

Mince Casserole or Shepherds Pie - varying ways but on the internet for recipes.

Chicken curries (mild for Children) and the Tumeric Powder is so Healthy for everyone.
The Children can print or write these down to cook. Rice as the accompaniment goes a long way as you would know.

Baking Bread - there is an electrical appliance to bake bread if you do not already have this or you can bake in the oven teaching your Children.

I tried to teach my kids how to cook Leonie during Primary School and High School; my Daughter ended up teaching herself at 19 years and cooks the most incredibly delicious dishes and highly nutritious LOL along with my son 18 years doing the odd BBQ now when I did not even bother asking them to cook!

They cook when they wish to cook or are hungry with no-one else doing it for them!

Are your Teenagers able to get jobs at Maccas after school or work in a newsagency part time or in a restaurant a few hours per week just to pay for their own basics?

This is what my brother and I did when growing up in a Country City between 12 years of age until finishing school. That way Mum did not have to pay out for clothes and things for either of us; my sisters had left home by then working. I had to cook grilled meals and vegies for the family in Years 5 and 6, learning the basics, my Sister always baked slices, cakes and desserts for us (Mum and Dad worked long hours full time) and the meals had to be ready by the time she arrived home from work plus all the housework done daily after school and on weekends. My brother (now a Chef and Restaurateur) ironically, never cooked a day in his Life for the Family yet at 16 years of age started his Chef apprenticeship. He brings home the Family’s dinner from his restaurants now 👍

If you could get one of your Daughter or Sons into a Chef Apprenticeship Leonie, that always assists as they generally tell their Siblings what and how to cook (although rather bossily is the only drawback) LOL!

I will think of some recipes over the next few days at any rate,

Will include you in tonight’s Novena Leonie!
 
I think one of the most important things is to have a large freezer. If you’re in a bakery and you notice they have day-old bread for half price, take it home and put it in your freezer right away. It takes only about 5 minutes to thaw a couple slices of bread, so train people to get just what bread they are going to eat out of the freezer. You won’t have any moldy bread you have to throw out, and if you make sandwiches out of frozen bread, the filling will stay chilled while the bread is thawing.

Costco is a very good idea, but keep your sales slip so you can compute the cost per item. Sometimes it is cheaper to buy things somewhere else when it is on sale.

When you pass the meat section in a grocery store, check to see if any meat is marked down because it is getting close to the expiration date. That won’t be a problem if you just take it home and put it in your freezer. It is also a good idea to look at the frozen meat in a grocery store. Sometimes it is marked down so much that it makes Costco’s meat look expensive.

If you like to eat chocolates for dessert sometimes, go to the store on the day after Valentine’s day. You can usually get a heart-shaped box for half price. Again, take it home and put it in the freezer.

Always watch for a good sale on a large bag of potatoes.

Go to the store a few days after Easter and you will see great sales on large hams.

When blueberries are in season, buy a lot of them and freeze. They freeze very well without adding anything, and you can go to the freezer and get what you need.

There are probably a lot more things I can’t think of right now, but if you practice these kinds of things consistently, you will notice that you’re getting a lot of food for very little money.
 
My parents raised 8 kids on the pay of an enlisted man (my dad) and somehow stretched to cover it so well I thought we were rich when I was a kid. 😃 Of course, times back then a dollar went a little further.
I do remember eating a lot of potatoes, mac and cheese, etc. Not the healthiest diet maybe but I never went to bed hungry either. And breakfast was usually oatmeal. That’s a great way to fill empty stomachs in the AM without too much cost.
Since the price of gas seems to go up almost daily lately, maybe more walking and less driving if things are close enough?
And we re-used EVERYTHING - nothing was ever used once. lol - including bath water. I remember my sisters and I (3 of us) all taking baths together.
Try buying generic or store brand whenever possible. You can save a lot of money that way, and the taste really isn’t different.
God bless you and your whole family. I hope you get this worked out.
Sounds familar - especially the bath water and the potatoes. Healthy teenagers that are constantly hungry and active can consume massive amounts of high starch food that is filling without causing excessive weight gain. Potatoes, rice and macaronie were a primary side dish at every meal when I was growing up. Large quantities at a cheap price. Make sure the leftovers are eaten and not tossed helps streatch a dollar too.
 
Try emeals.com

I hate trying to come up with ideas for meals. The cost is $15 for a three-month subscription. They give you a shopping list and instructions for each meal. There are many meal plans to choose from – gluten free, portion control, low carb… And they have meals for two or families of four (of course, if there are more than four of you, you would have to adjust accordingly).
Savingdinner.com is similar and it looks like it costs about the same but emeals.com seems easier to navigate.

I’ve tried some sample menus and recipes from Saving Dinner and I thought they were doable and I’m not a wiz in the kitchen. If I was cooking for a family I think these would be a go-to.
 
moneysavingmom.com often has good cheap meal ideas. Good money ideas are often in mytotalmoneymakeover.com/modules/fusetalk3/forum/index.cfm too, look for threads about “budget critiques.”

Most of what I do is keep a price book- I have a list of everything we normally consume, and what the cheapest price is normally goes on sale is for. Example: Cheese goes on sale at Kroger every few weeks for 1.33. If it’s not on sale, it’s 2.99. I have my price book so I can always look at something, and if I’m not sure it’s a good price, see what I usually buy it at.

Fruit and veggies, buy whatever is on sale that week- if grapes are in season and 99c/lb, buy those for the kids to snack on. We eat mostly organic, and this doubly applies!

Simply reading the ads and buying those things we normally eat- say a month’s worth- at a low price saves us tons. We spend $350/mo for a family of 4.

Toothpaste I only buy free- $1 off when it’s $1 at Kroger or HEB; it’s always Colgate or crest.

I also freeze a lot of things- meats, cooked beans (crockpot, then baggies in freezer in portions), breads, sauces, soups, etc.
 
I’m a reluctant homemaker. Not my favorite thing, though I’ve been doing it for almost 2 decades. I hate to cook. I’d much rather read a book or weed in the garden.

Anyway…we are constantly broke. We don’t live extravagantly, but we seem to live paycheck to paycheck even though my dh is making the most money we have ever made.

The biggest budget item I have some control over is the food budget. Since I hate to cook, I’m not very good at managing it all. With 8 kids, four of them teenagers, it seems like I’m running out for food–milk, produce, etc. every other day , though we don’t eat out very often–maybe, once a month, we’ll get $25 of pizza.

Can anyone recommend a book to help me? I need not just frugal recipes, but a whole system? I’ll gratefully take advice and suggestions. Thanks so much!

Also, any other budgeting book would be helpful. We are familiar with Dave Ramsey, but somehow we can’t seem to get on a budget. I think it just feels like there’s so many needs as well as good things to do for our kids whenever there is a little extra, we are buying shoes, etc, or buy curricula (we homeschool).
Sorry for your troubles, but I’m so happy I’m not the only one!!! 😃 I have 5 kids here and keeping them fed without breaking the bank is a huge challenge.

The best advice I’ve heard (confession - I’m still working on implementing it) is to pick 14 - 15 dinners and rotate them through the month (which means you’re only eating the same thing 2 times a month). Create your shopping list for those meals - stuff that will store, buy a whole month’s worth. Stuff that won’t, make a separate list for each week. Knowing what and how much you need to buy is the start of being able to compare prices or use coupons (coupons only save money if you were going to buy it anyway).

To make the “system” work for my brain, I also created two other lists - one of staples that always need to be stocked (lunch and breakfast foods such as bread, peanut butter, jelly, cereal, oatmeal, etc.).

The second was a “snack” list for each week - take the number of kids times the number of snacks they need times 7 days in the week, to get the number of servings - and yes, anyone in a growth spurt counts as a double serving. Then I buy that number of servings of snacks from whatever’s on sale that week (pudding/applesauce/granola bars/popcorn/crackers/cookies/etc.) - I try to get a variety but comparison shop by serving price (not price per ounce which is useless when comparing different foods).

Once home I let the kids know that X are this week’s snacks, they get X # of snacks a day, and once they’re gone - they’re gone. A friend I know goes farther - actually dividing the snacks out into Ziploc bags, etc. and each kid has their own “snack basket”. For back-up and nutrition, I always allow them all the fresh veggies they want (that’s part of the “basics”.) This eliminates me trying to keep the stuff they like to eat the most of always in stock. From pop-tarts to Keebler cookies - everyone’s favorite usually comes up on a special deal at least once every two months so they’re not deprived. They just have to learn to accept that they’re only going to get what goes on sale - and one bag does not one serving make 🙂

So in summary - I have a plan for the month’s dinners - buying in advance ingredients that are on sale and aren’t perishable. Then each week, I buy the perishable ingredients for that week’s dinners, restock the basics, and buy a set amount of snack food designed to limit how much the kids eat during the week.
 
I’m a not a great cook myself, but we always live paycheck to paycheck. One thing that seems to help us is buying in bulk at Costco. Those things that are not perishable or have a long shelf life (canned goods, dry goods, toiletries, medicines, cleaning supplies, paper products, hygiene products, etc.) we wait until we get coupons and can stock up. For the frozen goods we buy the frozen veggies, meats (their chicken frozen chicken breasts are a snap to cook!), lunchmeat, yogurt, things that keep a month or more (since it’s only two of us it can take that long to use!) Their milk is always a good price and they have orange juice 4 packs, large tubs of butter, cheese etc. We are big fruits and veggies eaters so even though they go bad within a week or two we still go for it. The produce is fresh and sold in large quantities and bulk prices. We also love their generic brand “Kirkland.” They are very good quality products and can help save even more. They have yummy pizza, it’s HUGE and only about $10. Also they have huge cakes for special days like b-days and holidays. We are big-time Costco fans if you can’t tell. 😉

Also, buying generic in general can help. Kroger brand generics are always pretty good.

I will certainly be watching this thread for further tips myself!

BTW I am also from Indiana! 👍
You have something in common with my mom. She is also a big Costco fan. 😃

BTW, what part of Indiana are you from?

I used to live in Fort Wayne and miss it terribly.
 
Miserly Moms: Living Well on Less in a Tough Economy
by Jonni McCoy

I just bought myself my own copy instead of borrowing it from the library all the time.
 
If you have independent grocery stores near you go check them out! I have always thought independent grocery was more expensive. One afternoon I went into the one nearest my house and discovered they had great meat prices for good quality meat. While I am there I look for veggies and fruits on sale. Whatever they don’t have or don’t have at a good price I look for at Kroger or Wal-Mart. By being willing to go to a few stores and by knowing who usually has the best prices on items I need I save around $70 per week.

If you have a Dollar Tree or Family Dollar near you they accept manufacturer coupons. A lot of people don’t know this. Of course the brand has to be the same name and size as in the coupon, but its not uncommon for those stores to have national brands occasionally.

Not cooking, but money saving:

I shop on craigslist for household items from furniture to yard tools. It’s amazing what people will sell cheap. A few years ago I found a nice living room set that was owned by a single lady and barely used. I got the couch, love seat and chair for $400. They were in excellent condition and looked new. I also got a barely used shiny Craftsman lawnmower with bag for $50.

My girlfriend is trying to landscape her yard and has found materials in the craigslist free section. People even give away plants, shrubs and trees if you’re willing to come dig them up yourself.

When shopping craigslist you need to check for what you want a few times a day and jump on any deals before someone else does. It may take a few days of searching, but it’s worth it. Don’t just search your city but surrounding areas, too.

I buy most of the our clothes at resale shops. We go every couple weeks or so and make the rounds of the local stores looking for what we need. It takes some time and digging, but I often find new or looks new brand name sturdy and stylish clothes for $1-$5 each piece. The Salvation Army stores near us do a certain color tag item for 50% off and that colored tag item is also sold 5 for $5. They change what color tag is discounted every day. On Fridays they do 50% off furniture.

I have heard a lot of good things from people who use those vacuum seal thingies. Thinking about getting one so I can buy in bulk.
 
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