Homeschool pros and cons

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While I applaud your idea about homeschooling, I would think (for myself anyway) that doing with a toddler and a newborn would be impossible.
And really unfair to the younger siblings.
Just because a child is in a lower grade, doesn’t mean that the schooling is “easy”.
Teachers excel at various age groupings, but not every age group, in my opinion.
Why not allow her to just experience the fun of school while she is small, and then, if the need arises, consider homeschooling them all when they are older?
That way, at least it’s not so much of a solitary experience.
You may be feeling like you “ought” to homeschool because you’re a stay at home dad.
Just thinking out loud here…
I appreciate this, absolutely. Of course, homeschool is not my only consideration. As was mentioned in another post, we have looked into the private Catholic schools around, and we might be able to swing one child going there. But with our growing family, I can’t see us sending more than one because of the cost. I would love to send them to one of the Catholic schools around here that is highly credited and delivers an impressive curriculum. But the cost . . .

I like the idea of letting them go for a while until everyone is older, and I have considered the idea that I feel like I “should” be homeschooling because I am a SAHF. One thing I have considered is preparing my children enough to go to public school and defend their faith. I feel like this would be ideal and really good preparation for the rest of the world.

With this thread, I just wanted to explore the idea a little and get some real world thoughts, particularly from experience.

I appreciate everyone’s responses and insights. Thank you!
 
I appreciate this, absolutely. Of course, homeschool is not my only consideration. As was mentioned in another post, we have looked into the private Catholic schools around, and we might be able to swing one child going there. But with our growing family, I can’t see us sending more than one because of the cost. I would love to send them to one of the Catholic schools around here that is highly credited and delivers an impressive curriculum. But the cost . . .

I like the idea of letting them go for a while until everyone is older, and I have considered the idea that I feel like I “should” be homeschooling because I am a SAHF. One thing I have considered is preparing my children enough to go to public school and defend their faith. I feel like this would be ideal and really good preparation for the rest of the world.

With this thread, I just wanted to explore the idea a little and get some real world thoughts, particularly from experience.

I appreciate everyone’s responses and insights. Thank you!
I think there are a lot of tolerable public elementary schools. And there are decent public high schools.

Where things really go to hell in a handbasket is middle school. I haven’t read the whole thing, but this article is typical of a lot of stuff I’ve seen on the subject:

op-talk.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/09/10/time-to-ban-middle-school/

Middle school is often a social, emotional and academic disaster–a waste of three precious years of a child’s life.

So, if you were to choose just one time to either homeschool or private school, the middle school years would be my suggestion.
 
I think there are a lot of tolerable public elementary schools. And there are decent public high schools.

Where things really go to hell in a handbasket is middle school. I haven’t read the whole thing, but this article is typical of a lot of stuff I’ve seen on the subject:

op-talk.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/09/10/time-to-ban-middle-school/

Middle school is often a social, emotional and academic disaster–a waste of three precious years of a child’s life.

So, if you were to choose just one time to either homeschool or private school, the middle school years would be my suggestion.
I agree with this. Middle school is where children start to get these politically correct notions about marriage, sex, and whether or not religion is “necessary”. Middle school is where bullies tend to thrive. Middle school is a lot of pressure for pre-teens to believe that they are “grown” and don’t need (name removed by moderator)ut from their parents. I would shelter them at that time…and then find a fine High School, Or save for Catholic High School.
 
God bless, whatever you decide and props for being a STAF! That’s really awesome.
 
Daniel IIT. Without reading every word you typed,
If you are already a teacher,and your Wife a Nurse (. So is mine ). (. Midwife )

Then you should go with the homeschooling idea,
 
I homeschooled our oldest child (now 20, doing fine on his own in another state) from 3rd grade up through high school, and I’m now homeschooling our other children, as well (ages 17, 10, 6, 4, 3, and an infant).

I must respectfully disagree with pianistclare about homeschooling little ones. I have done it, and it can be difficult, but not at all impossible, to homeschool even with a toddler (or two) and a newborn! In fact, we often included the toddler(s) in “lessons,” and no one got shortchanged. It did take some flexibility and creativity, though! 😉

We generally take homeschooling a year at a time, taking into account each child’s needs and our available resources. So far, homeschooling has worked well for all of them–whether advanced or struggling learners, introverts or extroverts, task-oriented or people-oriented, early risers or night owls… I simply love that I can adjust to meet our family’s (or even each child’s) needs.

Our oldest son was hired by his current employer, and recently promoted, based mostly on his people skills, and my teenage daughter can hold her own quite well in conversations with adults and has often been complimented on her wisdom and maturity… so these days, I tend to find the “what about socialization” question rather amusing! Still, it helps to have a homeschooling support group and a Catholic youth group nearby, as well, for camaraderie, shared knowledge, and support.

A lot depends on the resources available to you (especially locally) and your willingness to find and make use of those resources. Kindergarten, especially, is a great year to “dig in” and figure out what works well and what doesn’t work for your child and/or your teaching style. Kids at that age are generally eager to learn, can sit still and work at a desk or table for a reasonable amount of time, and will often be willing to try new things without too much difficulty. Plus, some of the stuff they’re learning is just plain FUN, even for the educator! :cool:

For the OP, since you’re talking about a four year old here, perhaps your wife would consider you homeschooling through preschool and/or kindergarten to see how it goes and then you two can reassess the situation before 1st grade begins?

If you’re in the U.S., most states don’t require attendance records and such until 1st grade (age 6-7). Be sure to look up the homeschooling laws for your state (HSLDA is great for this) and begin complying (as much as is appropriate) now, to get into the habit and to have an idea of what to expect if/when you “officially” begin homeschooling. And see if there is a local homeschooling group or co-op in your area, as well. One of the BEST resources you can have as a new homeschooler is a group of other homeschooling families who are willing to share their stories, recommendations, resources, and experiences with you!

Another great resource is your local library. I’ve often been surprised at what is available there–besides tons of great books and DVDs on just about every possible subject, there are also group meet-ups, weekly or monthly classes, activities and events for kids, and sometimes even subscriptions (online or offline) that library-card-holders can use for free!

Someone mentioned Science, so I wanted to point out that there are options for homeschoolers for Science, too. Most experiments at the grade-school level can easily be done at home; it’s generally only the more advanced high school science that requires more “specialized” and/or expensive equipment and supplies–and if your student doesn’t have a strong interest in Science, you may not need all that much to cover the basics. Some homeschool supply companies offer kits for some things, such as dissection and chemistry kits. There’s also the option of co-op classes if you have those in your area; some homeschool groups are even allowed to use public- or private-school labs or other resources. And another option, especially for children who are especially interested in the more advanced topics, is to attend college classes while still in high school (sometimes even for college credit) or vo-tech classes. I’ve even heard that in some school districts, homeschooled students can attend just one or two specific classes at the public high school, rather than being enrolled as a full-time student.

And the OP hasn’t even started yet, so who knows what will come? Nothing says we MUST homeschool through a certain age or year or grade level! I’ve known parents who homeschooled all the way from the beginning through high school and even through some online college courses; I’ve known parents who homeschooled for as little as one semester for a specific (temporary) reason; and I’ve known many, many families that fall somewhere in between the two.

OP, if you have specific questions about my experiences with homeschooling, feel free to PM me (if you don’t want to just post them here). It may take me a couple of days to respond, but I’ll do my best to give you an answer. 👍
 
DanielJT;12575111…I have my four-year-old and a two-year-old and one on the way. [/QUOTE said:
At your children’s ages, don’t worry about if you should homeschool through high school or not. Take it one year at a time, whatever you decide to do regarding your school choices. Pray about it with your wife. If she’s not on board with homeschooling, it will be much harder to homeschool.

My husband is a graduate of public schools. He’s a convert who’s now a faithful Catholic, (but that wasn’t always the case.) I’m a graduate of private and parochial Catholic schools (who wandered from the faith and eventually came back.) We homeschool our children, so far through 8th grade and then have sent them to a Catholic high school. We contemplate homeschooling high school–but not at age four.

Not everyone who homeschools continues to do it for their children’s entire educational career, just as not everyone who enrolls in private or public schools continues to use the same schools until they graduate.

There are pros and cons to all forms of education.
 
Let me second the recommendation for Bauer’s books, though with the caveat that some of her mid-elementary-level (think 3rd grade or thereabouts) history texts are pretty anti-Catholic. However, her basic ideas about education in the classical ideal are very good indeed.

Mary Pride was a big name in some of the more problematic homeschooling groups I described–very into the ideas that a woman must be subservient to her husband and father, must not work out of the home, and that child spacing of any kind, even via NFP, is sinful. (I think she thought that NFP was ok to use as a sort of transition from ABC but that’s its only acceptable use–I could be wrong there.) I’m not sure how she is from an educational perspective, but I find her general philosophy troubling at best.

What you mention about the psychology of the classroom is something I find interesting–going to need to consider that a bit more. If you have time, I’d love to see some links about it. 🙂 I’ve had a hard time finding a more balanced approach to the idea of homeschooling.
Thanks for the (name removed by moderator)ut.

I have heard that about Bauer and will definitely keep it in mind. I think that the best approach to study history is to mix and match materials.

Mary Pride: I definitely don’t subscribe to her ideas about subservient wives and NFP. But it could be useful to read about home education from different aspects, even when we don’t agree with them.

I will be away from my laptop for a few weeks so can’t look into the psychology links. I think that Anthony Esolen touches about the subject in his writings (which are numerous). I haven’t done an in depth study of it myself, but what I have read about it makes a lot of sense and confirms my experience of school.
 
Thank you for this response!

You say that it works for you, but not everyone feels that way. Do you mind expanding on that a bit? I ask because my daughter, our eldest, is looking to be a bit of a social butterfly. She loves going to her classes at our Parish and shows no fear on the playground making friends. I am worried that homeschooling might stifle her. But also worried that her wanting to conform to a classroom of others might stifle her naturally joyful personality. Do you have any thoughts on your experience as regards to this aspect?

I love that you mention you and your siblings becoming closer through it. Another reason I have been considering it.
I believe homeschooling could work for everyone, but it doesn’t due to a lack of self motivation. Both the parent and child have to be willing to work hard to make it work. Some people, for whatever reason, cannot do that, and that is why it doesn’t work for them. Also, going to a regular school might work better for your family financially, and it might be the only option. I think homeschooling is a major blessing for little kids. They get the love and structure of their parents being their teacher, but they also have field trips, and none of the drama that school brings. My little sisters, 8 and 6 are both extremely social. They can make friends with anyone, and have no fear of meeting new people. Since my Mom and I teach CCD, they attend the program for fun (we do Catholic homeschooling so they don’t actually have to attend) and friends, as well as dance, and music classes.

The school I attended for 10 years of my life was a good school in the beginning. But over the past 5-6 years, it has turned into a machine, generating little card-board cutouts of children. The kids’ imaginations are run dry and they must sit in a sit in a classroom where they are no more than a number. They stare at worksheets all day, and have to listen as their teacher disciplines their classmates. NOT all schools are like that, but the one I attended was. I love that my little sibs weren’t affected by that. My Mom can teach them math with pretzels and cheerios, and science class consists of them sprouting beans in our kitchen. My sisters have endless knowledge of birds from studying the ones that land at our bird feeders all day. They are endlessly creative in ways I can’t even imagine.

This is our third year homeschooling now, and we are still working out some of the kinks. No system is perfect. A recent addition is that once a month all of us must deliver an oral report on a certain subject!! :eek:

The cool part about homeschooling is that the sky is the limit in terms of how YOU want to teach your kids! 👍

If you have any more questions, don’t hesitate to ask!
 
I would only offer this advice:

Find a local homeschool co-op and ask if you can visit for a day or two. Watch the children interact with each other, children from other age groups and the parents/teachers. Then, immediately go to another setting where non-homeschooled children are present and observe. Watch how the children interact with each other, with children of different ages, and with parents/teachers.

In my experience, there is a night/day difference. I won’t tell you what the difference is or which one I prefer but I think you will quickly see pros/cons of the two approaches.
 
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