Homilies and Contraception

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I have been wondering for a while now why priests do not speak of contraception at all in their homilies…ever. I suppose this thread could be about many questions really. Should a priest speak of contraception to his flock? Why does he not? I read that somewhere that only between 8 and 17% of Sunday mass attending Catholics believe contraception to be morally wrong. Maybe this is part of the reason why Priests don’t speak up?? I think of asking my Priest questions on this topic but always hesitate. Do priests need to speak on contraception? (These figures might be incorrect. But the 9% quotation came from a Pew Research Polll. I will provide the link in a subsequent post if not in this OP. ) Should we encourage them to do so or not? Why do they hold back? Is it a pastoral concern that stops them?? (It goes without saying, but I will say it now anyways, that the Catholic Church does teach unequivocally that artificial contraception is a sin. As far as I know, artificial contraception would be considered grave matter.)
 
I have been wondering for a while now why priests do not speak of contraception at all in their homilies…ever. I suppose this thread could be about many questions really. Should a priest speak of contraception to his flock? Why does he not? I read that somewhere that only between 8 and 17% of Sunday mass attending Catholics believe contraception to be morally wrong. Maybe this is part of the reason why Priests don’t speak up?? I think of asking my Priest questions on this topic but always hesitate. Do priests need to speak on contraception? (These figures might be incorrect. But the 9% quotation came from a Pew Research Polll. I will provide the link in a subsequent most if not in this OP. ) Should we encourage them to do so or not? Why do they hold back? Is it a pastoral concern that stops them?? (It goes without saying, but I will say it now anyways, that the Catholic Church does teach unequivocally that artificial contraception is a sin. As far as I know, artificial contraception would be considered grave matter.)
I’m sure some do.

I will say I have noticed a distinct shift in the past couple of years with the homilies given by our priests. They are much more willing to mention sins, including sexual sins (in a non-graphic way, of course, but it’s clear to the adults what they mean.) I don’t recall hearing contraception mentioned specifically in a homily, but I have heard priests discuss it in other contexts (RCIA, for instance.)

I wouldn’t presume to know why they do or do not. Typically, I tend to hear the homily I need to hear that week. I don’t know if that’s true for the rest of the people in the pews.
 
I think it is sad that fear of driving away the congregation and especially the young seems to mute the Church on a range of moral issues and especially this one. Hopefully the tide has turned.
 
I have been wondering for a while now why priests do not speak of contraception at all in their homilies…ever. I suppose this thread could be about many questions really.
My priest does.

The question might be why doesn’t your pastor talk in homilies about it-- and the person to ask that question to is your pastor.

Let me add, the homily should reflect the readings of the day. The homily is not typically the right place to discuss contraception. Catechesis comes in many forms. The homily is one small part of that. The primary teachers of young people are their parents, particularly on the subject of sexuality. Many people expect the church to fill a role that is not theirs to fill. Teaching regarding contraception starts with the formation of children.
 
I read that somewhere that only between 8 and 17% of Sunday mass attending Catholics believe contraception to be morally wrong. Maybe this is part of the reason why Priests don’t speak up??
I think that may be backwards.

Maybe those that do not believe it to be wrong have never heard priests speak up about it.
So, if they did not hear it at home for whatever reason, they may never hear it, if not in church.

Btw, I have heard it mentioned in homilies. Not often, not for the entire homily, but been included.
 
The few times I have heard it, I thanked the priests afterward. They appreciated it, as they said they received naysaying from many parishioners, mostly older folks, baby boomers; to their credit, the method available at the time was the rhythm method. Thankfully there have been many medical advances since then and there are now multiple scientifically proven methods.
 
Having worked in parishes for years, I can tell you that when priests talk about such things, parents become UNGLUED.

They storm out, they cover their children’s ears, and claim that the priest was doing a disservice to families.

I’m totally serious.

It may not be happening where you are, but I’ve seen it firsthand. Same with discussing armed forces. We had a pastor that was not exactly pro military. The entire Knights of Columbus membership, the many airline pilots present, and the veterans all stormed out after one memorable homily about the use of force by the military.
It happens. 😊
Best to stick to the readings. Unless you want an empty church. American Catholics are not like they were years ago. They don’t just say “yes Father” to everything. Often they are combative, very opinionated, and quite vocal about what the priests do and say. We see it here on CAF all the time. Parishes are not much different. Pastors are kind of at the mercy of their flock in some ways. Sounds crazy, but it’s true.
 
The few times I have heard it, I thanked the priests afterward. They appreciated it, as they said they received naysaying from many parishioners, mostly older folks, baby boomers; to their credit, the method available at the time was the rhythm method. Thankfully there have been many medical advances since then and there are now multiple scientifically proven methods.
I would have thought Baby Boomers were well out of their child-bearing, or even fertile, years.
 
I have been wondering for a while now why priests do not speak of contraception at all in their homilies…ever. I suppose this thread could be about many questions really. Should a priest speak of contraception to his flock? Why does he not? I read that somewhere that only between 8 and 17% of Sunday mass attending Catholics believe contraception to be morally wrong. Maybe this is part of the reason why Priests don’t speak up?? I think of asking my Priest questions on this topic but always hesitate. Do priests need to speak on contraception? (These figures might be incorrect. But the 9% quotation came from a Pew Research Polll. I will provide the link in a subsequent post if not in this OP. ) Should we encourage them to do so or not? Why do they hold back? Is it a pastoral concern that stops them?? (It goes without saying, but I will say it now anyways, that the Catholic Church does teach unequivocally that artificial contraception is a sin. As far as I know, artificial contraception would be considered grave matter.)
We lived in Indiana for two years, the priest there was amazing and the parish identified as a pro life pro family parish. He spoke often on marriage and contraception.
In roughly 20 years as a Catholic in the intermountain and northwest I’ve NEVER heard it at Mass and in more than one confession I was told to use ABC.

Here’s the thing, I wish they would speak on it more, however, there are several practical reasons they don’t.
1). There are kids at Mass. a ten minute homily on artificial birth control can make for some uncomfortable car rides home.
2. It must be dang hard, to call out your flock in something you know they are emotional about.
3. It’s money. I’ve spoken to several priests who have stated they won’t talk about it because the collection will suffer.
4. Also money, and a much more cynical reason… the more kids a parish has the lighter the collection tends to be. Families struggle, especially in our modern western culture. Expendable income is hard to come by and that affects the bottom line of everything, yes, even a parish. Plus more kids means more resources the parish will be providing.
Our parish in Indiana was vibrant, packed, reverent, orthodox, and growing. It was also the poorest parish we have ever seen. Struggling for basic things. No AC etc. but school was available to every child if they couldn’t afford it, they didn’t have to pay, the parish was amazing, but poor. And yes some of that (maybe most of that) had to do with the economics of that area of the country.
Our current parish floods money, but Mass is very very spacious.

As a youth minister we hit ABC hard with the teens. Knowing that this would probably be the only teaching they would ever hear about it. This lead to unhappy parents who felt judged because thier kids were being taught something thevparents were doing was wrong.
It was a nightmare.

I wish more priests around here would 1. Recognize ABC is wrong, and 2, preach about it to thier flock.

Fathers never want to have the etc talk with kids, but we do because we need to for thier lives and futures and souls. It should be no different for the “father” if our spiritual lives.
 
Having worked in parishes for years, I can tell you that when priests talk about such things, parents become UNGLUED.

They storm out, they cover their children’s ears, and claim that the priest was doing a disservice to families.

I’m totally serious.

It may not be happening where you are, but I’ve seen it firsthand. Same with discussing armed forces. We had a pastor that was not exactly pro military. The entire Knights of Columbus membership, the many airline pilots present, and the veterans all stormed out after one memorable homily about the use of force by the military.
It happens. 😊
Best to stick to the readings. Unless you want an empty church. American Catholics are not like they were years ago. They don’t just say “yes Father” to everything. Often they are combative, very opinionated, and quite vocal about what the priests do and say. We see it here on CAF all the time. Parishes are not much different. Pastors are kind of at the mercy of their flock in some ways. Sounds crazy, but it’s true.
Bingo!! That’s exactly my experience.
 
I would have thought Baby Boomers were well out of their child-bearing, or even fertile, years.
Their feelings and experiences run deep. They were told to use the rhythm method and when it failed for them or others they turned to contraception. Now they associate methods of natural family planning with the rhythm method and automatically say they don’t work.
 
Just to provide one reference as to numbers:

americamagazine.org/content/dispatches/us-catholics-hold-mixed-views-religious-liberty-issues

Just 8 percent said contraception is morally wrong, with 89 percent saying it was either morally acceptable or not a moral issue at all…
The Catholic Church teaches that artificial contraception, such as condoms and birth control pills, is morally unacceptable.

This teaching is rejected even among Catholics who attend Mass at least weekly, who tend to hold views on other social issues that fall more in line with official teaching when compared to the wider Catholic population. About one in 10 (13 percent) in this group said contraception is morally wrong, with 87 percent saying it is either acceptable or not a moral issue.

 
Having worked in parishes for years, I can tell you that when priests talk about such things, parents become UNGLUED.

They storm out, they cover their children’s ears, and claim that the priest was doing a disservice to families.

I’m totally serious.

It may not be happening where you are, but I’ve seen it firsthand. Same with discussing armed forces. We had a pastor that was not exactly pro military. The entire Knights of Columbus membership, the many airline pilots present, and the veterans all stormed out after one memorable homily about the use of force by the military.
It happens. 😊
Best to stick to the readings. Unless you want an empty church. American Catholics are not like they were years ago. They don’t just say “yes Father” to everything. Often they are combative, very opinionated, and quite vocal about what the priests do and say. We see it here on CAF all the time. Parishes are not much different. Pastors are kind of at the mercy of their flock in some ways. Sounds crazy, but it’s true.
it’s too bad many people come to church only wanting to hear they things they already agree with.

we should tel the truth on catholic teaching always. I suffered a lot in previous years because I was never taught many things I should have been, thankfully God doen’st give up on us.

but many young people are suffering and it is a disservice to them to pretend that certain sins are not sins. deep down, we all know when things feel wrong. we can’t ignore our consciences forever.

I have heard certain priest preach on the subject, so it depends. and other means are used as well. youth group, lifeteen, catechesis sessions, marriage prep, etC…
 
I have been wondering for a while now why priests do not speak of contraception at all in their homilies…ever. I suppose this thread could be about many questions really. Should a priest speak of contraception to his flock? Why does he not? I read that somewhere that only between 8 and 17% of Sunday mass attending Catholics believe contraception to be morally wrong. Maybe this is part of the reason why Priests don’t speak up?? I think of asking my Priest questions on this topic but always hesitate. Do priests need to speak on contraception? (These figures might be incorrect. But the 9% quotation came from a Pew Research Polll. I will provide the link in a subsequent post if not in this OP. ) Should we encourage them to do so or not? Why do they hold back? Is it a pastoral concern that stops them?? (It goes without saying, but I will say it now anyways, that the Catholic Church does teach unequivocally that artificial contraception is a sin. As far as I know, artificial contraception would be considered grave matter.)
Our priest talks about it. He is a wonderful, faithful priest. He would make a great Bishop!
 
it’s too bad many people come to church only wanting to hear they things they already agree with.

we should tel the truth on catholic teaching always. I suffered a lot in previous years because I was never taught many things I should have been, thankfully God doen’st give up on us.

but many young people are suffering and it is a disservice to them to pretend that certain sins are not sins. deep down, we all know when things feel wrong. we can’t ignore our consciences forever.

I have heard certain priest preach on the subject, so it depends. and other means are used as well. youth group, lifeteen, catechesis sessions, marriage prep, etC…
My pastor recently said catching flak means you are over the right target. He generally doesn’t spend 10 minutes exclusively on ABC but he does touch on it when talking about sin.

Does he get berated? You betcha. But as he said, his job is to get souls to heaven. Come judgement, Christ won’t ask him how many friends he made or how much his collections were. He will ask how many souls he won for Him and you can’t win souls by leaving your sheep to wander in the dark among the wolves.
 
My pastor recently said catching flak means you are over the right target. He generally doesn’t spend 10 minutes exclusively on ABC but he does touch on it when talking about sin.

Does he get berated? You betcha. But as he said, his job is to get souls to heaven. Come judgement, Christ won’t ask him how many friends he made or how much his collections were. He will ask how many souls he won for Him and you can’t win souls by leaving your sheep to wander in the dark among the wolves.
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Having worked in parishes for years, I can tell you that when priests talk about such things, parents become UNGLUED.

They storm out, they cover their children’s ears, and claim that the priest was doing a disservice to families.

I’m totally serious.

It may not be happening where you are, but I’ve seen it firsthand. Same with discussing armed forces. We had a pastor that was not exactly pro military. The entire Knights of Columbus membership, the many airline pilots present, and the veterans all stormed out after one memorable homily about the use of force by the military.
It happens. 😊
Best to stick to the readings. Unless you want an empty church. American Catholics are not like they were years ago. They don’t just say “yes Father” to everything. Often they are combative, very opinionated, and quite vocal about what the priests do and say. We see it here on CAF all the time. Parishes are not much different. Pastors are kind of at the mercy of their flock in some ways. Sounds crazy, but it’s true.
Liturgically I know priests should stick to the readings. But there are a couple of problems with that round here…
  1. They don’t stick to the readings. Number of homilies on refugees or internet stories I hear in a year is a lot.
  2. It’s a subject people need to be guided and educated about. Outside of the homilies many just won’t hear it.
 
My priest does.

The question might be why doesn’t your pastor talk in homilies about it-- and the person to ask that question to is your pastor.

Let me add, the homily should reflect the readings of the day. The homily is not typically the right place to discuss contraception. Catechesis comes in many forms. The homily is one small part of that. The primary teachers of young people are their parents, particularly on the subject of sexuality. Many people expect the church to fill a role that is not theirs to fill. Teaching regarding contraception starts with the formation of children.
Most of the parents use artificial contraception, so they won’t tell their children not to. This is a sin that most people don’t agree with the Church’s teaching ( for many decades ) and I think local parishes are leaving it up to the person’s conscience, on whether it’s a sin or not.
 
If God judges us according to how we follow the rules of the Catholic Church…there are going to be a lot of people in hell …mainly because of this contraception issue!
 
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