Homilies, The Good, The Bad & The Ugly

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Faithful 2 Rome:
On a scale of 1 - 10, I can safely and honestly state that I have NEVER (except on EWTN) been at a Mass (in person) where the homliy ranked higher than a “5”… I ranked one homily as a “1”…where the renegade priest stated that if Rainbow Sash wanted Comunion, he was gonna give it…and that Mohammed ascended to Heaven as well… if he wanted to wear a Kerry button its his business…I ranked another (recent) as a 2…where the founder of Mc Donalds was compared to Jesus as having a dream and a mission… the others I have sat thru have never been higher than a 5…(
Wow I must be blessed I have never seen anything like these.
 
My parish tends to have OK to good homilies, but my pastor knows how to make homilies and write Pastor’s Column in the bulletin.

Parish: St. Daniel the Prophet, Chicago, IL.

I’ve been to hundreds of parishes, and I like the EWTN homilies - I listen to them every day. I’ve got a short list of parishes where I look forward to going to mass, and my local one (thank God!) is one of them.
 
I am currently visiting in Venezuela. I don’t understand Spanish well but from what I understood (and what my husband translated later), this week was a good one. He preached against the evil of abortion, about personal prayer and acts of charity and about the need to act rather than waiting for the government to give you everything you need (personal responsibility). People laughed at his jokes too.

BTW we get two homilies at each Sunday Mass at this church. One after the Gospel and the second just before the final blessing. The bulletin always includes a few sections of the CCC and the second homily seems to be mostly about this. Amazingly, almost everyone stays through this second homily even though the church is packed with about 50 people standing throughout in the back and along the sides.
 
As a volunteer at the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception I have seen lots of priests, Bishops, and Cardinals giving homilies. Everyone has different styles, some can be boring in content, some can be boring by voice. Some can give great homilies but since their tone is boring, people get bored. Others can be hard to understand because of the accent.

Depending on how many Masses a priest says, priests usually have to give homilies almost every day. Not all of the homilies are going to be stellar/substantial.

I have learned things from boring homilies and I have heard priests that are excellent speakers give out bad information.

For the most part, all the priests I see do their best. The way I see it the homily is preparing you for the sacrifice later in the Mass.

Even though some have been giving Cardinal McCarrick a hard time for his role in the giving communion to pro-life politicians issue, I can tell you he is an excellent homilist. I enjoy EVERY homily I hear him preach.
 
bquinnan:
Yet another time he talked about the death penalty and how, if he was pro-life, he couldn’t pick and choose which lives he favored. He didn’t quite say, “The death penalty is just as bad as abortion” (which would contradict Church teaching) but again, he seemed to imply it.
You are lucky that he at least attempted to stay within Church teaching. We had a visiting priest once (we only have one priest so when he is on vacation, we are at the mercy of the diocisan pool). In his homily he said that you cannot call yourself pro life unless you would be willing to take the prisoners off of death row and invite them to live in your home. Since we just got a Respect Life Committee going in our parish, this really hurt. 😦
 
One priest’s homily was comparing the storyline of “Pinocchio” to the Gospel reading and took a moment before the dismissal to say that his another Disney movie he liked was “Bambi.” And this wasn’t even a children’s liturgy.

Oh…and the woman who was reading had a pink baseball cap on the whole time. Maybe she was wearing the cap as a head covering…or the most likely reason was she forgot she had it on…

This was a Friday night mass, but still…
 
This was a Friday night mass btw…and maybe the woman was wearing the cap as a head covering…or the most likely reason was she forgot she had it on…but still…
 
I FINALLY heard a great homily today! (it only took an entire year and three different Parishes 😦 )

The new parish I joined has a new weekend priest…today was his first day and he grand slammed it to ALL!

He touched base on:

NO EXCUSE to (ALWAYS) come to Mass late and leave early…

NO EXCUSE not to pray at least a few minutes each day…your kids soccer games, your sporting events, tee times…are NOT more important than PRAYER!

He even read a poem about a person just being too busy to pray daily…he could never find the time…and then when he died and went before Christ, Jesus started flipping thru the Book of Life and said, I just cant seem to find your name here…I guess I didnt have the TIME to write it down! YEEEEEAHHHHH!!!

and then he actually said Politicans against Pro life and Catholics who dont vote what their religion teaches, are gonna have no one other than GOD to answer to when they die!

I actually got choked up…

After Mass, I shook his hand, thanked him for a great homily and congratulated him on having the Courage to speak about the pro life issue and politicians…he said…“you know we GOT TO”! 👍
 
Faithful 2 Rome:
I FINALLY heard a great homily today! (it only took an entire year and three different Parishes 😦 )

The new parish I joined has a new weekend priest…today was his first day and he grand slammed it to ALL!

He touched base on:

NO EXCUSE to (ALWAYS) come to Mass late and leave early…

NO EXCUSE not to pray at least a few minutes each day…your kids soccer games, your sporting events, tee times…are NOT more important than PRAYER!

He even read a poem about a person just being too busy to pray daily…he could never find the time…and then when he died and went before Christ, Jesus started flipping thru the Book of Life and said, I just cant seem to find your name here…I guess I didnt have the TIME to write it down! YEEEEEAHHHHH!!!

and then he actually said Politicans against Pro life and Catholics who dont vote what their religion teaches, are gonna have no one other than GOD to answer to when they die!

I actually got choked up…

After Mass, I shook his hand, thanked him for a great homily and congratulated him on having the Courage to speak about the pro life issue and politicians…he said…“you know we GOT TO”! 👍
 
Thanks for the great news “faithful 2 Rome”. You are very fortunate and blessed to have such a priest. Could you ask if he had a prepared version of his homily that you could share with us?

I asked one of our priests who gives great homilies if I could have a hard copy. No one had ever asked him. I told him that my wife and I would discuss what he had spoken about and his written word would help us. Finally after a couple of months he started giving me his copy. It was great. I was able to understand so much more after reading and re-reading the homily.

Its too bad that the homilies are not printed in the Sunday bulletin.

God Bless
 
He didnt look down at ANY notes or read from anything…it was ALL “off the cuff” and spontaneous…Holy Spirit speaking right thru him!

The Parish is St Symphorosa and today is her feast day…he used her and her seven childrens martydoms as an example of how Catholics should react when others whether thru politicians, etc are trying to get us to go contrary to what our faith teaches!
 
I said five stars which is unusual for my home parish. Last weeks homily was said by a young seminarian and was unafraid and true. Has anyone else noticed that the young seminarians and priests today seem to have more fervor for truth and greater Catholic wisdom than the middle aged and older priests and religious do?
 
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Fortiterinre:
I agree with Bill and Cognovimus–I call this phenomenon “Phairesy”–skirting the edges of heterodoxy while phairisaically trumpeting how sophisticated and suave the homilist must be to have this cutting edge point of view.
👍 You have just put your finger on the motivation behind much of this stuff. (I would add the use of the word “take” with Holy Communion.) It is not only unfortunate for the parishioners subjected to it, but makes the perpetrators look silly, juvenile (regardless of age), and poorly educated, exactly what they least wish. Serves them right! 🙂

Pray always,

Anna
 
This week we were treated to not a homily, but “reflections” given at the time of the homily (our Bishop would argue that the deacon’s introduction of her was the “required homily”) Any way, what ever it was, was given by a divorced woman, the director of Catholic Charities, who struggled to say “Mary has chosen the better way”…we need to spend time with “Jesus”, she says, but then goes on to explain that at Catholic charities they see Jesus in the poor and they spend time with Him there. No, they don’t just give away other people’s money and goods, they actually spend time with Jesus in the poor. And by the way, if you gave us more of your money we could spend more time with Jesus. Or maybe you would like a relationship with Jesus and you could be one of our wonderful volunteers. Yes, sometimes we have to turn people away because they don’t meet the states requirements for “poor”, but we smile at them anyway, because we know that they are really Jesus.

I am not kidding.

Desparate in the Peoples Republic of the Diocese of Rochester.
 
This week we were treated to not a homily, but “reflections” given at the time of the homily (our Bishop would argue that the deacon’s introduction of her was the “required homily”) Any way, what ever it was, was given by a divorced woman, the director of Catholic Charities, who struggled to say “Mary has chosen the better way”…we need to spend time with “Jesus”, she says, but then goes on to explain that at Catholic charities they see Jesus in the poor and they spend time with Him there. No, they don’t just give away other people’s money and goods, they actually spend time with Jesus in the poor. And by the way, if you gave us more of your money we could spend more time with Jesus. Or maybe you would like a relationship with Jesus and you could be one of our wonderful volunteers. Yes, sometimes we have to turn people away because they don’t meet the states requirements for “poor”, but we smile at them anyway, because we know that they are really Jesus.

I am not kidding.

Desparate in the Peoples Republic of the Diocese of Rochester.
 
My priest is a holy, orthodox, and hard working man. He never speaks in error in his homilies - but as an orator, he is not very good…
This is what you see in the pews…----> :yawn: :sleep: :yawn: :sleep:
 
The problem with homilies are they have to meet your requirements not Jesus’s requirements.
 
In my home parish, our pastor gives homilies that I think are average to to very good. He’s an older man, in his 70’s, and most of the time you can feel the effort he puts into the message he is trying to get across to us.

We recently lost our Parochial Vicar to a tiny parish out in the boonies, I hope they realize the treasure they are getting; (he is newly ordained, just a little over a year ago) full of passion for the Word, and gave GREAT teaching homilies, even at the 6:30 daily Mass.

We have another priest whose ministry is to the homebound and the local hospitals. In charity, all I can say is that some people can speak in front of groups, and some cannot. He is, however, a wonderful priest, warm, loving, a wonderful listener, and a great confessor. I guess his gift is to be able to speak to us one on one.

Having said all that, I voted 3 stars.

(As I have said before in these forums, I travel for my job, and I have heard homilies that span the spectrum from truly great, to, well, truly not.)
 
I heard a great homily today. The priest gave a fantastic reflection on the idea of giving, starting from the Gospel, proceeding through the epistle and the lesson from Ecclesiastes, and working her way through an article in the New Yorker about the man who gave away a kidney to a stranger and some hardcore philosophical thinking about our obligations to others. We were all pretty uncomfortable, because we all realized that none of us gives enough of ourselves.

Of course, this was at an Episcopal church. The local Catholic priest gives terrible sermons and tells jokes from the pulpit (the “yuk of the week” he calls it).

Naprous
 
I couldn’t hear today’s homily because we were in the basement due to the heat and the fans were making too much noise. Normally, I say my Rosary while the pastor is speaking because most of his homilies are related to the “priest abuse scandal”.:mad: A few of the worst offenders were personal friends of his (no, he is not like them at all), they are his classmates. We have had to hear about how they were wrongly accused quite a few times…
he is in his 70’s…:confused: He just doen’t get it!!!:banghead:
Many have left the parish because of this. After all is daid and done, It is just a matter of time before he retires and our parish will be merging with another.😦
 
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