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Jim_Baur
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Do many of the Church Fathers teach that the Holy Bible uses homonyms?
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ChadS
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I can’t speak specifically about the early Church Fathers, but I have seen in various footnotes in my Bible that some of the words in the original Greek or Hebrew that occasionally are written either next to or close to each other sound alike, so that the original readers would see a word play in the scriptures that is lost to us in our translations.
Seeing that many of the early Church Fathers were scholars they probably had at least something to say about homonyms.
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Seeing that many of the early Church Fathers were scholars they probably had at least something to say about homonyms.
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diggerdomer
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Why do you ask? Just curious. I don’t know ancient Hebrew or koine Greek, but it seems like an answer to your question would require a knowledge of those languages.Do many of the Church Fathers teach that the Holy Bible uses homonyms?
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Jim_Baur
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Yes, knowledge of those languages are needed to help answer the questions.
I read in Origen that the Bible does use homonyms.
His examples would be like this: Jesus said: “those that SEE me SEE the FATHER.” This SEEING could not be with physical eyes otherwise the Romans that crucified Jesus would have seen the Father.
In other words, the interior man has eyes to see and the exterior body has eyes. The word eye is used for interior vision and exterior sight.
Another example is when Jesus says: “My FOOD is to do the will of my Father.”
There is food for the soul and food for the body.
I hope that I am clear.
I read in Origen that the Bible does use homonyms.
His examples would be like this: Jesus said: “those that SEE me SEE the FATHER.” This SEEING could not be with physical eyes otherwise the Romans that crucified Jesus would have seen the Father.
In other words, the interior man has eyes to see and the exterior body has eyes. The word eye is used for interior vision and exterior sight.
Another example is when Jesus says: “My FOOD is to do the will of my Father.”
There is food for the soul and food for the body.
I hope that I am clear.
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diggerdomer
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Oh, isnt’ that use of metaphor? I thought homonyms are words that are spelled and pronounced the same but have different meanings e.g. left (not right) and left (past tense of leave).Yes, knowledge of those languages are needed to help answer the questions.
I read in Origen that the Bible does use homonyms.
His examples would be like this: Jesus said: “those that SEE me SEE the FATHER.” This SEEING could not be with physical eyes otherwise the Romans that crucified Jesus would have seen the Father.
In other words, the interior man has eyes to see and the exterior body has eyes. The word eye is used for interior vision and exterior sight.
Another example is when Jesus says: “My FOOD is to do the will of my Father.”
There is food for the soul and food for the body.
I hope that I am clear.
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ChadS
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I thought a homonym was a word that sounded like another word but spelled differently, with different meanings. For example: see and sea, or there and their, two and to and too.Oh, isnt’ that use of metaphor? I thought homonyms are words that are spelled and pronounced the same but have different meanings e.g. left (not right) and left (past tense of leave).
A quick rule to know a metaphor is usually the word “like” is somewhere to be found, for example “her eyes were like blue pools of water.”
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diggerdomer
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Homophones sound the same as one another but are spelled differently.I thought a homonym was a word that sounded like another word but spelled differently, with different meanings. For example: see and sea, or there and their, two and to and too.
A quick rule to know a metaphor is usually the word “like” is somewhere to be found, for example “her eyes were like blue pools of water.”
ChadS
“Simile” involves the use of “like” or “as”, metaphors don’t.
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ChadS
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Ok, who would’ve thought not paying attention in high school would matter?Homophones sound the same as one another but are spelled differently.
“Simile” involves the use of “like” or “as”, metaphors don’t.
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Jim_Baur
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Origen uses the word in his Song of Songs. One can find it, Song of Songs, in Ancient Christian Writers. It is volume 26.
Here is the actual quote (pp. 25-26): The thing we want to demonstrate about these things is that the Divine Scriptures make use of homonyms; that is to say, they use identical terms for describing different things. And they even go so far as to call the members of the outer man by the same names as the parts and dispositions of the inner man; and not only the same term employed, but the things themselves are compared to one another.
N. B. the bold face is to bring attention, it is not yelling
Here is the actual quote (pp. 25-26): The thing we want to demonstrate about these things is that the Divine Scriptures make use of homonyms; that is to say, they use identical terms for describing different things. And they even go so far as to call the members of the outer man by the same names as the parts and dispositions of the inner man; and not only the same term employed, but the things themselves are compared to one another.
N. B. the bold face is to bring attention, it is not yelling
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from dictionary on the web
a word the same as another in sound and spelling but different in meaning, as chase “to pursue” and chase “to ornament metal.”
a word the same as another in sound and spelling but different in meaning, as chase “to pursue” and chase “to ornament metal.”
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