My bold added. To me, that means homosexual sex, not living together…
There is no problem whatsoever with two people of the same sex lving together. A lot of us did that when we in school.
If they’re not engaging in sexual relations I suppose it’s possible that they could live together in a positive way but realistically, I think it’s putting both of them in a near occasion of sin but like I said it’s still possible I guess.
That’s like saying “Why would God make a baby have only one arm?” or “Why would God make a couple think they love each other, but then later find out they don’t and get divorced?”
The idea that homosexual relationships are intrinsically
In which case “Friendship” would be the appropriate word.
Please do not blithely make statements that are not fact as if they were scientific fact. The causes for Homosexual orientation are unknown and could be a combination of factors, could be much more mutable than popular opinion suggests.
Clearly, how we conduct ourselves has a bearing on how we see ourselves which has a bearing on how we conduct ourselves. You wish to relegate an existential part of humans, their sexuality, to some sort of Darwinian predestionation–they’re born that way. I don’t think the evidence supports that conclusion solelyeither scientifically or scripturally.
Natural Law is a Moral Code.
All of the sacraments were instituted by Jesus, prior to His assumption into heaven. Jesus taught that marriage is between one man, and one woman, and this is God’s intention.
questions on the rest of the sacraments may need to go to a new thread. The 'how to" is left up to the Church. That is what the Keys to the Kingdom and the authority to bind and loose represent.
You may have been baptized Catholic, but you apparently were not formed in the Catholic faith. Catholics who are properly taught their faith understand that we are not Sola Scriputura (bible only). This is a rather modern heresey that has emerged.
If you are making yourself the final judge of what is fine, and setting aside the Teaching of Christ, then you are certainly not Catholic.
You certainly came to the right place if you are genuinely wanting to learn the source behind the church’s beliefs. If you stick around, all your questions will be answered. None of the Church’s beliefs are “man made”. The Divine Deposit of faith is all revealed to us from God. All of the teachings of God are important.
That may be, but there are also a number of cradle Catholics that are poorly catechized.
I think the OP was thinking that it would be socially just to allow homosexual marriage.
Do you mean to say that civil union between two same sex persons would create the social justice that marriage does?
The bible was written and preserved by the Church. It is not meant to be separated from the Apostolic tradition from which it was taken. There are some clear directions from that Apostolic Tradition that are clear about the meaning. There are some passages that are not mentioned. Of course one approaches with an open mind, but we must recognize at the outset that the Church already knows what the authors were trying to say, to a large extent, and we must be informed by that knowledge as we read it.
You did not include the comment you are responding to in your post, so I am not sure what “they say that” is about. You are right, just because someone has a conviction about something, does not make it true.
The Church teaches that homosexuality is a “grave disorder” of the natural function. Church does not say it is "wrong’ to be this way, only to act out on it. I agree with you that it is appalling that anyone would choose to be homosexual, and I agree with you that homosexuals can and do live together in loving relationship. The Church teaches that such persons should remain celibate.
Yes.
Sexuality is not “dirty”, it is created by God. Misuse of the sexual give brings condemnation upon persons and “dirties” the soul. Even a heterosexual couple intending to marry are urged not to put themeselves in near occasion of sin (sex before marriage) by living together. It is placing oneself in the way of temptation to live with another toward whom one is sexually attracted.
Nothing. Monks do it everyday, and have for centuries. I also think that tax and other benefits should not be dependent upon marriage. I would love to get my adult brother on my plan.
The Pope was the only one to publish that it was wrong to enslave people according to their race, and this happened in 1500 and something, long before America was created. But that is an issue for another thread too. You are going to be very busy!
It cannot be assumed that “God gave” them the inclination. Secondly, we are ALL told to love each other. The biblical definition of agape love does not include sex.
Well, if there are biological determinants in same sex attraction, which it is being discovered there are, who did give them this inclination? God is in charge of nature is he not? I believe God gives some this inclination to see how they will handle it. I am still opposed to homosexual activity but I will not call the inclination disordered.
Horse hockey. this understanding existed long before any moderns science.
This is more horse hockey. By this logic, you have to agree that the attraction of a man for little girls (pre-pubescent) is based in the braind structure, and is only disordered of it is consciously created.
Loving others is never wrong. Having sexual contact outside the sacramental marriage is wrong. The Church does teach that we are to help our homosexual brothers and sisters make better lives for themselves. The Church believes that the first step in that process if making Jesus the Lord of one’s life.
http://http://www.vatican.va/holy_f...jp-ii_enc_06081993_veritatis-splendor_en.html
More likely, God ALLOWED it to happen and offers them the Grace to overcome it.
It is a Disorder. It is a Moral Disorder.
There are biological determinants in violent behavior, alcholoism and drug addicition. Are those not disordered behaviors?
They minimally reduce the culpability of the behaviour.