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Gay marriage? There is no such thing.
God calls homosexuality a perversion. Rom.1:18-28, Lev.18:22
The Lord destroyed an entire city because of this sin.

The USA is fast becoming a heathen nation. They have condoned abortion which is now called ‘pro-choice’ Translation, ‘killing the unborn’
People have voted in a liberal minded president to make sure homosexual marriage will be legal and the killing of the unborn as well.
Did you vote for him? I don’t think any person claiming to be a christian should vote for such a person.

Lets pray about this,
jean
And I’m sure Romans 2:1 just totally slipped from your mind, eh?

And on Sodom and Gomorrah, where does it say their issue was with homosexuality? The two angels that went to Lot’s were androgynous, as all angels are. To rape(or consentingly have sex with for that matter) an angel is neither a homosexual or heterosexual act as Angels are neither male nor female.

And as far as the rape aspect, Lot was just as guilty as the rest of the town. They wanted to rape strangers, and Lot wanted them to rape his daughters instead. (I am assuming the daughters would object, making Lot as guilty in the rape as the people who commit the act.)
 
HONESTLY, I THINK HOMOSEXUALS HAVE THE RIGHT TO B HAPPY, AS LONG AS THEY ARENT BOTHERING ME, IM FINE WITH IT. THEY SHOULD GET TO HAVE A BIG HAPPY WEDDING! A CEREMONY TO CELEBRATE THER LOVE TOWARDS ONE ANOTHER!
IF THAT MAKES THEM HAPPY, I SEE NO HARM IN SAME SEX MARRIAGE.😃

P.S my friend is gay, and his partner r the cutest! 🙂 he is happy, im happy.
 
So, unfortunately, according to the Church you claim membership in, your view is flat out wrong! .
like you said, “VIEW”, a person view can NEVER be wrong.:mad:
because it is an OPINION, not a fact.
 
GET OVER MYSELF?? Do you have children? Try to answer their questions when they want to know how a man could be having a baby. you dare me to come back in a year and show you how my life was altered because of gay marriage? how about a “man” having a baby? Doesn’t get anymore mixed up than that, expecially to a child trying to understand.
I’ll admit that may not be the easiest thing to explain, but that’s regarding transgendered individuals and not homosexual marriage. In fact, as I recall, that transman was married to a woman, which is in fact a heterosexual marriage.
 
…So by the same logic, laws against inter-racial marriage were fine because blacks and whites had the same rights? I could marry others of my own race, and they could marry others of their own race. We had the same rights. And those silly race mixers just wanted special rights! Right?

And no one, at least no one I know of, is asking you to view this as a perfectly moral religious ceremony. People want the ability to be united by the same legal threads that heterosexual couples enjoy.
I guess your logic is cheered Hades. So, I’m not buying what you’re selling here. Here in the real world, in the Kingdom of God, the logic you are trying to promote does not make sense.

The fatal flaw is among those who do not have a properly formed conscience. To divide on the base of race is not moral. God made us all, black, white, brown, yellow, red, etc. There can be no moral distinction between us on that. It is not a behavior.

On the other hand, God quite clearly comes down against sodomy. Homosexuality is a behavior, and is an immoral behavior. Homosexuality is gravely immoral and perverse.

You can’t legitimately choose to be born black or white or brown, etc. You can choose whether or not to behave in a homosexual manner. Anyone who conflicts with this is trying to sell you something unholy.
 
like you said, “VIEW”, a person view can NEVER be wrong.:mad:
because it is an OPINION, not a fact.
If your opinion is opposed to God, opposed to the Truth, then your opinion is wrong. You don’t legitimately make your own morality, deciding what is right and what is wrong. Our first parents got in trouble for this kind of thing. This is God’s province, and He decides for all of us.
 
HONESTLY, I THINK HOMOSEXUALS HAVE THE RIGHT TO B HAPPY, AS LONG AS THEY ARENT BOTHERING ME, IM FINE WITH IT. THEY SHOULD GET TO HAVE A BIG HAPPY WEDDING! A CEREMONY TO CELEBRATE THER LOVE TOWARDS ONE ANOTHER!
IF THAT MAKES THEM HAPPY, I SEE NO HARM IN SAME SEX MARRIAGE.😃

P.S my friend is gay, and his partner r the cutest! 🙂 he is happy, im happy.
This is the sad kind of product we see of a malformed conscience. It happens too often.

Wait to see how “happy” you and they are on judgement day. It may not go as well as you hope.
 
And I’m sure Romans 2:1 just totally slipped from your mind, eh?

And on Sodom and Gomorrah, where does it say their issue was with homosexuality? The two angels that went to Lot’s were androgynous, as all angels are. To rape(or consentingly have sex with for that matter) an angel is neither a homosexual or heterosexual act as Angels are neither male nor female.

And as far as the rape aspect, Lot was just as guilty as the rest of the town. They wanted to rape strangers, and Lot wanted them to rape his daughters instead. (I am assuming the daughters would object, making Lot as guilty in the rape as the people who commit the act.)
AJ,
I’m not passing judgement on anyone. I was telling you what the Bible tells us about sin. One of which is homosexuality.
For more information on sin, read Lev.18
Your right when you say we are not to judge others.
See Mt.7:1-5 Heb.10:26

God bless you as you search for the truth in his word,
jean
 
This is the sad kind of product we see of a malformed conscience. It happens too often.

Wait to see how “happy” you and they are on judgement day. It may not go as well as you hope.
yes , God wants everyone to be happy. but he also wants us to be holy. We all know this isn’t an easy road.
The older we get the more we realize walking according to the precepts of the Lord is Difficult, and we must strive for holiness everyday. How are you doing? 🙂

May the Lord be with us each day and bless us all,

jean
 
And I’m sure Romans 2:1 just totally slipped from your mind, eh?

And on Sodom and Gomorrah, where does it say their issue was with homosexuality? The two angels that went to Lot’s were androgynous, as all angels are. To rape(or consentingly have sex with for that matter) an angel is neither a homosexual or heterosexual act as Angels are neither male nor female.

And as far as the rape aspect, Lot was just as guilty as the rest of the town. They wanted to rape strangers, and Lot wanted them to rape his daughters instead. (I am assuming the daughters would object, making Lot as guilty in the rape as the people who commit the act.)
Judging?
I’m quoting scripture. God will be the judge of us all. Not me. 🙂

God bless,
jean
 
Same sex marriage just became legal in my state today. I’ve been reading newspaper forums on the subject and am amazed at how angry supporters of gay marriage are. There is an amazing hatred for ANY Christian value, belief or point of view. How can one follow Christ’s command to love thy neighbor when we are facing such hatred? I am having a very hard time dealing with this. I personally feel that the gay right activists, along with abortion supporters, stem cell advocates, etc., blame us Christians for oppressing them and going to war against them and their beliefs, but I see that we are the ones being oppressed. They took our right to pray in school, they fight against any religious public display, they even want to remove the word God from our money. Does anyone have any ideas to help keep from getting angry at what I see is our nation experiencing the total falling away from morality and living a God-less life?
The Promised Land had been promised to the Jews by God, it was a land that was at one point a great Kingdom under King David. Yet, during Jesus’ time, the Romans had conquered the Promised Land and hired Jewish people to serve as taxcollectors, collecting Roman taxes from their own Jewish brethern. These taxcollectors, like the homosexuals of our society, were widely despised by their Jewish society as being among the worst of the worst… yet Jesus was cool with the taxcollectors, even made one of them one of the 12 (Matthew/Levi). On the other hand, Jesus was angry at the holier-than-thou crowd of the Pharisees. Also, Jesus didn’t get angry that the Promised Land was occupied by Romans, and he didn’t do anything to try to lead a politican revolution against the Roman occupiers to free the Promised Land. Also, Jesus didn’t get angry that the traditional Torah law wasn’t being followed strictly, in fact, Jesus and his disciples broke several of the traditional Torah laws of his society, which the Pharisees hated. That’s why we as Christians don’t follow the strict laws of the Torah, much less expect our society to have such laws.

As for same-sex marriage laws and other government laws that you see as destroying our society, it can’t be any worse than the Romans occupying the Promise Land and the Jews that weren’t strictly following all the traditional Torah laws of their society. And if Jesus didn’t get angry about that, why should you? Jesus taught us to be merciful, loving, etc… not full of hatred, anger, bitterness, etc.

Jesus didn’t call for a society of laws that made us act religious, he didn’t care about that. Instead, Jesus called for us as individuals to purify our hearts and be holy. Don’t worry about society’s laws, worry about yourself, your own holiness. Like Jesus said in the Sermon on the Mount: “I tell you, unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees (those that were primarily concerned about the religious laws of their society), you will not enter into the kingdom of heaven.” In other words, the last thing you should be worried about is society and it’s laws, and the last thing you should be worried about is looking down on you neighbor for doing stuff you don’t like… what you should be worried about is yourself, your call to holiness.

As for how you talk about how angry supporters of gay marriage are, how are you so different from them? Both the angry supporters of gay marriage and the angry opposition of gay marriage are in the same boat… they are both angry people focusing on laws instead of purifying themselves in holiness.

As for how you talk about how “the gay right activists, along with abortion supporters, stem cell advocates, etc., blame us Christians for oppressing them and going to war against them and their beliefs,” how are you so different from them? Both of you are just as guilty as playing the angry blame-game against each other, just like the Pharisees Jesus was so angry with.

As for freedom of religion… no religion in government schools, government parks, government currency… that is a good thing. Even the Church agrees with this. The governments on this planet should not be getting involved with promoting a set religious belief system. If the Christian countries like the USA allow government schools, government parks, government currency, etc to promote Christianity, that what is wrong with Muslims countries, Buddhist countries, Hindu countries, Atheist countries, etc doing the same thing to their citizens with their government schools, government parks, government currency, etc? Look at China. The governments on this planet should stay neutral when it comes to religious beliefs… government schools, government parks, government currency, etc. should be neutral when it comes to religious beliefs. Instead, every government should allow their citizens complete religious freedom.

In short, instead of worrying about the problems you see with society, worry about learning more about Christ, who is the way, the truth, and the life, worry about learning about your call to holiness.
 
yes , God wants everyone to be happy. but he also wants us to be holy. We all know this isn’t an easy road.
The older we get the more we realize walking according to the precepts of the Lord is Difficult, and we must strive for holiness everyday. How are you doing? 🙂

May the Lord be with us each day and bless us all,

jean
Jean,

Thanks for asking. How am I doing in regard to following God, seeking to walk with Him? Well, I subscribe to all the teachings of God’s one Church, without exception. I defer to the authority God established to teach without error. I believe in Sacred Tradition and the proper interpretations of Scripture, having faith in Jesus, being lovingly committed to Him and seeking to obey Him. I partake in all the Sacraments of God’s one Church that I am able, with the wonderful and incomparable Eucharist in which the merits of Christ’s passion and death on the Cross are applied to our lives in our time. I receive the Eucharist from a validly ordained priest, so believing that Christ keeps His promise to us that this is His Body and Blood, I am assured that the priest has valid orders to consecrate. If I slip up, I partake in the Sacrament of Reconciliation, and resolve to amend my ways.

So, if you’re trying to ask if I consider myself perfect, and therefore can make the comment I did, two things must be said. First, I am under no illusion of being perfect, as this is God’s character alone. Do I need to be perfect to make the statement I made? No, it is not required in the least, otherwise, who could talk but God. I said that God will be the judge, and those who reject Him may not find things so easy on that day… and afterward. This is a true statement.

What is the difference? I seek to follow God with all my heart, believing in Him and trusting in all the tools of salvation, which subsist in no other place than His one Church. Am I guaranteed salvation? No, but if I persevere, working out my salvation with fear and trembling, then I have a reasonable assurance. To the contrary, if anyone opposes God, and goes against His Church, I can’t imagine that this is pleasing to God. If I who seek to follow God and His one Church have no guarantee of salvation, then how much less one who goes against God and His Church.

PS. I don’t think you really understood my post to begin with. The message in my post was to seek to be holy, and not reject God in favor of what makes you “happy” in going against His teachings, else you may not really be as happy as you claim.
 
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