Homosexual-Serenaded Bishop calls for new Ecumenical, Gay-Friendly "Vatican Council"

[Caveman]

On the heels of essentially calling for a “Vatican III” council that would not only include heretics and pagans as active participants, it would also re-examine Catholicisms view of Sodomy.

It’s interesting to note that his call was the precursor to the retired bishop of Sacramento, California, Francis Quinn being serenaded by the Sacramento Gay Men’s Chorus at a gala honoring him.

In reference to a recent interview with the publication Inside East Sacramento, “Pointing to the dramatic changes made within the Catholic Church by Vatican II, Quinn asserts that it is time for a new council, this one dedicated to looking at human sexuality and its intersection with religion.” The notoriously liberal bishop went on to say, “The new council, he says, should involve the entire Catholic community as well as people of other faiths.”

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[the_7th_one]

On the heels of essentially calling for a “Vatican III” council that would not only include heretics and pagans as active participants, it would also re-examine Catholicisms view of Sodomy.

It’s interesting to note that his call was the precursor to the retired bishop of Sacramento, California, Francis Quinn being serenaded by the Sacramento Gay Men’s Chorus at a gala honoring him.

In reference to a recent interview with the publication Inside East Sacramento, “Pointing to the dramatic changes made within the Catholic Church by Vatican II, Quinn asserts that it is time for a new council, this one dedicated to looking at human sexuality and its intersection with religion.” The notoriously liberal bishop went on to say, “The new council, he says, should involve the entire Catholic community as well as people of other faiths.”

Click here for the rest of the article.

Good thing he is retired or we’d have to listen to a mess about him being removed. How did he ever get Ordained as a Bishop?

 

[NEWCATHOLICJEFF]

Very sad…

 

[Caveman]

Good thing he is retired or we’d have to listen to a mess about him being removed. How did he ever get Ordained as a Bishop?

Actually, his attitude was quite the norm in the 70’s and 80’s here in America and W. Europe.

Thank God for Pope Benedict.

When The Holy Father speaks of the “filth, rot and pollution” that has infected Holy Mother the Church, we don’t have to look very far or dig very deep to see exactly what he’s talking about.

 

[PadraigPearce]

Why were all these men ordained as bishops in the first place? I guess JP2 was relying on his advisors to a large extent, but it’s not like it was just one or two bad bishops. He appointed scores of them. Was JP2 afraid of causing a schism if he started appointing really orthodox bishops?

 

[tee_eff_em]

Why were all these men ordained as bishops in the first place? I guess JP2 was relying on his advisors to a large extent, but it’s not like it was just one or two bad bishops. He appointed scores of them. Was JP2 afraid of causing a schism if he started appointing really orthodox bishops?

I think Fr Z makes some interesting observations to this matter in this recent blog post.

:twocents:
tee

 

[Monica4316]

wow… I’m sure this would never actually happen…

right?

There were always heretical bishops, even in the early Church, but it’s still sad to see how unorthodox this bishop is.

I’m glad the Pope isn’t liberal!

 

[Caveman]

wow… I’m sure this would never actually happen…

right?

There were always heretical bishops, even in the early Church, but it’s still sad to see how unorthodox this bishop is.

I’m glad the Pope isn’t liberal!

Yes, and the Early Church knew exactly how to deal with heretics and apostates.

 

[Tigg]

I think Fr Z makes some interesting observations to this matter in this recent blog post.

:twocents:
tee

Very good read…thnx! But one has to wonder if this potential schism should have been averted. I’m serious when I say this. Look what has happened to the Church in light of Humanae Vitae. (I know, I keep harping on this, but it’s the very best example to show how close to revolt the bishops were.) After 40+ years now, we are still feeling the effects of this in terms of priests not defending the faith regarding marriage and contraception. AND the error continues. Seems to me we have a de facto schism anyway. IF the schism would have openly happened, would we have been able to avert some of the damage done to the moral credibility of Rome? For certain, the numbers of the faithful of the True, obedient Church would have been smaller, as recently alluded to (and predicted by Benedict as it might still happen,) but nonetheless purer. If you cannot uphold authentic Church teaching, then by all means, split and start your own church. Of course, that would not be Satan’s plan at all because it is the TRUTH and holiness of the institution that Christ Himself established that must be ground into the dirt and discredited.

 

[wisdomseeker]

Very good read…thnx! But one has to wonder if this potential schism should have been averted. I’m serious when I say this. Look what has happened to the Church in light of Humanae Vitae. (I know, I keep harping on this, but it’s the very best example to show how close to revolt the bishops were.) After 40+ years now, we are still feeling the effects of this in terms of priests not defending the faith regarding marriage and contraception. AND the error continues. Seems to me we have a de facto schism anyway. IF the schism would have openly happened, would we have been able to avert some of the damage done to the moral credibility of Rome? For certain, the numbers of the faithful of the True, obedient Church would have been smaller, as recently alluded to (and predicted by Benedict as it might still happen,) but nonetheless purer. If you cannot uphold authentic Church teaching, then by all means, split and start your own church. Of course, that would not be Satan’s plan at all because it is the TRUTH and holiness of the institution that Christ Himself established that must be ground into the dirt and discredited.

Or they would have gone into schism, but later come to repentance and had returned to the Church like so many others. but since they were allowed to stay and spread their errors, it is much difficult now for them to recount and accept the Truth.

because of that decision to let them stay with their errors, the CC is suffering deeply and it is now being shamed by the world.

 

[cyb]

It’s unnerving to reflect on how many bishops and priests, despite their state in life, are actually not Catholic.

I don’t believe a Vatican III would ever come about, but floating that idea out there (with his proposed changes) is scary.

 

[StevieD]

Our Lady of Akita said, “The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, and bishops against other bishops. The priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their Confreres. The Church and altars will be vandalized. The Church will be full of those who accept compromises …”
Hold on folks, we are in for a ‘bumpy ride’.

 

[mark_a]

Do you have a reliable source for:

Our Lady of Akita

Thanks in advance!

 

[OriginalJS]

Very good read…thnx! But one has to wonder if this potential schism should have been averted. I’m serious when I say this. Look what has happened to the Church in light of Humanae Vitae. (I know, I keep harping on this, but it’s the very best example to show how close to revolt the bishops were.) After 40+ years now, we are still feeling the effects of this in terms of priests not defending the faith regarding marriage and contraception. AND the error continues. Seems to me we have a de facto schism anyway. IF the schism would have openly happened, would we have been able to avert some of the damage done to the moral credibility of Rome? For certain, the numbers of the faithful of the True, obedient Church would have been smaller, as recently alluded to (and predicted by Benedict as it might still happen,) but nonetheless purer. If you cannot uphold authentic Church teaching, then by all means, split and start your own church. Of course, that would not be Satan’s plan at all because it is the TRUTH and holiness of the institution that Christ Himself established that must be ground into the dirt and discredited.

Is it possible that the timing and presentation of Humanae Vitae was flawed? The response to it was negative and the direct opposite of what was intended and, I suppose, anticipated. Paul VI was stunned by the rejection. Was there a misjudgment? I wonder.

 

[vera_dicere]

Thank God for Pope Benedict.

Thank the Lord God most High indeed!

Prayers for a long life and papacy of Pope Benedict!

 

[Another_Mary]

Do you have a reliable source for:

Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieD
Our Lady of Akita

I am not the one who posted the quote but I was curious and went in search. Here’s one source:

ewtn.com/library/mary/akita.htm

Here’s video (in Japanese with subtitles):

youtube.com/watch?v=prs_fgCBfRU

 

[archangel04]

Our Lady of Akita said, "The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals,We see this especially in Europre! and bishops against other bishops Again just look at Europe and the US. The priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their Confreres. The Church and altars will be vandalizedI feel this already happen with the removal of the rails, statues, and above all the tabernacle. The Church will be full of those who accept compromises …"And boy is she full of them right now
Hold on folks, we are in for a ‘bumpy ride’.

 

[choy]

i agree with having a Church council to address homosexuality and other modern issues

aren’t councils in the past called to address heresy? its time to make modern clarifications on why homosexuality, divorce, abortion, etc. are sins. maybe a council would shoot down any misconceptions that homosexuality, divorce, abortion, etc. will ever be accepted in the Church

 

[jdnation]

Our Lady of Fatima also had a lot to say about what was going to happen to the Church and tried to warn us. The Church shares the blame for failing to take heed. They never made the entire third secret public. And never consecrated Russia in the manner specified, instead rejecting divine guidance in favor of man-lead solutions such as Vatican II. Paul VI shouldn’t have been surprised, the Church was warned that something diabolical is at hand and it requires old time faith in divine providence and not solutions following trends of modernity. Now the errors of communism and Satanism have spread and thrive everywhere. Pope Benedict XVI knows this and this is why he has said many of the things he has. But fear not, in the end the Immaculate Heart of Mary will triumph and the Church will recover and the real fruits and truths of Vatican II will be known without any of these anti-Christ followers hijacking the council and perverting it.

We don’t need a council to explain that homosexuality is wrong. The Bible already clearly states it, and the Church should be in the business of defending the Bible as inerrant, divinely inspired and real history instead of leaving that job to the Protestants.

 

[LilyM]

Yes, and the Early Church knew exactly how to deal with heretics and apostates.

The Early Church’s ‘dealings’ did nothing to stop a huge proportion of both Bishops and faithful defecting to Arianism back in the day - and by doing so causing no end of problems for the comparatively few who remained faithful and orthodox in their beliefs.

‘There is nothing new under the sun …’.