Homosexuality and Psychology

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The American Psychological Association and I believe the Australian Psychological Association affirm that homosexuality is not a disorder. However the Church believes it is. Is there any kind of official documentation to their belief based on other psychological findings?

Because it is really hard to prove otherwise to someone who is not religious when the APA believes that homosexuality is ‘normal’ furthermore the APA says it’s ok for children to be brought up in a homosexual adoption because their studies prove that it is not adverse and etc.

How does one argue these claims with other official and credible sources?

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The APA is not really “official” except it is an professional association, not a government agency. To some people psychology is a ‘science’ not based on solid science research.🤷 Just look at what Carl Jungconsidered serious science, if you want to understand what I am saying.:rolleyes:

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Dr. A. Dean Byrd, NARTH’s President-
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Elect, provided evidence in an English court last month in
support of a judge who was required to make judicial
determinations incompatible with his philosophical beliefs
about the nature of the family.
Dr. Byrd’s testimony provided scientific evidence for judge
Andrew McClintock’s belief that mothers and fathers are
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Judge McClintock had asked to be excused from those cases which might require himto place children in permanent motherless or fatherless homes, deeming that such placements are not in the best interest of children.
His legal counsel argued that Mr. McClintock was justified in excusing himself because “… a judicial office holder is entitled to take the view that such social experimentation * is not in the best interests of the child” and because “such a departure from social norms requires cogent evidence.” Further, his lawyers argued that “There is a rational basis for the religious and the philosophical belief; in short…the belief is verifiable.” More

NARTH, founded in 1992, is composed of psychiatrists, psychologists, certified social workers, professional and pastoral counselors and other behavioral scientists, as well as laymen from a wide variety of backgrounds such as law, religion, and education.
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The American Psychological Association and I believe the Australian Psychological Association affirm that homosexuality is not a disorder. However the Church believes it is. Is there any kind of official documentation to their belief based on other psychological findings?
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The Church does not base it’s definition of “disorder” on psychology. In the context of Catholic teaching, disorder refers to the spiritual nature of having inclinations that are not in order with God’s plan for mankind. The Church has never made assertions about the psychological nature of homosexuality. When she speaks on this issue, it is in relation to morality, spirituality and the natural order.
How does one argue these claims with other official and credible sources?
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While it may be hard to believe, there is alot of good material available to support the concept (held by all until the last 30 years) that homosexuality is abnormal. Even many Catholic and Christian websites will provide arguments that are based, not on religion, but on science, biology, history, statistics, etc. In fact, if you do a search here on CAF you will find many links to sites that provide such information.

Unfortunately, if you are debating with someone who has bought the lie fiercely promoted by the gay lobby and it’s supporters, your “proofs” will usually be maligned. Look at the recent example of President Bush’s nominee for Attorney General. The fact that he wrote a paper 20 years ago detailing (with no bias) the damaging physical effects of homosexual sex had him branded as a “homophobe” by the activists.

My approach? Assess the mind-set of the person you are talking with on this issue. If you know them to be closed minded and unable to discuss it without resorting to name calling, it’s probably best to “shake the dust from your sandals” and include them in your daily prayers.
 
Haven’t we already answered a post of this nature quite recently? The APA does not “affirm” anything about homosexuality…rather…it sought it’s removal from the Diagnostic Manual as a disorder (note…one of the doctors involved in pushing this issue has since reversed his opinion). That aside, yes, as has been correctly pointed out, when the Church says homosexuality is disordered it’s not speaking along psychological lines, rather, it’s saying that it follows outside the natural order which God created (a man shall cleave to his wife and the two become one flesh).
 
Yet another repetitive thread on the same old topic. Methinks we worry too much about this.
 
I worry about it because men and women who desire treatment are having it withheld by insurance companies and other agencies base on the designation that by itself same sex attraction is not a disorder.
 
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Yet another repetitive thread on the same old topic. Methinks we worry too much about this.
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I came here to ask for sources because I was debating with someone regarding this issue on another forum.

Me thinks when homosexual acts are rampant and people promote it, it’s justified to be worrying about it too much :cool:
 
goofyjim said:
Yet another repetitive thread on the same old topic. Methinks we worry too much about this.
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“The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”
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Queen Gertrude speaks these famous words to her son, Prince Hamlet, while watching a play at court. Gertrude does not realize that Hamlet has staged this play to trap her and her new husband, King Claudius, whom Hamlet suspects of having murdered his father. She also does not realize that the lady who “doth protest too much” is actually herself, as the Player King and Queen represent King Hamlet and Queen Gertrude. The former will be poisoned (in this play within the play) by the king’s brother, as in reality (Hamlet suspects) Claudius killed King Hamlet. Gertrude’s statement is in response to the play-Queen’s repetitive statements of loyalty to and love of her first husband.
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:rolleyes:
 
Same sex attraction is not a mental disorder and need not be cured.
 
goofyjim said:
Same sex attraction is not a mental disorder and need not be cured.
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Same sex attraction is not normal and it needs to be overcome thorugh self mastery. You have been a spendid example of not acting on it.
 
buffalo said:
Same sex attraction is not normal and it needs to be overcome thorugh self mastery. You have been a spendid example of not acting on it.
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Same sex attraction is not an impediment to salvation therefore need not be cured. It may never be overcome. To think that you can overcome it is okay for some. I don’t really care if it is normal or not. It is the way I am.
 
I will live the rest of my life with same sex attraction. I master self by not acting on it but I don’t even attempt to overcome the attraction itself. It is not a mental disorder. I don’t get treatment for it and will never do so. If the Church were to require such I would have to disobey.
 
goofyjim said:
I will live the rest of my life with same sex attraction. I master self by not acting on it but I don’t even attempt to overcome the attraction itself. It is not a mental disorder. I don’t get treatment for it and will never do so. If the Church were to require such I would have to disobey.
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That’s pretty good control dude, it must be so hard.
 
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