Homosexuality is learned.

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Yes, I believe that porn and masturbation can cause a person to become homosexual and sexually promiscuous. I had the same experiences that you describe.
Sexually promiscuous, perhaps. But homosexual? If one is watching gay porn, there is usually some sexual interest or attraction to begin with, don’t you think? Otherwise, most teenagers who watch porn would prefer straight porn. Or do you believe straight porn leads to homosexual attraction as well?
 
Nah… Impossible say the experts. :banghead:
What experts? Probably those in psychology who cater to social norms. Much of psychology is a sham. I know, I’m a retired research psychologist who worked with ‘experts’ who draw their conclusions before their study!!! They get very upset and will fire the statistician who comes up with finding counter to their hypotheses.
 
Sexually promiscuous, perhaps. But homosexual? If one is watching gay porn, there is usually some sexual interest or attraction to begin with, don’t you think? Otherwise, most teenagers who watch porn would prefer straight porn. Or do you believe straight porn leads to homosexual attraction as well?
This is one of the things I kind of wonder about. When I was younger, before I knew that pornography was evil, what I viewed the most was of a certain fetishistic nature. I looked at a lot that was both heterosexual and homosexual in nature…but it more often ended up homosexual since there was more available that catered to that. I don’t know if that led to increased desire of that type.

But then again, I don’t know if I found more because there was just more, or if I just thought there was more because I was already attracted to it. It’s very confusing.
 
I’d agree. It is very clearly much easier to be a heterosexual person in this world for all sorts of reasons, not least of which is not having to put up with a load of opprobrium for the simple fact of having same-sex desires over which there is no effective control for most.
and if there were a pill to cure a desire for alcohol? stealing? murdering? etc…?
 
I believe when a person truely invites Jesus into there hearts and know Jesus as there person Lord and Savior and that goes for people with homosexual tendensey he will remove what is causing them to act this way and that goes for all sins .and I also believe with the right help if they want it that they will get to the root of there problem and what is causing them to act this way…
 
This is one of the things I kind of wonder about. When I was younger, before I knew that pornography was evil, what I viewed the most was of a certain fetishistic nature. I looked at a lot that was both heterosexual and homosexual in nature…but it more often ended up homosexual since there was more available that catered to that. I don’t know if that led to increased desire of that type.

But then again, I don’t know if I found more because there was just more, or if I just thought there was more because I was already attracted to it. It’s very confusing.
I would say it is more probable that you were already attracted to it. But NOT due to Satan!
 
I would say it is more probable that you were already attracted to it. But NOT due to Satan!
I always thought Satan took a more hands-off approach. It seems like humans spread enough evil on their own.
 
What experts? Probably those in psychology who cater to social norms. Much of psychology is a sham. I know, I’m a retired research psychologist who worked with ‘experts’ who draw their conclusions before their study!!! They get very upset and will fire the statistician who comes up with finding counter to their hypotheses.
Yup, those types… The homosexual agenda amazes me as to its effectiveness in hoodwinking so many. And in such a short time.
 
Sexually promiscuous, perhaps. But homosexual? If one is watching gay porn, there is usually some sexual interest or attraction to begin with, don’t you think? Otherwise, most teenagers who watch porn would prefer straight porn. Or do you believe straight porn leads to homosexual attraction as well?
You may want to re-read my OP. From very personal experiences, straight porn can lead to homosexuality. In straight porn straight viewers are exposed to at least one person the same gender as the viewer. The sexual actions actions of the same-sex porn actor are coupled with one’s sexual arousal! Think about this rationally, and I think things will sink in.
 
I always thought Satan took a more hands-off approach. It seems like humans spread enough evil on their own.
No - Satan is very active. He is most successful when he propagates evil using 99% truth. His biggest success though is convincing everyone he does not exist. Pretty clever.
 
You may want to re-read my OP. From very personal experiences, straight porn can lead to homosexuality. In straight porn a straight viewers are exposed to at least one person the same gender as the viewer. The sexual actions actions of the same-sex porn actor are coupled with one’s sexual arousal! Think about this rationally, and I think things will sink in.
I remember some research about this very thing.
 
You may want to re-read my OP. From very personal experiences, straight porn can lead to homosexuality. In straight porn straight viewers are exposed to at least one person the same gender as the viewer. The sexual actions actions of the same-sex porn actor are coupled with one’s sexual arousal! Think about this rationally, and I think things will sink in.
However, for SOME viewers, straight porn must also lead to heterosexual promiscuity, no? Otherwise, this sounds a little like Alice in Wonderland.
 
You may want to re-read my OP. From very personal experiences, straight porn can lead to homosexuality. In straight porn straight viewers are exposed to at least one person the same gender as the viewer. The sexual actions actions of the same-sex porn actor are coupled with one’s sexual arousal! Think about this rationally, and I think things will sink in.
Then, if your proposal is correct, the rational extension of that is to show heterosexual porn to homosexuals and see if that turns them at least bisexual.

So far as I know, that’s never worked.

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And… given the vast amount of heterosexual pornography that is produced and the numbers of people partaking of it to the extent that they consider themselves addicted, surely that should result in them all becoming homosexual (or bisexual) as a result? I can’t say I’ve ever heard of that happening before now… and if it was such an obvious causal factor, it would have been common knowledge and used in a lot of arguments before.

As ever, there may be some truth in it in some cases, but human sexuality is far too complex to be able to pin this down as a significant factor. Your subjective experience may be true for you (or, indeed, you may have genuinely misunderstood the factors at play and blamed porn for something which it wasn’t actually responsible for - and this is probably not possible for anyone to know) but one subjective experience doesn’t make for an objective fact.
 
As a psychologist and someone deep in theology, I believe homosexuality is learned. I believe that Satan seduces certain children from and early age with temptations involving the same gender. As the child grows older, they intuitively feel as if they were born homosexuals, but the real culprit is Satan.

The same is true with heterosexuals who become hyper-sexualized from an early age with sexual promiscuity. It’s all the work of Satan and the desires lay deep within them…
Interestingly the Church doesn’t talk about this idea whereas the idea that it could be biological in origin has been discussed for over a half century.
 
Then, if your proposal is correct, the rational extension of that is to show heterosexual porn to homosexuals and see if that turns them at least bisexual.

So far as I know, that’s never worked.
The old aversion therapy, based on Pavlovian conditioning, which was used to change homosexuals to heterosexuals, was to show them gay porn while injecting them with a nausea-eliciting drug. What happened to many was that they lost their same-sex attraction but did not become heterosexual. Instead, they became asexual. The treatment was eventually discontinued.
 
Interestingly the Church doesn’t talk about this idea whereas the idea that it could be biological in origin has been discussed for over a half century.
The Church does not know the Genesis of homosexual inclinations. She only pronounces them disordered.
 
Satan never sleeps, and is especially at work in good and virtuous households with parents who do all the ‘right things.’
I pray that if you are a clinical psychologist that you are not practicing for the sake of gullible patients that might be on the verge of suicide. Enough said…:mad:
 
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