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Hi,

I really didn’t know where to put this…and I kind of want the opinion of someone who is a little bit more religious than I am and a little less biased towards one direction. I am a 19 year old female and I have a girlfriend. I consider myself bisexual because I have had boyfriends and have had feelings for them.

I just read up a bit on why sex is for heterosexual couples and I have to disagree. God created humans to go both ways. A male will feel pleasure in his prostate if there is pressure against it. Also…why is the main center for sexual pleasure on a woman…on the outside where another female can easily stimulate it with already given anatomy? I am just wondering…if God didn’t really want this to happen…why would he create humans with the ability to please the same sex?
 
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I just read up a bit on why sex is for heterosexual couples and I have to disagree. God created humans to go both ways. A male will feel pleasure in his prostate if there is pressure against it. Also…why is the main center for sexual pleasure on a woman…on the outside where another female can easily stimulate it with already given anatomy? I am just wondering…if God didn’t really want this to happen…why would he create humans with the ability to please the same sex?
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Why are you conflating giving pleasure with morally correct? Hedonism is a very shallow philosophy.

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– Mark L. Chance.
 
Most if not all sins are pleasurable or we would not partake in them or be tempted by the devil to partake in them. So does it mean that because it is pleasurable it is ok to do it?
 
The reason God gave us the blessing of sex was so that we could procreate. The pleasure is secondary with the purpose of bonding the married couple in their relationship. Homosexual acts are sinful because they go against God’s laws.
 
dp5284 said:
Hi,

I really didn’t know where to put this…and I kind of want the opinion of someone who is a little bit more religious than I am and a little less biased towards one direction. I am a 19 year old female and I have a girlfriend. I consider myself bisexual because I have had boyfriends and have had feelings for them.

I just read up a bit on why sex is for heterosexual couples and I have to disagree. God created humans to go both ways. A male will feel pleasure in his prostate if there is pressure against it. Also…why is the main center for sexual pleasure on a woman…on the outside where another female can easily stimulate it with already given anatomy? I am just wondering…if God didn’t really want this to happen…why would he create humans with the ability to please the same sex?
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Welcome to the Forums! I will try to answer your questions using arguments that may sway you instead of theology that you probably don’t believe anyway.
I used to work in an adult novelty store before becoming Catholic and am well versed in all sorts of “alternative” philosophies regarding sex.
The male can experience pleasure from prostate stimulation, but his PRIMARY source of sexual pleasure comes from penile stimulation. Furthermore, most of my homosexual male friends had stories of emergency room visits because sodomy is damaging to the sphincter. We had one customer lose control of his bowels at the checkout counter one night. If God had meant for men to be stimulated in this way, why would he have put the prostate behind the delicate organ that is the sphincter?
With regards to women, a man can stimulate a woman’s clitoris as easily as another woman. There is nothing about female anatomy that indicates lesbian love is more “natural”. Furthermore, the fact that we have a huge hole that a penis fits perfectly into indicates that heterosexual love is far more natural.
I can also use the scientific argument that procreation is necessary for a species to survive. If you want to look at Darwin’s theories, a species where homosexual inclinations fluorished would soon die out. What’s good about that?
So you can see that anatomically, man and woman are made to fit together and scientifically, it makes no sense for homosexual acts to be the norm.
Hope this will set you on the path to Truth!
 
Homosexuality doesn’t fit under the norm and I completely understand that aspect of it. Yes, man and woman are interlocking puzzle pieces. It also boils down to the simple human need to reproduce.

There are parts in the bible that reference love as not knowing a specific gender. Also, where does the scientific logic explain transgenders?

I don’t find my ways sinful, I am actually very happy in my relationship. My relationship with my girlfriend isn’t simply based on pleasure…yes sex is fun but I would do anything for her. If that leads me to hell…so be it. At least I know that I followed my heart and I don’t see anything wrong with that.

Species wise. Some animals are homosexuals but that doesn’t mean the entire population is. The species will still go on. (yes humans are animals. We are no different.) If reproduction is such a major factor and if I do end up making a life long commitment with my girlfriend we will either adopt or one of us will be inseminated.

I refuse to believe a church that hides information and is built by such a pitiful species as ours. I will probably get banned and this post will probably be deleted. My parents first put me in a catholic school and then they decided they want me to figure out this world on my own. I know that I am a good person. I would give the shirt off my back to a neighbor who is cold.

I am Pro-choice. I like masturbating but it doesn’t consume my life. I don’t compare my lover to the models on the porn that I watch when I have nothing else to do (I get turned on when I see an idea that I like but…I don’t really get off to it).

May the baby you save be Gay, and you know the song Jesus loves the little children. Well…Jesus also loves the little homos.

Peace, Love, and Happiness to you all.
 
dp5284 said:
I refuse to believe a church that hides information and is built by such a pitiful species as ours.
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What information, exactly has the church hid?

And you know, historically speaking, the church was built by Christ himself.
 
Please take Catholic off your profile then. Oh and why did you even come here asking about this topic if you are going to bait us? Give me a break.:mad:
 
As we all know by now I used to live the homosexual life. Thanks be to God for pulling me out of it and showing me the true path. That being said, I know, as a man, how homosexuality destroys one’s God-given masculinty (or how it destroys a person’s femininity) and how leads to engaging in all sorts of disorders and disordered behavior. That being said, I KNOW ITS UN-NATURAL and I know that God has bigger and better plans for all of us!!! It saddens me to see the spiritual blindness of those who try and support homosexuality and treat it as if it is normal when it is not in anyway so. Its like children playing house together. Its so unrealistic that it is childish in the pejorative sense.
 
dp5284 said:
Hi,

I really didn’t know where to put this…and I kind of want the opinion of someone who is a little bit more religious than I am and a little less biased towards one direction. I am a 19 year old female and I have a girlfriend. I consider myself bisexual because I have had boyfriends and have had feelings for them.

I just read up a bit on why sex is for heterosexual couples and I have to disagree. God created humans to go both ways. A male will feel pleasure in his prostate if there is pressure against it. Also…why is the main center for sexual pleasure on a woman…on the outside where another female can easily stimulate it with already given anatomy? I am just wondering…if God didn’t really want this to happen…why would he create humans with the ability to please the same sex?
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Okay, i’m trying to answer the question you originally asked. Your logic appears to be that because men CAN stimulate men, they must be meant to do so. I CAN kill my children because God gave men the intelligence to create weaponry. Does that mean He wants us to?
Your reasoning behind your original question is not logical. Because we can doesn’t mean we should. I think now you need to ask the question, “Why shouldn’t I be doing this? I enjoy it.” You should try, with your posts, to ask one direct question that you would like to see Catholic reasoning behind. Also, we don’t really care about your masturbation habits. Unless you’re asking a question about masturbation, please spare us the gory details.
 
This young lady is pitiful, and I’m afraid she may be lost, unless she has some serious attitude adjustment. Roanoker
 
It is always the “new” people that make these posts. Why is that? Do they not see the “SEARCH” function at the top? Do they think they are actually the very first person to ask about this?

This topic has been so done to death that it is simply a waste of time.

Use “SEARCH”; it is your friend.
 
dp5284 said:
Hi,

I really didn’t know where to put this…and I kind of want the opinion of someone who is a little bit more religious than I am and a little less biased towards one direction. I am a 19 year old female and I have a girlfriend. I consider myself bisexual because I have had boyfriends and have had feelings for them.

I just read up a bit on why sex is for heterosexual couples and I have to disagree. God created humans to go both ways. A male will feel pleasure in his prostate if there is pressure against it. Also…why is the main center for sexual pleasure on a woman…on the outside where another female can easily stimulate it with already given anatomy? I am just wondering…if God didn’t really want this to happen…why would he create humans with the ability to please the same sex?
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I think you mean why did he not change our design to prevent the ability of homosexual action? God clearly gave us free will to do and not do as we chose. This is not limited to sex, it is simply our choice.
dp5284 said:
Homosexuality doesn’t fit under the norm and I completely understand that aspect of it. Yes, man and woman are interlocking puzzle pieces. It also boils down to the simple human need to reproduce.
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mostly but there is really more, many men and women live in married celibate states. this is because they want and need intimacy even with out physical action
There are parts in the bible that reference love as not knowing a specific gender. Also, where does the scientific logic explain transgenders?
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love does not require physical relations
I don’t find my ways sinful, I am actually very happy in my relationship. My relationship with my girlfriend isn’t simply based on pleasure…yes sex is fun but I would do anything for her. If that leads me to hell…so be it. At least I know that I followed my heart and I don’t see anything wrong with that.
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there are 2 different items here 1) is it wrong 2)willing to go to hell. (1)The Church teaches these actions are “disordered” meaning the people believe the action to be okay when it is not. (2) If you chose hell that is again the definition of free will.
Species wise. Some animals are homosexuals but that doesn’t mean the entire population is. The species will still go on. (yes humans are animals. We are no different.) If reproduction is such a major factor and if I do end up making a life long commitment with my girlfriend we will either adopt or one of us will be inseminated.
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Yes but insemination is not natural, adopting is a work of alms
I refuse to believe a church that hides information and is built by such a pitiful species as ours. I will probably get banned and this post will probably be deleted. My parents first put me in a catholic school and then they decided they want me to figure out this world on my own. I know that I am a good person. I would give the shirt off my back to a neighbor who is cold.
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I am Pro-choice. I like masturbating but it doesn’t consume my life. I don’t compare my lover to the models on the porn that I watch when I have nothing else to do (I get turned on when I see an idea that I like but…I don’t really get off to it).

May the baby you save be Gay, and you know the song Jesus loves the little children. Well…Jesus also loves the little homos.
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Peace, Love, and Happiness to you all.
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These are subjects of intimacy not relations. In time you will see an ability to separate these issue – but should intimacy and relations be separated? - the Church teaches no, I agree with the Church

I hope that helps
 
dp5284 said:
I don’t mind being lost
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ljprevo said:
Please take Catholic off your profile then. Oh and why did you even come here asking about this topic if you are going to bait us? Give me a break.:mad:
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Hmm… :hmmm:

That would seem appropriate.

But I am not convinced.

What am I not convinced about? Well, I am not convinced that the background information, both stated and implied, on this thread is, well, accurate.

It is always new peoiple that start these types of threads. This thread is nothing more than regurgitated bait. The main difference is that the OP used the female gender in order to get the attention of guys.

I find this whole thing about as accurate and plausible as the sum of the angles of a triangle being 200 degrees.
 
to the original poster, if you really have an issue bring it to the table. but it doesn’t seem that way. don’t waste the time of people who mean well trying to counsel you. don’t post this stuff trying to anger others. take it somewhere else.
 
rpp said:
It is always the “new” people that make these posts. Why is that? Do they not see the “SEARCH” function at the top? Do they think they are actually the very first person to ask about this?

This topic has been so done to death that it is simply a waste of time.

Use “SEARCH”; it is your friend.
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Well, aren’t we Mr. Grumpypants today. If it’s such a waste of time, why post in it? 😃
dp5284 said:
Homosexuality doesn’t fit under the norm and I completely understand that aspect of it. Yes, man and woman are interlocking puzzle pieces. It also boils down to the simple human need to reproduce.

Um…no. Human relationships are not simply about reproduction…you say below that you’re relationship isn’t simply based on sex.
There are parts in the bible that reference love as not knowing a specific gender. Also, where does the scientific logic explain transgenders?
That would fall under psycological science, not biology.

I don’t find my ways sinful,
Why would you? I am actually very happy in my relationship. My relationship with my girlfriend isn’t simply based on pleasure…yes sex is fun but I would do anything for her. If that leads me to hell…so be it.Be careful what you wish for…ever read Dante’s Inferno? At least I know that I followed my heart and I don’t see anything wrong with that. Let’s say, for the sake of moral discussion, your heart led you in a pedophile direction. Would you see anything wrong with that?

Species wise. Some animals are homosexuals but that doesn’t mean the entire population is. The species will still go on. (yes humans are animals. We are no different.) Beg to differ. That is a “speciest” argument; i.e. we’re just a different species, no better, no worse than any other animal. If that were the case, why would there be a need for any sort of religion? Sad, really, that people don’t have the self-respect to consider themselves any higher up than an animal.If reproduction is such a major factor and if I do end up making a life long commitment with my girlfriend we will either adopt or one of us will be inseminated. How selfish is that? Raising a child without a paternal influence?

I refuse to believe a church that hides information How so?and is built by such a pitiful species as ours. How so? I will probably get banned and this post will probably be deleted. My parents first put me in a catholic school and then they decided they want me to figure out this world on my own. I know that I am a good person. I would give the shirt off my back to a neighbor who is cold. That’s nice.
I am Pro-choice. And the babies that get killed would consider you a “good person” because why??I like masturbating but it doesn’t consume my life. I don’t compare my lover to the models on the porn that I watch when I have nothing else to do (I get turned on when I see an idea that I like but…I don’t really get off to it).

May the baby you save be Gay, and you know the song Jesus loves the little children. Well…Jesus also loves the little homos.Nice. :rolleyes:

Peace, Love, and Happiness to you all.
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dp5284 said:
I don’t mind being lost
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Apparently not.
dp5284 said:
Hi,

I really didn’t know where to put this…and I kind of want the opinion of someone who is a little bit more religious than I am and a little less biased towards one direction. Is that really why you posted? Seems to me that you’re entire posting has been nothing but contentious. If you have specific questions, ask them. But flaunting your disbelief or sexual practices isn’t exactly asking for an opinion. What exactly are you looking for??I am a 19 year old female and I have a girlfriend. I consider myself bisexual because I have had boyfriends and have had feelings for them.

I just read up a bit on why sex is for heterosexual couples and I have to disagree. God created humans to go both ways. A male will feel pleasure in his prostate if there is pressure against it. Where did you hear this?? I can say for certain, that when men reach a certain age, we get yearly (digital) prostate exams. There is nothing pleasurable about it. :eek: Also…why is the main center for sexual pleasure on a woman…on the outside where another female can easily stimulate it with already given anatomy? I am just wondering…if God didn’t really want this to happen…why would he create humans with the ability to please the same sex?
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He also gave humans the ability to kill one another. :rolleyes:

Again, I’m wondering whether you’re just throwing your lifestyle out here to get a reaction or if you have legitimate questions. If my responses seem “uncharitable”, it’s because I tend to believe the former. If not, my apologies…

It’s sad to me that you seem to think that God doesn’t consider we humans any more special than the animals and treat your body accordingly. If you’re really looking for some answers, go read Genesis 1-11. You’ll see that we are indeed very special to God.
 
dp5284 said:
May the baby you save be Gay,
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I am pretty sure that is not up to you. 😃
dp5284 said:
and you know the song Jesus loves the little children. Well…Jesus also loves the little homos.
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Yes he does, he loves all homo sapiens and wish to call them all away from sin and into a life of grace. That inlcudes those who are affilicted with Same Sex Attraction.
 
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