Homosexuals adopting children?

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BlindSheep said:
I’m not sure I understand what you mean by “normal”. Do you mean that because it occurs frequently, it’s therefore less damaging to the child? Children raised in a single parent household are deprived of either a father or a mother - foster children are deprived of both, they have no stable, permanent family at all. A single parent household usually exists because of fornication or divorce - both sins. So basically, are you saying there are “normal sins” which are less damaging than “abnormal sins”?

As far as “the end does not justify the means”, I’m not talking about deliberately creating homosexual couples for the purpose of providing homes to orphaned children, I’m talking about the choice between placing the child in the home of such a couple vs. an institution.
The difference is doing evil to bring about good (ends do not justify means) and bringing good out of an evil that exists anyway.
An analogy would be the difference between murdering someone to harvest their organs, and transplanting organs from a murder victim.
Or the difference between raping a woman in order to have a child vs. adopting a child concieved through rape.
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Alternatives exist to raise children that do not include same sex parents. Single parents, or institutions, while not ideal do not confuse gender roles as same sex couples, or triples, do.

Why is such a relationship seen as a legitimate alternative?
 
Anybody wonder if God wanted gays to have sex and bear children he would of made it possible;)
Since he did not gays should not have kids in their care…totally wrong!
 
Neo Canaan [/quote said:
;1549354]Stop 'lowing gays to adopt children!! Kick 'em O-W-T from the church!! The gays, that is.

Sure that’s not Neo Anderthal?
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Karin said:
Anybody wonder if God wanted gays to have sex and bear children he would of made it possible;)
Since he did not gays should not have kids in their care…totally wrong!
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So is it totally wrong for science to help impregnate infertile women?
 
cathgal said:
A child raised by same sex is not normal. What do you suppose a child learns from this abnormal setting?
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How do you explain homosexual individuals emerging from heterosexual, two-parent homes?
 
Karin said:
Anybody wonder if God wanted gays to have sex and bear children he would of made it possible;)
Since he did not gays should not have kids in their care…totally wrong!
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So by your logic, infertile couples were not intended by God to have kids in their care?
 
I take it by “confuse gender roles”, you don’t mean the lack of both female and male role models, or the example of sexual immorality, since these would also apply to a lot of single parents. Do you mean that there is a greater chance children adopted by homosexuals will themselves become homosexual?
 
Island_Oak said:
So by your logic, infertile couples were not intended by God to have kids in their care?
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miracles can happen between a man and a woman…what miracle occurs between two men going at it-none!?
There is always the chance that an infertile couple could have kids on their own…there is NO CHANCE IN HELL that two men or two woman could have kids on their own!
 
Island_Oak said:
How do you explain homosexual individuals emerging from heterosexual, two-parent homes?
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That such folks arise from heterosexual couples does not mean it is “normal”. The norm is non homosexual children. Does every single variation mean anything goes simply because it arises?
 
BlindSheep said:
I take it by “confuse gender roles”, you don’t mean the lack of both female and male role models, or the example of sexual immorality, since these would also apply to a lot of single parents. Do you mean that there is a greater chance children adopted by homosexuals will themselves become homosexual?
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Possibly, but even if they do not such exposure is doing a type of moral violence. Do children have any rights? What other experimentation may be done to them? Why stop at two same sex persons pretending to be two “dads” or two “moms”?

Does fredom mean anything goes simply because one claims they must act a certain way?
 
I wonder.
Should single or divorced people be allowed to take in foster children?
What about two unmarried women who are sisters, living together?
What about married couples who use contraception/are having affairs/have been previously married?

Or to be as clear as possible:
-Does sexual sin make people unfit adoptive parents?
-Are children better off with no parental figures than one, or two of the same gender?
-Are people who cannot reproduce unfit to care for children?
 
BlindSheep said:
I’m not sure I understand what you mean by “normal”. Do you mean that because it occurs frequently, it’s therefore less damaging to the child? Children raised in a single parent household are deprived of either a father or a mother - foster children are deprived of both, they have no stable, permanent family at all. A single parent household usually exists because of fornication or divorce - both sins. So basically, are you saying there are “normal sins” which are less damaging than “abnormal sins”?
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I’m not saying single parent nor foster is always perfect. These people still has to be screened if they can adopt or not. Imperfect does not mean unnatural. At least a child’s morality will not be screwed.
As far as “the end does not justify the means”, I’m not talking about deliberately creating homosexual couples for the purpose of providing homes to orphaned children, I’m talking about the choice between placing the child in the home of such a couple vs. an institution.
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Are there no more decent people to adopt other than homosexuals?
The difference is doing evil to bring about good (ends do not justify means) and bringing good out of an evil that exists anyway.
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Do you really think a child raised in an evil environment will come out unscathed?
 
fix said:
That such folks arise from heterosexual couples does not mean it is “normal”. The norm is non homosexual children. Does every single variation mean anything goes simply because it arises?
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Not at all. I am simply pointing out that there is some severly flawed logic underpinning some of the posts here.

The reason this arrangement would be intolerable for those who subscribe to the Catholic position on practicising homosexuals is that such a couple is living in an immoral and flagrantly sinful manner–presumably as inapproprite an environment as parents who were co-habiting fornicators, remarried divorcees, or couples practising birth control. Does that leave us with anyone to raise the kids?!
 
fix said:
What does infertility have to do ith gender roles?
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Just following her logic to its inevitable conclusion. Infertility has no regard for gender roles–it’s an equal-opportunity plague.
 
Island_Oak said:
Not at all. I am simply pointing out that there is some severly flawed logic underpinning some of the posts here.

The reason this arrangement would be intolerable for those who subscribe to the Catholic position on practicising homosexuals is that such a couple is living in an immoral and flagrantly sinful manner–presumably as inapproprite an environment as parents who were co-habiting fornicators, remarried divorcees, or couples practising birth control. Does that leave us with anyone to raise the kids?!
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Are you refering to adoptive kids only?
 
cathgal said:
I’m not saying single parent nor foster is always perfect. These people still has to be screened if they can adopt or not. Imperfect does not mean unnatural. At least a child’s morality will not be screwed.
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What is this “unnatural”? All sin is unnatural, it’s all a perversion of God’s plan. If having sinful parents means the child’s morality is “screwed”, well, then every child’s “morality is screwed”.
Are there no more decent people to adopt other than homosexuals?
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Maybe, maybe not. When/if there aren’t, what should be done? That’s what I’m asking.
Do you really think a child raised in an evil environment will come out unscathed?
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All environments on earth are evil to some degree, and no one is unscathed. If children can only be cared for by people who aren’t sinful, all children will have to be abandoned, since no one is fit to raise them. Even if only Catholics in a state of grace are fit to raise children, most children will be in unfit homes.
 
BlindSheep said:
I wonder.
Should single or divorced people be allowed to take in foster children?
What about two unmarried women who are sisters, living together?
What about married couples who use contraception/are having affairs/have been previously married?

Or to be as clear as possible:
-Does sexual sin make people unfit adoptive parents?
-Are children better off with no parental figures than one, or two of the same gender?
-Are people who cannot reproduce unfit to care for children?
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We’re not talking about just any sins committed by humans nor any number of same gender raising a child.
We’re talking about a profound intrinsically evil deed between same sex. An unnatural, disorder deed that that has no place in the order of creation.
 
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