Homsexuality and Child Molestation Linked

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In the May issue of Homiletic and Pastoral Review is an article written by Brian W. Clowes and David L. Sonnier titled “Child Molestation by Homosexual and Heterosexuals”. The article is an effort to get some truth and understanding out regarding the clerical sex abuse crisis, including refutation of those homosexual groups that deny any linkage between active homosexuality and child molestation. In fact, the link is very well documented per references in the article. In addition to shedding more accurate light on the clerical sex abuse crisis, further insight may be gained as to how a homosexual subculture feeds itself in the creation of new victims and why we must be vigilant in not allowing homosexual propoganda to be taught or demonstrated to school children of any age.

References in the article:
  1. From “The Kinsey Data”:
“Homosexual Alfred Kinsey, the preeminent sexual researcher in the history of sexual research, found in 1948 that 37 percent of all male homosexuals admitted to having sex with children under 17 years old.”
  1. From “Fraternal Birth Order and Sexual Orientation in Pedophiles”:
"A very recent (2000) study published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that ‘The best epidemiological evidence indicates that only 2-4% of men attracted to adults prefer men. In contrast, around 25-40% of men attracted to children perfer boys. Thus, the rate of homosexual attraction is 6-20 times higher among pedophiles.’ "
  1. From “Sexual Partner Age Preferences of Homosexual and Heterosexual Men and Women”:
“Another 2000 study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that ‘all but 9 of the 48 homosexual men preferred the youngest two male age categories for sexual activity.’ These age categories were fifteen and twenty years old.”
  1. From “Pedophiles: Mental Retardation, Maternal Age, and Sexual Orientation”:
"Yet another recent study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior fond that ‘Pedophilia appears to have a greater than chance association with two other statistically infrequent phenomena. The first of these is homosexuality…Recent surveys estimate the prevalence of homosexuality, among men attracted to adults, in the neighborhood of 2%. In contrast, the prevalence of homosexuality among pedophiles may be as high as 30-40%.’ "
  1. From “Heterosexuality, Homosexuality, and Erotic Age Preference”:
"A 1989 study in the Journal of Sex Research noted that ‘the proportion of sex offenders against male children among homosexual men is substantially larger than the proportion of sex offenders against female children among heterosexual men…the development of pedophilia is more closely linked with homosexuality than with heterosexuality.’ "
  1. From “Behavior Patterns of Child Molestors”:
“A 1988 study of 229 convicted child molesters published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that 86% of pedophiles described themselves as homosexual or bisexual.”
  1. From “Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality”:
"In a 1984 Jounal of Sex and Marital Therapy article, sex researchers found that ‘The proportional prevalence of [male] offenders against male children in this group of 457 offenders against children was 36 percent.’ "
  1. From “The Gay Report: Lesbians and Gay Men Speak Out About Sexual Experiences and Lifestyles”:
“Homosexual activists Karla Jay and Allen Young revealed in their 1979 Gay Report that 73% of all homosexuals have acted as ‘chicken hawks’ - that is, they have preyed on adolescent or younger boys.”
  1. From “The Proportions of Heterosexual and Homosexual Pedophiles Among Sex Offenders Against Children: An Exploratory Study”:
“In a 1992 study published in the Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy, sex researchers K. Freud and R.I. Watson found that homosexual males are three times more likely than straight men to engage in pedophilia, and that the average pedophile victimizes between 20 and 150 boys before being arrested.”
  1. From “Homosexualities: A Study of Diversity Among Men and Women”:
“A study by sex researchers Alan Bell and Marin Weinberg found that 25% of white homosexual men have had sex with boys sixteen years and younger.”
 
What a surprise. One deviant behavior is actually associated with another deviant behavior. These scientists better be sent to the re-education camp and get with the program before they are called haters.
 
I propose that this is almost irrefutable evidence that normalizing homosexuality to school children puts them in serious risk of danger.
 
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Brad:
I propose that this is almost irrefutable evidence that normalizing homosexuality to school children puts them in serious risk of danger.
Bingo!!! It is what we have been maintaining all along. But, will the press again ignore this?
 
I’m not surprised. The fact that gays generally like em’ young has been known for years in the gay community. I wonder what all the Catholics who are naive enough to think that the sex scandal and number of gays in the priesthood are completely unrelated will think of this.
 
The link between homosexuality and ephebophilia (attraction to adolescents) goes back to ancient Greece, where man-boy sex was rampant and widely accepted as normal. Thank God for Christian morals. I think that in the '60s the USCCB recommended banning ordination of priests with homosexual tendencies, although obviously this was ignored.

How widespread are the sex abuse scandals in the Church? Are they limited to the United States or have there been cases in other countries?
 
It’s funny that seeing as the highest proportion of abused children are females and usually abused by someone they know, uncle, family friend etc etc.

Per populous there are more straight men and women who abuse than per populous of homosexual men and women.

Sexual abuse is an evil that runs throughout all quarters of society.

You might like to check this site out
prevent-abuse-now.com/stats2.htm#Offenders

God Bless

Teresa
 
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Neithan:
The link between homosexuality and ephebophilia (attraction to adolescents) goes back to ancient Greece, where man-boy sex was rampant and widely accepted as normal. Thank God for Christian morals. I think that in the '60s the USCCB recommended banning ordination of priests with homosexual tendencies, although obviously this was ignored.

How widespread are the sex abuse scandals in the Church? Are they limited to the United States or have there been cases in other countries?
I think you can get statistics from what’s called the Jay report. I do know this problem occurred in several countries…I am thinking Australia for one.

Lisa N
 
From the above posted link

Inmate interviews in 277 prisons in 45 states, conducted during 1991, revealed
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Of all prisoners convicted of rape or sexual assault, two-thirds victimized children;
Three out of four child victims were female;
Offenders typically preyed on children they knew, not strangers;
Eighty-eight percent had a prior relationship with their victims;
Prisoners convicted of attacking children were mostly male (97 percent);
Almost 70 were percent white;
Sixty-four percent were married or divorced;
Child victimizers were generally five years older than those who victimized adults;
About 22 percent of the child sex offenders reported having been sexually abused themselves during childhood; and
Three out of four prisoners who victimized a child reported the crime took place in their own home or in the victim’s home.
 
From “Fraternal Birth Order and Sexual Orientation in Pedophiles”:

"A very recent (2000) study published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that ‘The best epidemiological evidence indicates that only 2-4% of men attracted to adults prefer men. In contrast, around 25-40% of men attracted to children perfer boys. Thus, the rate of homosexual attraction is 6-20 times higher among pedophiles.’ "
 
I would never trust ‘studies’ done by right wing interest groups, they are always biased, always have a predetermined agenda (and so to might liberal interest groups but at least they don’t think they have God on their side). Most sexual abuse occurrs betwen straight men and young girls. Ussually relatives.

How convenient it is to try and make homosexuality ( and the homosexual agenda ) seem as awful as possible by comparing them to paedophiles. Nice and easy.

Saying that all sexual perversion is the same really points the total lack of objectivity on the issue, a religiousely based conclusion that the ‘facts’ are made to fit into. Where do we actually get that idea from the bible? Why is all perversion the same, surely there are different motives, and inadequacies if you like, behind different perversions. So why judge them as if they were the same?

Is this not a desperate attempt by a disaffected and insular religiouse community to demonise all homosexuals as if they were the worst of the worst?
 
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cynic:
I would never trust ‘studies’ done by right wing interest groups, they are always biased, always have a predetermined agenda (and so to might liberal interest groups but at least they don’t think they have God on their side). Most sexual abuse occurrs betwen straight men and young girls. Ussually relatives.

How convenient it is to try and make homosexuality ( and the homosexual agenda ) seem as awful as possible by comparing them to paedophiles. Nice and easy.

Saying that all sexual perversion is the same really points the total lack of objectivity on the issue, a religiousely based conclusion that the ‘facts’ are made to fit into. Where do we actually get that idea from the bible? Why is all perversion the same, surely there are different motives, and inadequacies if you like, behind different perversions. So why judge them as if they were the same?

Is this not a desperate attempt by a disaffected and insular religiouse community to demonise all homosexuals as if they were the worst of the worst?
I do not trust left wing, secular reports that start from a vantage point that rejects an eternal truth. It is well known homosexuals have a proclivity for teen males. The current abuse crisis in the Church is case and point.
 
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I do not trust left wing, secular reports that start from a vantage point that rejects an eternal truth. It is well known homosexuals have a proclivity for teen males. The current abuse crisis in the Church is case and point.
and how many older men have married women half their age? are they peadophiles? How many 30 or 40 something men marry 19/20 year old girls? And what is the eternal truth here, that homosexuality leads to peadophilia?
 
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cynic:
and how many older men have married women half their age? are they peadophiles? How many 30 or 40 something men marry 19/20 year old girls? And what is the eternal truth here, that homosexuality leads to peadophilia?
You contradict yourself…how many older men have married WOMEN half their age…not little girls, WOMEN. I am sure you are not talking about a 30 year old marrying a 14 year old but more likely some guy in his forties marrying a 22 year old. These are adults marrying other adults, not a 30 year old male preying on a l4 year old schoolboy.

BTW if you are trying to impress everyone by using the European spelling of the word, be aware the a goes first

Lisa N
 
Lisa N:
You contradict yourself…how many older men have married WOMEN half their age…not little girls, WOMEN. I am sure you are not talking about a 30 year old marrying a 14 year old but more likely some guy in his forties marrying a 22 year old. These are adults marrying other adults, not a 30 year old male preying on a l4 year old schoolboy.

BTW if you are trying to impress everyone by using the European spelling of the word, be aware the a goes first

Lisa N
18 and 19 year olds are also adults, and their is very little difference in appearence between an 18 year old and a 22 year old. If you want to clarify teenage as those below 18 then fine, but a prefence for youth, although dodgy, is not pAedophilia. (I’m from New Zealand not europe, know where that is?)
 
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springbreeze:
It’s funny that seeing as the highest proportion of abused children are females and usually abused by someone they know, uncle, family friend etc etc.

Per populous there are more straight men and women who abuse than per populous of homosexual men and women.

Sexual abuse is an evil that runs throughout all quarters of society.

You might like to check this site out
prevent-abuse-now.com/stats2.htm#Offenders

God Bless

Teresa
“While it is true that pedophilia is distinct from homosexuality, the two are not necessarily separate at all times. Like sadomasochism, which is a combination of the disorders of sadism and masochism, homosexuality may or may not delve into pedophilia. As long as the one perpetrating the abuse is of the same sex as the one being abused, the abuse is — by definition — homosexual. The age of the victim might also make it pedophilia. So, a woman who abuses a boy is a pedophiliac but not a homosexual. A man who abuses a boy is both. A woman who abuses a girl is both, while a man who abuses a girl is merely a pedophiliac. See the division of pedophilia into exclusive and non-exclusive categories in DSM-IV”: behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/pedophiliaTR.htm

“Since the predilection of homosexuals for young victims is well-attested to in gay literature, the disorders of homosexuality and pedophilia are commonly found together, though this is not always the case.”

“Homosexuals, as homosexuals admit, make up roughly 1% of the population (see the footnotes to the brief filed by the homosexual lobby in the Texas sodomy case). So, in raw numbers, it is certainly true that more heterosexuals are abusing than homosexuals, if only because there are 99 times more heterosexuals in the world. Simple questions of access come into play. You can’t abuse a child you have no access to.”

“Children are most often abused by non-biological household residents, i.e. step-parents, parental boyfriends, girlfriends, etc. Following that, biological relatives are the next most frequent abusers (uncles, fathers, brothers, mothers, sisters). This is followed by public school and day care personnel. The reasons are obvious: access and stigma.”

“While the access to children for both non-biological and biological household residents is high, the stigma is relatively lower for non-biological residents than for biological residents. The access for child-care custodians is somewhat lower, but the stigma is lower still. More could be said on this point, but you get the idea.”

“So, comparing raw numbers of heterosexual abusers to raw numbers of homosexual abusers does not give us a good understanding of the problem. We have to compare on a per capita basis. That is, what percentage of heterosexuals versus homosexuals abuse, and what is the average number of victims abused?”

“On both counts, the homosexuals come out on top. In terms of pure percentage of respective populations, more homosexuals abuse, and each homosexual abuser attacks far more victims.”

The information above was taken from the article:
The clergy abuse scandal: homosexuality or pedophilia?

I think this information is important to consider in the light of some of the claims and objections made in this thread, including Teresa’s.
 
cynic said:
18 and 19 year olds are also adults, and their is very little difference in appearence between an 18 year old and a 22 year old. If you want to clarify teenage as those below 18 then fine, but a prefence for youth, although dodgy, is not pAedophilia. (I’m from New Zealand not europe, know where that is?)

Yes I do and I didn’t say you were FROM Europe but were making an attempt to use the traditional European spelling of the word. And you are preaching to the choir in stating the the preference for youth is not pedophelia. I agree and I do not believe that the priest sex scandal was a pedophelia problem but a problem of predatory homosexuals who focused on adolescent boys, not the under ten set that a true pedophile is focused on.

But there is a diffence between adults and children, or maybe we should call the group preyed upon “youth.” That a man might marry a WOMAN (not a girl a WOMAN) who ten years younger does not mean his preference for sexual partners is a l4 year old kid. OTOH the predatory priests DID look for youth (under 18) to prey upon when in reality there were likely willing partners of their own age. There is a distinct preference for youth in this community, and they mean kids, not 22 year olds.

Hope this clarifies things a little better

Lisa N
 
Lisa N:
I agree and I do not believe that the priest sex scandal was a pedophelia problem but a problem of predatory homosexuals who focused on adolescent boys, not the under ten set that a true pedophile is focused on.
Lisa N
Then they are by definition paedopohiles. Who also may be homosexual. If there is a proven psychological link between the two then you need to prove it, not make statements as if that were a given. Is this another excuse to make homosexuals appear as dried dog turd, the worst type of human beings, and if homosexuality and this are linked then why do straight men abuse kids at all.

The only indisputable link I can think of is between men and abuse, in 99.9% of the cases the abuser is a man.
 
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