Honoring Mary is Biblical, according to the bible.

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First off, I doubt anyone would openly dishonor Mary. She is a great model of belief, her “Yes” being an example of how we should behave when God calls us (Luke 1:38). It would even be correct to say that Mary is Blessed (Luke 1:48). As the woman who gave birth to Jesus, she is an important figure in Christianity.

Some dogma, such as the Virgin birth are supported by Scripture (Isiah 7). However remember the example of Mary at Cana, she did not ask Jesus to change his mind, but she simply said “Do whatever he tells you” (Luke 2:5).

However some dogma, such as the Immaculate Conception (rejected by St. Thomas and Medieval Thomists as described in this article by EWTN: ewtn.com/faith/Teachings/marya2.htm) and the Assumption have been made binding on a Christians’ conscience when there is simply no Biblical support, and conflicting traditions (for example the Eastern Orthodox have a slightly different understanding of this concept). at best. Is it possible that Mary was conceived without sin, yes. Is it possible that she was assumed body and soul into heaven, yes. Should it be an article of Faith binding on a Christians’ conscience, no.
 
Bill_Pick said:
Dokimas, How long have you been making the rules here, and who die and put you in charge, I missed that part,I was thinking this was a Q and A froum,Thanks for let ing me know you have your rules
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There’s asking questions and then there’s nagging. It’s not becoming for you when you nag. I just thought you’d want to know. Not being bossy just friendly, Bill.
 
To the point: ‘i tell you today’, vs. ‘i tell you, today’
you both have it wrong: you’re thinking in “temporal” terms. God is outside of our space/time continuum. Of course, Jesus being fully human (and fully God )while being present on earth operated in this continuum, but at/after death…was not. Obviously, he was speaking in terms we can understand, But arguing about the semantics doesn’t apply here.

It appears to me that Jesus first descended, then ascended:

Eph 4:8 Therefore He says: “When He ascended on high, He led captivity captive, And gave gifts to men.”

Eph 4:9 (Now this, “He ascended”–what does it mean but that He also first descended into the lower parts of the earth?

Eph 4:10 He who descended is also the One who ascended far above all the heavens, that He might fill all things.)

In Luke 16:19-31, it indicates : “Abraham’s Bosom” vs. “Hades”, 2 different sections divided by a ‘great gulf fixed’
Jesus, upon dying, descended freed the souls and then ascended with them to Heaven. But we can’t think of theses things on a linear time line.
Of course, that’s really the only way our “limited minds” can think, but look at the bigger picture and step out our limited thinking.
Lets not put God in our box, but think of Him in His.
 
Dokimas said:
There’s asking questions and then there’s nagging. It’s not becoming for you when you nag. I just thought you’d want to know. Not being bossy just friendly, Bill.
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If I ask a person what denomination you belong to,what is that to you,do I not have that right,You can learn about a person if you know the denomination,just saying I,m Prostestant can say I,m a JW. you really do not know
 
Bill_Pick said:
If I ask a person what denomination you belong to,what is that to you,do I not have that right,You can learn about a person if you know the denomination,just saying I,m Prostestant can say I,m a JW. you really do not know
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You just can’t give it up can you?​

Again, I just thought you would want to know it gets to the point of nagging. If you don’t mind being a nag, oh well.
 
Dokimas said:

You just can’t give it up can you?​

Again, I just thought you would want to know it gets to the point of nagging. If you don’t mind being a nag, oh well.
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After reading some of your post it may be me that is nagging
 
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