Hooters to receive blessing – from priest

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Ortho:

You comment on the message, then can’t tell us the message? Just tell us the message. If it’s obvious, it should be easy.

Why the game?

 

[Larry1700]

Liberalsaved:

Yeah, and that’s something it’s realistic to expect people not to do. I think no one can say anything more than answering “no” to “Have you looked at another person in lust?” when the answer is really yes.

It realistically can be done. As someone who for most of my life lusted (followed often by mast****tion), one day Jesus’ words equating lust with adultery finally dawned on me. I knelt in prayer and prayed for strength to quit. The very next day I was EASILY able to avert my eyes or not feed the temptation by imagining “what I’d like to do with that girl”. It was amazing, and I am very happy to say this one was beaten by Him. It took, of course, my willingness to let Him, and --for someone who is so weak in willpower-- I have a long list of other sins (jealousy, selfishness, etc.), which I am for some reason unwilling to completely part with.

I’m from Waco, and what bothers me about the priest’s blessing AND him saying he’s gone to Hooters twice before, is that it pulls the rug out from under me as a parent and a recent convert to Catholicism. I’ve been openly speaking out (in our home) in praise of the “One True Church” for the last few years, and more recently have been telling my children how I’m against Hooters coming to Waco because of Jesus’ admonition about lustfullness. Perhaps the priest is doing something akin to Jesus eating with the tax collectors and sinners, but as an earlier poster said, He attempted to change their hearts by His words during the dinner. I don’t know fully what the priest did or said, but he needs to make a public statement of some sort, because the Waco Tribune-Herald (which, like most news media, often doesn’t provide a completely factual account) certainly makes it sound like the priest is saying it’s okay for anyone to eat at Hooters.

No, I’ve never been to a Hooters, but iwhile it may be true that experience is often the best teacher t’s ridiculous to make the assertion that you have to experience something in order to offer an intelligent opinion about it. Only 12 or so people have ever actually been to the moon, but that doesn’t disqualify scientists and teachers from talking about it or even from educating others about it.

I’ve been to a few strip clubs in my past life, so I’m not naive. Hooters is definitely not a strip club nor is it a wh***house. The food may be great and the prices may be reasonable.However, anyone who claims that the theme of Hooters does not INTENTIONALLY promote sexuality is clearly being dishonest with others, with himself, or both. You know what the name implies. You know what the tight shirts are meant to show.

If you still don’t understand, here’s a question for you. I’m 180 pounds of pure muscle cleverly concealed under 80 pounds of pure fat. Would you be as eager to go to a Hooters if there were only watiers like me wearing the tight T-shirts and shorts? Okay, maybe you’d like to go for a few laughs, but certainly not for the same reason you like going to Hooters now.

Going to Hooters to look lustfully at the women is against what Jesus taught. However, even if you can go without looking lustfully at the girls, you’re supporting a business which tempts others to go against what Jesus taught.

 

[Al_Masetti]

I’ve never been to Hooters. But at Newark Airport (and probably at other airports - been to too many airports), I have seen airplanes with the Hooters paint.

Perhaps the priest should be blessing the airplanes to deliver the planes and their crews and passengers from evil.

 

[felra]

Bottom line: Never having or intending to patronize Hooters, it is using sex appeal (those obnoxious expressway billboards), appeal to objectify a woman’s God given figure to entice, intrigue, stir man’s God given sexual desire (men are visual), all for the sake of increasing buisness profit. Since everyone knows this (no room to minimize of rationalize this central aspect of their buisness), the bottom line for professing Catholic men is this – Unless a believer can make a compelling witness to the light of Christ, what type of message are Catholic men sending to others by patronizing this buisness establishment?

The Gospel writers made no compromise or allowance for darkness, why should we?

Matt. 5:14-16 “You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hid. Nor do men light a lamp and put it under a bushel, but on a stand, and it gives light to all in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven.”

Romans 13:11-14 (abbr) “Besides this you know what hour it is, how it is full time now for you to wake from sleep. … Let us then cast off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light; let us conduct ourselves becomingly as in the day, …But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to gratify its desires.”

Ephesians 5: 6-11 “Let no one deceive you with empty words, …Therefore do not associate with them, for once you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord; walk as children of light (for the fruit of light is found in all that is good and right and true), and try to learn what is pleasing to the Lord. Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.”

Phil. 2:15 “…that you may be blameless and innocent, children of God without blemish in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you shine as lights in the world.”

Hebrews 12:14 “Strive for peace with all men, and for the holiness without which no one will see the Lord.”

 

[steveandersen]

Al Masetti:

…Perhaps the priest should be blessing the airplanes to deliver the planes and their crews and passengers from evil.

That would be an appropriate blessing. Don’t you think?

The bottom line is what did he say when he blessed it. His own words indicate that he blessed it as a place where people eat together and earn their living
Very appropriate
I should probably have the priest come over and bless my office (God knows I need it)

I’m willing to give a priest the benefit of the doubt that he didn’t say “may their wonder bras runneth over” or some such silly thing

I mean we aren’t the Talaban. We don’t believe that men and women are so intrinsically weak that the very sight of each other is enough to push us over the edge. If you have that sort of weakness you can just stay at home with the Sears’ catalogue and save yourself some money.

 

[Larry1700]

Ortho
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Re: Same-Sex Marriage

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We have yet to see “non-religious reasons why same-sex marriage is not good for society.”

This quote from Ortho found in a same-sex marriage thread should clearly show that Ortho prefers “non-religious” reasons on which to judge the validity of an argument/principle… Since this is not a thread for a discussion on the source of moral law, I’ll leave it at that for now. I just wanted everyone to be aware of the precepts from which he bases his reasoning. If someone can’t agree that water exists, you’re gonna have a tough time convincing him of the importance of learning to swim – until he’s drowning.

 

[felra]

steveandersen:

I mean we aren’t the Talaban. We don’t believe that men and women are so intrinsically weak that the very sight of each other is enough to push us over the edge. If you have that sort of weakness you can just stay at home with the Sears’ catalogue and save yourself some money.

This is a very weak (dare I say wimpy) position. If we (Catholics) lower the expectation and standard then 1) who will know that we are even Catholic, 2) what reason will there be for others to want to convert of become more fervent in their faith walk?

 

[jebojora]

Ortho:

Here’s a novel criticism. It caters to the wrong socio-economic class.

As I recall, Jesus spent a lot of time with what might be called white trash.

Yes, but not encouraging them. He spent time with them leading them away from sin!

 

[manualman]

Ortho, liberalsaved, et all. Are you telling us honestly that you see NO fundamental difference between a Bennigans and a Hooters? No differing marketing approach? Are you legally blind?

As noted above, I’ve been to one of these places. I’m not proud of that and I won’t be back. But I can tell you first hand that the intention behind the seductive adevertising, the tight shorts, the two sizes too small tops is to let men look and enjoy viewing the depersonalized sex objects that bring around the drinks/food (what decent human beings call women). The client I went there with CLEARLY understood and enjoyed the message and wanted me to do the same.

Your rationalizing doesn’t fool us and probably doesn’t fool you either.

To anyone who finds themselves here, I recommend the thermonuclear grade hot wings. Your eyes will water so much that you won’t be able to sin.

 

[jebojora]

Ortho:

Has anyone noticed the poeple who have been to Hooters say it is a normal place with good food, while the people who have never been there condemn it? Didn’t someone once say something about religion being the incubator of ignorance?

manualman said the following:

manualman:

I used to go there with a certain client (his choice, poor judgement on my part). Trust me. Men go there specifically to see sexy women in very tight, short shorts and very tight tank tops while drining beer, elbowing each other to make sure nothing is missed and laughing about it. The entire atmosphere is designed to encourage this

So apparently manualman has been there and formed the same opinion.

 

[rlg94086]

I agree. I had a boss who took me there for lunch. I had the same surprise as Dr. Laura. It’s a restaurant.

beckyann2597:

I once heard Dr. Laura talking about how she went to a Hooters restaurant for lunch and she had prepared herself to be completly ticked off. Instead, she found the menu to be very good, the service to be helpful, and instead of finding a bunch of tramps serving the food, she siad -yeah the girls had on tight lower cut shirts and short shorts, but all of them had on dancer tights and her well groomed. She told the listening audience, there were no bare midrifts or bra straps showing and that was better than many of the radio show adiences’ daughters by far.

Do I like Hooters? No. Will I ever go there to eat or buy or wear a Tshirt? No. I don’t really like that a priest blest the place, but at least it wasn’t a “Gentlemens Club”.

 

[Julian_Peters]

Due to the lack of charity, this thread is now closed.

 

[Julian_Peters]

Due to the over-all lack of charity, this thread is now closed.