Horse forum----Catholic Converts

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I have been noticing something very interesting. I have been part of a horse forum for many years and in that time there has been some terrible things said about Catholics and Catholicism. Here recently though there has been a reversal taking place and questions being asked of Catholics are thoughtful and very respectful. Seems that a lot have converted to Catholicism and lapsed Catholics are coming home. Very surprising coming from what always seemed like a haven for atheists or progressives that know little about the faith but were quick to condemn. Anyway just wanted to mention that I am pleasantly surprised. Welcome Home my fellow Catholic horse lovers.
 
Hi,

I didn’t realize there was a horse forum!! YAY! I have a horse and my husband has one. We ride almost every weekend weather permitting!😃
 
Hi,

I didn’t realize there was a horse forum!! YAY! I have a horse and my husband has one. We ride almost every weekend weather permitting!😃
Ive heard of horse farms with hay but never horse forums yay!:D:p

Peace!!!
 
Hmm,
I never thought of CAF as being a haven for atheists and the like. There are some here, but over all, it seems Catholic, at least to me.
 
I’ve never heard of religion being discussed on animal forums - strange, but nice your horse forum is going the other direction now.

I belong to a rabbit forum, but haven’t been able to find one for donkeys. Are donkeys welcome to mingle with your horses? 😃
 
I just made out a log post that is hanging out there in cyber space. So here is another post, short and sweet for all of you. Chronical of the Horse is the page you will need to go to. I just type in Coth forum. Happy reading.

Yes donkeys, rabbits, dogs, cats, etc are all welcome. Quite a few very knowledgeable people on there willing to help.
 
Horsewomen, especially, are a tough crowd. The atheists usually have free rein on those types of boards. I think many strong-willed women that put their horses ahead of personal commitments have many failed and painful relationships in the past. Horses are expensive and many who choose to have them cannot afford to have children as a result. This sets up conflict between the horse loving spouse and the non-horsey spouse. I have had many horsey friends that appear selfish to me because they have several horses but no children. However, I think there is much more going on than selfishness. Many people who gravitate towards animals at the exclusion of children do so because of emotional issues in their own childhood or terrible experiences which have made them lose their faith in people.
 
Catholic Farmer

You really are a comedian and should have your own TV show. LOL

I should probably remind you that this is not the 1950’s and you really can have it all. I think I may need to take you by the hand so you can take a giant leap into the year 2016 with me. Let’s go-----

It really is possible to have a family, a job outside the home, and a horse or even two, ride/show even if it chaps the butt of a Neanderthal or two. This was my career for a long, long time and kept us afloat when my husband would lose a job or two. Now, it is just my sport that I dearly love even after 50+ yrs of doing it. Even standing outside teaching in 90 degrees or 20 degrees riding a horse or two, yes, I still love it.

I have had to give it up for a few years like when I was pregnant and cared for my son, or when my husband lost his job and I went back to the normal job of being in an office or when I decided to hang up my saddles for awhile and just give more time to Christ which I still do. But he always gave it back to me----two fold.

I can promise you that a horse or two can be kept on a strict budget. My horse has acreage to graze on which cuts down her feed bill tremendously. Her feed is increased accordingly with the amount of work she receives. She has two clean water troths to drink from depending if she is in the upper pasture or the lower one. She is barefoot. I give my own shots. I can promise you my cat costs more to feed and house.

I feel badly that you have such negative thought about a woman having a horse as her hobby/sport/career. Would you feel justified to say these things to a pro golfer? A basketball pro? An Olympic swimmer? Especially if he were a man? Why is it then that when a women has a horse for a career or a sport or just for a hobby you feel it is ok to chastise her for that.

Yes, us horsewomen are a tough bunch. We have to be. We handle a 1200lb+ animal daily and sometimes even have to push them around for them to get the message-----and then we have those like you, telling us to get back in the kitchen. LOL I just find it so rich and laughable. Are we not ever allowed to have just one slice of heaven here on earth? Even if that slice is an animal without someone like you thinking we had some horrible experience in our childhood because we enjoy the company of an animal and gravitate to them?

No, what might make me lose my faith in a few people is that sometimes some people really don’t know when to just clam up. Ya know?? LOL
 
Very well said! I raised two sons and have taken countless nieces, nephews and family members horseback riding. It’s a wonderful way to bond! My husband and I pray before each ride and thank God when we are done riding for keeping us safe!

I am soooo happy when I ride that I can’t help but smile and say, “THANK YOU GOD for allowing me this pleasure” 🙂

I am over 50 too and hope to ride as long as it’s God’s will. My family always comes first and I would quit in a minute if it ever interferes with any of my family life. Thank you!!
 
I have had many horsey friends that appear selfish to me because they have several horses but no children.
You just don’t hang around with the right kind of people! Everyone I know who has horses also has kids. And they all ride together.
 
You just don’t hang around with the right kind of people! Everyone I know who has horses also has kids. And they all ride together.
I typed my post in a hurry. I can see I should have slowed down. I was talking about the horse board that the OP referred to and the general attitudes (which sway heavily against all Christian religions). I have been on that horse board off and on for quite awhile and I was referring to a specific group of people on that board who post about how much they love being child-free. Obviously, this is not the group of people (including me) that have horses and a family.

Merry Christmas.
 
Catholic Farmer, I sympathize with what you are saying, and I’m a woman! I’m very sorry I didn’t run into better crowds of horse-women. I assure you that your characterization of some horse-women holds water with my own experience. Does that mean I think they’re all like that? Of course not.

Here’s how your assessment has played out in my own experience. One, a dear friend, is a vet and happy as a clam to be single and child-free. She’s one of the most agreeable horse-women I’ve been around. I went to a Lippizaner show once, and when one of the women learned I was engaged, she said, “Don’t do it.” Another, my roomie, isn’t particularly fond of children, and tends to a higher regard for animals. My instructor was similar, though I think she did have kids. Another woman who mentored me wasn’t married and had no kids. One of my husbands coworker’s wife has horses and has essentially said no to children. So, I hear you. However, my mother-in-law is a wonderful woman, and they own horses, even though they weren’t rideable by the time I met my husband.

I know not all fit the persona you described, but they are the ones I primarily ran into. I eventually quit riding because I didn’t make any friends, and primarily because I’m miserably allergic to a lot of the hay. People can make or break the riding experience, in my opinion, as learning to be around horses is demanding. I’m disappointed I didn’t run more into the other sort.
 
TCEL/Catholic Farmer: Those are the ones you primarily ran into because let’s face it-----riding is a physical sport. Have you ever tried to ride competitively ----- pregnant??? I have and let me tell you it is an interesting ride. I have ridden competitively almost every day of my life since I was a kid and so got the ok from my Dr. to keep it up----within reason.

Tell me—how is a woman suppose to keep up with her career or sport or hobby and satisfy those like you and the other poster? If a horsewoman gets pregnant that’s at lease two years ( AT LEAST) away from her career/sport/hobby. Riding takes a long time to learn and even longer to get good at it. And along comes “those” people that feel you need to stop all that nonsense and start spitting out kids.

We are not talking about knitting here----we are talking about a very physical sport and I find it very telling that anyone feels a woman should push it all aside to satisfy someone that feels she needs to be pregnant and having kids.

Now, if you were told to “not get married or not to have kids” by the horsey set maybe they had a reason for saying that. I do know that in my thirties the thought of having a baby was NOT my cup of tea—at least not yet. That’s a very personal choice and happens on that persons timeline and NOT yours Or Catholic Farmer. Maybe you consider that selfish I consider it wise to make such a drastic change in one’s life when THEY are ready for that change and not being pressured to make that change to appease society.

Do I know any horsewomen that put off having children so they could continue riding—sure I do. That’s not up to me to tell them when they need to stop riding and start having kids. I have one friend that lives on a large farm where many horse shows and XC events are held. She has camels, zebras, water buffalo, and many other exotic animals that live at her farm. She also has many dogs she has taken in as rescues. She does not have children WHY???-----because she can’t have any. Her animals have become her children." Well, obviously something must have happened to her in her childhood to make her not WANT kids and to gravitate to animals." See how silly that is----that’s how she would be judged by those that think she needs to be having kids. I tell ya this is beginning to infuriate me. Who do you think you are making a judgement on women that ride and don’t have a kid on each breast at the very moment YOU feel they should??

It is not my business if someone has kids or not and it certainly is not my business or right to ridicule them for making a choice that maybe I don’t approve of.
 
Catholic Farmer, I sympathize with what you are saying, and I’m a woman! I’m very sorry I didn’t run into better crowds of horse-women. I assure you that your characterization of some horse-women holds water with my own experience. Does that mean I think they’re all like that? Of course not.

Here’s how your assessment has played out in my own experience. One, a dear friend, is a vet and happy as a clam to be single and child-free. She’s one of the most agreeable horse-women I’ve been around. I went to a Lippizaner show once, and when one of the women learned I was engaged, she said, “Don’t do it.” Another, my roomie, isn’t particularly fond of children, and tends to a higher regard for animals. My instructor was similar, though I think she did have kids. Another woman who mentored me wasn’t married and had no kids. One of my husbands coworker’s wife has horses and has essentially said no to children. So, I hear you. However, my mother-in-law is a wonderful woman, and they own horses, even though they weren’t rideable by the time I met my husband.

I know not all fit the persona you described, but they are the ones I primarily ran into. I eventually quit riding because I didn’t make any friends, and primarily because I’m miserably allergic to a lot of the hay. People can make or break the riding experience, in my opinion, as learning to be around horses is demanding. I’m disappointed I didn’t run more into the other sort.
I think the big issue here is that everyone is assuming that I am a man.

Is it because women can’t be farmers? Why not?

I am a farmer and a war veteran, actually. Both of which lead to the common online assumption that I’m a man. I am, most certainly, a woman. I have been involved with horses for many years. I’m not into showing or breeding- that’s for the wealthy, but having a horse to ride on the trails or to work our cattle. I started with my first horse at 15 and she was boarded at a cheap local stable. Boarding a horse taught me a lot about horse people, both the good (compassionate) and the bad (a little crazy at times).

It’s fine if you don’t agree with me, but it is entirely inappropriate to call me names, such as ‘neanderthal’. If I were a man, it would still be inappropriate.
 
BTW, the thread you were referring to, OP, was attacked by the usual suspects. They show up every time Catholicism is mentioned. It is pointless to argue with them.
 
Catholic farmer: I too sit on a tractor and do a little farming.

I didn’t call you a Neanderthal but that your way of thinking on this subject is.

I am not wealthy either but through the years have gotten a lot of rides from owners/trainers that have carried me along. For that I am very thankful.

The big issue is NOT that everyone thinks you are a man—the big issue for me is that you feel a woman should not continue her chosen career and instead should have babies otherwise she is being shellfish, yet YOU joined the military as a career-----why didn’t you have children instead of being in the military? Furthermore, who are you to say a horsewoman should not be out there doing her horsey thing and instead should be having babies.
 
I think the big issue here is that everyone is assuming that I am a man.

Is it because women can’t be farmers? Why not?

I am a farmer and a war veteran, actually. Both of which lead to the common online assumption that I’m a man. I am, most certainly, a woman. I have been involved with horses for many years. I’m not into showing or breeding- that’s for the wealthy, but having a horse to ride on the trails or to work our cattle. I started with my first horse at 15 and she was boarded at a cheap local stable. Boarding a horse taught me a lot about horse people, both the good (compassionate) and the bad (a little crazy at times).

It’s fine if you don’t agree with me, but it is entirely inappropriate to call me names, such as ‘neanderthal’. If I were a man, it would still be inappropriate.
Thanks for your service. The people really are a mixed bag. For instance, I’m sure my experience would have been different if I had run into folks like you all! Or maybe I’m the difficult one, lol.
 
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