Hospice helped dying man lose his virginity

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Oh you’re about to die. Let’s put you in a state of mortal sin first.:confused:
 
Hard to tell, but I think the nun mentioned (Sr Frances Dominica–about 3 pgs of Google results) might be Anglican?

Not that that makes it okay, and not that there aren’t many Anglicans (here & elsewhere) who aren’t as disgusted with her actions as Catholics should be.(😦 I found the article to be so very, very sad. On so many levels.)

What I mean to point out is that if she is, in fact, an Anglican religious, then obviously Catholic moral teaching on sexuality isn’t going to jibe with her understanding.
 
And here I thought it was going to be a little old man who wanted to give it up.

I’m amused by part of Sister’s name starting with “Dom” in this story.
 
Good Guess Stephanie!!!
  1. Sister Frances, Founder Of The World’S First Children’S Hospice
Sister Frances Dominica founded Helen House 20 years ago in the grounds of All Saints Convent, Oxford, where she was mother superior. It is now the 29th hospice in a nationwide chain. Sister Frances has brought comfort to countless families suffering the terminal illness and death of a child. This Anglican nun is an inspirational figure who combines a kindness with financial nous, organisational flair and the steely authority of a chief executive. On a trip to Ghana in 1989 she adopted a baby, Kojo, and stepped down as mother superior to bring him up in a house in the convent grounds. Despite her work she remains an extraordinary optimist.
 
:eek:

I don’t know why I was shocked to read this–in today’s world I shouldn’t be surprised:rolleyes:
 
The sister states in the article that they are there for people of all faiths, and are not there to make moral decisions for the people they serve. This young man was 22 years old and made this decision on his own.

From the article…

Sister Frances described Mr Wallis as “delightful, intelligent and aware young man”.

“I know that some people will say ‘You are a Christian foundation. What are you thinking about?’. But we are here for all faiths and none,” she said.

“It is not our job to make moral decisions for our guests. We came to the conclusion that it was our duty of care to support Nick emotionally and to help ensure his physical safety.”
 
The sister states in the article that they are there for people of all faiths, and are not there to make moral decisions for the people they serve. This young man was 22 years old and made this decision on his own.

From the article…

Sister Frances described Mr Wallis as “delightful, intelligent and aware young man”.

“I know that some people will say ‘You are a Christian foundation. What are you thinking about?’. But we are here for all faiths and none,” she said.

“It is not our job to make moral decisions for our guests. We came to the conclusion that it was our duty of care to support Nick emotionally and to help ensure his physical safety.”
1.How does doing a prostitute(who knows what disease) add to physical health.
  1. Emotional health? Enter into the most itimate relation with a complete stranger.How’s that healthy?
  2. I think they left out spiritual health. Are we not a body/soul composite?
 
So how did he like it? Any reports on that?
“It was not emotionally fulfilling, but the lady was very pleasant and very understanding. I do not know whether I would do it again. I would much rather find a girlfriend, but I have to be realistic.”

It siounds like it wasn’t worth it. Refund?:rolleyes:
 
The sister states in the article that they are there for people of all faiths, and are not there to make moral decisions for the people they serve. This young man was 22 years old and made this decision on his own.

From the article…

Sister Frances described Mr Wallis as “delightful, intelligent and aware young man”.

“I know that some people will say ‘You are a Christian foundation. What are you thinking about?’. But we are here for all faiths and none,” she said.

“It is not our job to make moral decisions for our guests. We came to the conclusion that it was our duty of care to support Nick emotionally and to help ensure his physical safety.”
This nun is ignorant. A Christian nun is to encourage the Christian life no matter what situation she is in. She is not to encourage sin no matter what.
 
I don’t think anyone here should mock this unfortunate man, who has lived with this devastating condition most of his life. He sounds very thoughtful, and I think we Catholics should show compassion to him, rather than derision. He’s a young man with the same urges as anyone else, and I think I can understand where he’s coming from.
 
This nun is ignorant. A Christian nun is to encourage the Christian life no matter what situation she is in. She is not to encourage sin no matter what.
It states in the article that he never spoke directly with her regarding this decision. I think she says that their mission statement is to care for the dying, not to decide how they should live their lives. This young man is an adult not a child.
 
I think I can understand where he’s coming from.
Hmm…well, there are certainly a lot of stories and tv shows and stuff that talk (either seriously or jokingly) about needing to lose one’s virginity before one dies as if dying a virgin is the most pathetic thing that can happen to a young man.

Sadly, that’s where our culture, especially our young male culture, is at.

In primitive cultures, I guess it is sort of understandable. Although among the primitives, sex is still linked (like it should be) with procreation…so it not so much dying “a virgin” which they frown upon, but dying childless (otherwise, in their thought, you don’t leave a legacy). But we need to remember that as Christians we can rise above the natural order of natural legacies, and leave legacies of faith, hope, and charity. And need to teach people that there are more important things than perpetuating their bloodline (though from an evolutionary perspective it is an understandable urge). But there are more important things than having children (like making sure those children get to heaven).

So that is the anthropological basis of it. But in a culture where birth control has made sex so detached from reproduction (this young man didn’t want a son, afterall, he wanted meaningless sex)…the vestigial remnant of the urge is rather bizarre and sad.

We need to try to bring back the Truth that dying a Virgin is one of the most glorious things one can die as…along with dying a Martyr and a Doctor.
 
This nun is ignorant. A Christian nun is to encourage the Christian life no matter what situation she is in. She is not to encourage sin no matter what.
This is interesting. This is the correct attitude for any Christian, not just a Nun. In addition, encouraging this is is encouraging his health in every aspect.

Now he has broken his chastity and added disorder to his difficulties he is not happier, not empowered, but less on both counts. License does not empower as sin enslaves.

But when I first read the Nun’s reaction it sounds so reasonable. It is reasonable if there was no Christ and we were on our own. She denied by her actions that Christ is the Way, although it must require incredible charity to minister to suffering atheists and non believers who make such requests and so hard to council them with charity, but it is true charity to always counsel according to the Way.

No wonder adoration was a part of Mother Theresa’s order. Adoration focuses us on our life of grace.

Heh, I need to make a holy hour.🙂
 
Ok, let me get this straight,

A young man is about to die,

so,

the nuns at this hospice help him to commit a mortal sin. :confused:
 
Ok, let me get this straight,

A young man is about to die,

so,

the nuns at this hospice help him to commit a mortal sin. :confused:
Mortal sin?? That’s not a very nice thing to say. You shouldn’t be so quick to judge people.
 
Can’t make a judgment? The nun did.

Being both in the world and of the world.
 
It states in the article that he never spoke directly with her regarding this decision. I think she says that their mission statement is to care for the dying, not to decide how they should live their lives. This young man is an adult not a child.
It is not her job to get him a prostitute or to encourage him to get one. Her job is to promote the Christian life.
 
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