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Adonis33
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Having sex with a protitute is a mortal sin - unless of course the postitute happens to by your wife.
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Adonis33
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Nobody here is mocking him. How is supporting his decision to commit a portal sin compassionate? What if his goal wa to use heroin? Would giving him needles be compassionate?
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Dale_M
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erm… probably he didn’t want meaningless sex, given his comment that
If I were in my early to mid twenties, I too would probably want to experience sex, in any form, before I died. After all, our culture places such a high value on sex and derides those who do not “get” sex.
It would have been nice if the sister had reinforced our values with him, rather than giving in to the values of the world. But as others have mentioned, she was an Anglican nun and perhaps her church’s outlook on sex differs from ours.
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Caesar
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Extra-marital sex is a mortal sin. By supporting him in his choice to purchase a prostitute, they helped him commit a mortal sin.
And to support him commiting a mortal sin before death, especialy since he seems unrepentant, is a stupid move on their part. Unless he comes to his senses and realizes his sin, well, I dont think I need to explain what will happen…
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chicago
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Open wide the doors! Or was that the flip side from starboard?
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chicago
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How much did she cost? Who “called” the call girl? Did sister go out and pick her up off the street (gotta help the poor lady with your ministry, afterall), did he use the yellow pages, how long did he get with her?
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Adonis33
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I really need to spell check my posts.
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Caesar
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Oh, ANGLICAN nun! Whew, this article had me worried that a Sister of the Catholic Church, along with clergy and laity, supported such action. But this is just business as usual for the Anglicanserm… probably he didn’t want meaningless sex, given his comment that
If I were in my early to mid twenties, I too would probably want to experience sex, in any form, before I died. After all, our culture places such a high value on sex and derides those who do not “get” sex.
It would have been nice if the sister had reinforced our values with him, rather than giving in to the values of the world. But as others have mentioned, she was an Anglican nun and perhaps her church’s outlook on sex differs from ours.
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Adonis33
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Maybe the prostitute showed some compassion for the young man by giving a discount.
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Adonis33
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He sought sex with a prostitute. You can have meaningful sex with a prostitute???erm… probably he didn’t want meaningless sex, given his comment that
If I were in my early to mid twenties, I too would probably want to experience sex, in any form, before I died. After all, our culture places such a high value on sex and derides those who do not “get” sex.
It would have been nice if the sister had reinforced our values with him, rather than giving in to the values of the world. But as others have mentioned, she was an Anglican nun and perhaps her church’s outlook on sex differs from ours.
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Dale_M
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Honestly, I don’t know what values are upheld in the Anglican Church (which is why I used the “confused” emoticon). Our Episcopal Church is pretty liberal/secular.But this is just business as usual for the Anglicans
But I think Catholicism is different in its attitude toward sex. We don’t think it is a necessary human experience, but something that can given up all life long. I think the nun in this story was trying to help the young man complete his life in some way.
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I don’t think he thought it about it beforehand. I can remember being his age and wondering what the hoopla surrounding sex was all about. If I had had a terminal disease, I would have been tempted to try to have this adult experience, this life completing experience that popular culture celebrates. I think he may well have thought that there was some magic being denied him.
My point was that the sister should have reinforced Christian values with him, rather than caving in to popular values.
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chicago
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She took half off?
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Caesar
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The Anglicans take a very “whatever you want” position to their faith. You will find Anglicans/Episcopalians who can be very conservative and other who will be very liberal (although I think the liberals far outweigh the conservatives there).
In Anglicanism there is basicaly thwo distinctions- High Church and Low Church. A High Church Anglican is more likely to have conservative values, while the Low Church resembles most other liberal protestant sects. Then there are the Anglo-Catholics (Anglicans who think they’re Catholic) who use Catholic liturgies (usualy the NO or the TLM, adapted to the personal preferances of a specific congregation) and generally have Catholic values, although they too are divided into liberals and conservatives and centrists.
Anglicanism is very divided. Believe whatever you want, follow whatever you want to follow, just dont forget to pay your taxes to Canterbury.
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OK, yeah, he MIGHT have his own “urges”, but a nun helping him sin???
Where do you leave that???
I think some people is losing it here… The things that are OBVIOUSLY wrong are being questioned… I feel in the Twilight Zone … starts listening the Twilight Zone Theme out of nowhere goear.com/listen.php?v=9323ebb :bigyikes:
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If a young man in a nun’s care were about to commit murder, would it be appropriate for her to support him emotionally in doing it? What about rape? Suicide? Then why would it be appropriate for her to support him in doing something else so spiritually and emotionally destructive? A Christian woman working in a Christian hospital should not be supporting what she knows to be an act of misguided self-destruction, not under any pretenses.
She emotionally supported Nick Wallis in doing something that we know to be grave matter. You’re right, we certainly don’t know that it was a mortal sin.
I don’t think this is Mr. Wallis’ fault: It takes a profound degree of misunderstanding about human sexuality to think that hiring a prostitute for sex would help in any way or aid awareness of the difficulties that face people with handicaps. People don’t usually arrive at misunderstandings or levels of ignorance like that at their own fault: He simply doesn’t know the truth about human sexuality. Just another way in which Sister Frances failed.
God bless.
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