Houston's new Co-Cathedral

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and we are blessed to be able to participate in the dedication of the Co-Cathedral … at least vicariously, through the wonders of television… i know i’ll be watching… :extrahappy:

and i am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO glad that our wonderful “new” sheperd and recently named Cardinal Archbishop Daniel DiNardo got here to right the ship as far as the construction of the Co-Cathedral itself so that we can have a worship place to be proud of for the next hundred years or so:thumbsup:
 
Did you watch the special on Channel 13? The had an hour special on where all the statues, stained glass windows and the pride that the workers took in building the cathedral.

It was pretty cool. Can’t wait until my friend gets ordained as a deacon this summer in the cathedral.
 
Let me guess, you two don’t like any of the newer more modern Cathedrals 🙂 this one in Huston looks very lovely, but from what I can see on line anyway, I don’t like the stain glass of Christ. 🤷 maybe it would look better in person. 🙂

faithful servant always good to see again 😉 😛
 
thanks be to God we were spared the abomination that is the “Cathedral” in lalaland

the 40 foot stain glass window of Christ kind of reminds me of the Image at the Basilica of the Immaculate Conception… at least in the Face anyway

thanks anamchara…always good to be seen 👋

beckers, yes i did see the special on ch 13 about the making of the Co-Cathedral… it was very interesting

sure wish i had been able to wrangle one of the tickets to be there in person, but i’ll have to settle for watching it on tv
 
Let me guess, you two don’t like any of the newer more modern Cathedrals 🙂
Are you referring to me? I’ve been to the cathedral in LA and I think it’s beautiful.

I just also think this cathedral is beautiful and it’s in my hometown, and I donated a pile of money to the campaign when I lived there, and I’m glad to see it finally done before the old co-cathedral literally fell down on someone.

And, I loooove Fr. Troy Gately, the pastor. He’s awesome.
this one in Huston looks very lovely, but from what I can see on line anyway, I don’t like the stain glass of Christ. 🤷 maybe it would look better in person. 🙂
Can’t please everyone. Christ rising from the tomb over the Houston skyline is pretty cool, and I think the stained glass art is beautiful.
 
Are you referring to me? I’ve been to the cathedral in LA and I think it’s beautiful.

Really? I love it as well. I stand corrected, sorry 😊 I just got the impression by the posts you two didn’t like the more modern. I was reading too much into words. 😃 Many on here do not like anything modern so I assumed, always a bad idea.
Can’t please everyone. Christ rising from the tomb over the Houston skyline is pretty cool, and I think the stained glass art is beautiful.
 
What a beautiful cathedral! I can only hope that the audio of Bruckner’s Locus Istre and Durufle’s Ubi Caritas were sung by our sister choir in Houston.
 
Hooray! I haven’t been to see it in person yet but hope to attend a Mass there soon.

Questions, I’ve been sort of “unplugged” from events here recently:

What channel/time is the dedication being aired on TV?

What is going to become of the old co-cathedral building now? Talk about it falling down on someone…seriously. 🙂
 
Really? I love it as well. I stand corrected, sorry 😊 I just got the impression by the posts you two didn’t like the more modern. I was reading too much into words. 😃 Many on here do not like anything modern so I assumed, always a bad idea.
No, I like all kinds of architecture. From the ancient to the modern. There are a lot of modern churches that I find very beautiful (and some I find hideous). The St. Pio shrine/church at San Giovanni Rotundo in Italy is very modern and very beautiful.
Our city recently had the catherdral refurbished, it so beautiful so I know how you feel. You should be very proud. 😉
The original co-cathedral was a lovey old parish church but an elevated freeway was built right in front of it in the 60s and the vibrations have literally caused it to begin falling apart. Plus it was way too small for diocesan functions as it only sat about 500 people. They did an engineering study and determined the best solution was a new cathedral. I’ve seen it several times during visits to Houston as it’s progressed and it’s just stunning.
 
What is going to become of the old co-cathedral building now? Talk about it falling down on someone…seriously. 🙂
The original plan called for it to be razed and a parking facility and offices/classrooms/etc erected. I don’t know if that’s still the plan. The old church is structurally unsound.
 
Yes it is a beautiful co-cathedral, but why was it built? The Cathedral (minor basilica) in Galveston last I heard needs a lot of work in restoration. Why does the Archdiocese of Galveston Houston need with two co-cathedrals? Please do not tell me that it is because we have a new Cardinal, because the plans for it were long before there was even an Archdiocese.
 
The original plan called for it to be razed and a parking facility and offices/classrooms/etc erected. I don’t know if that’s still the plan. The old church is structurally unsound.
according to what i have heard there is no plans on the table to tear it down
 
What a beautiful cathedral! Is it oriented a la orient? 🙂 (My one quibble is with the face of Our Lord in the Sacred Heart window.)
 
Yes it is a beautiful co-cathedral, but why was it built?
Because in addition to being completely inadequate from a seating capacity perspective, the old cathedral has been declared structurally unsound. It’s falling apart.
The Cathedral (minor basilica) in Galveston last I heard needs a lot of work in restoration. Why does the Archdiocese of Galveston Houston need with two co-cathedrals?
Basic Texas history. Galveston was originally a population center, a major port and the second most busy immigration entry point into the US behind Ellis Island. Galveston was a thriving city when the first diocese was created in Texas. Of course that was where the original cathedral was built. However, as you know the city was wiped out in the 1900 storm and it never recovered to its former propserity.

Houston is the population center. Houston is where the people are. Therefore Sacred Heart was elevated from a parish church to the co-cathedral. The retaining of St. Mary’s as a co-cathedral is largely symbolic and a nod to history. Galveston is over an hour from downtown Houston and close to 2 hours from the northern and western parts of the city. It clearly isn’t where the center of diocesan life is any longer.
Please do not tell me that it is because we have a new Cardinal, because the plans for it were long before there was even an Archdiocese.
No. It is because we needed a space to accomodate the diocesan events, and it makes no sense to build that facility in Galveston when the population is in Houston.
 
Because in addition to being completely inadequate from a seating capacity perspective, the old cathedral has been declared structurally unsound. It’s falling apart.

Basic Texas history. Galveston was originally a population center, a major port and the second most busy immigration entry point into the US behind Ellis Island. Galveston was a thriving city when the first diocese was created in Texas. Of course that was where the original cathedral was built. However, as you know the city was wiped out in the 1900 storm and it never recovered to its former propserity.

Houston is the population center. Houston is where the people are. Therefore Sacred Heart was elevated from a parish church to the co-cathedral. The retaining of St. Mary’s as a co-cathedral is largely symbolic and a nod to history. Galveston is over an hour from downtown Houston and close to 2 hours from the northern and western parts of the city. It clearly isn’t where the center of diocesan life is any longer.

No. It is because we needed a space to accomodate the diocesan events, and it makes no sense to build that facility in Galveston when the population is in Houston.
What you say sounds good but it is a known fact or at least it was when I lived there that population growth had nothing to do with the old co-cathedral in downtown Houston is because a past bishop did not like living in Galveston for various reason and “Houston is the population center” had nothing to do with it. Even if what you say is true tell me this retired Archbishop Fiorenza before his Mass in what was called the Summit now Lakewood Church( I add that because I thought it is funny wonder if Joel O knows about that) went to Galveston to the Cathedral and not the co-cathedral, Cardinal Denardo did the same. Just a slight correction to your time guidelines it is an hours’ drive from the front door of the bishops old home in Galveston to the front door of where the Cardinal currently lives unless you do this in rush hour traffic then two to two and half hours unless you in the HOV lane then less than an hour. I know this because I go done to the island for business and visit old friends (I am BOI) near the Bishops Palace and I have a home next door to the Cardinal in west Houston

“No. It is because we needed a space to accomodate the diocesan events, and it makes no sense to build that facility in Galveston when the population is in Houston.”

from what i understand the new Co-cathedral and the Cathedral hold the same number of people
 
the new Co-Cathedral holds 1800 people the old Co-Cathedral, i’m not sure … but it seems like it was only 5-600 or so
 
What you say sounds good but it is a known fact or at least it was when I lived there that population growth had nothing to do with the old co-cathedral in downtown Houston is because a past bishop did not like living in Galveston for various reason and “Houston is the population center” had nothing to do with it.
To this I say, “who cares”. Even if what you say is true for the original reason the old bishop moved up to Houston in the 1960s, that’s within his authority to do.

And, moreover, Houston has grown north, west, and southwest in the last 40 years. Galveston is NOT the population center and is not the 4th largest city in the US. So, now that the bishops have been in Houston 40 years, and the population is clearly in Houston-- it makes no sense to go back to Galveston.

It doesn’t matter whether you agree with those decisions of days gone by. They were not yours to make.
Even if what you say is true tell me this retired Archbishop Fiorenza before his Mass in what was called the Summit now Lakewood Church( I add that because I thought it is funny wonder if Joel O knows about that) went to Galveston to the Cathedral and not the co-cathedral, Cardinal Denardo did the same.
Huh? Your sentence is a little run-on and confusing.
Just a slight correction to your time guidelines it is an hours’ drive from the front door of the bishops old home in Galveston to the front door of where the Cardinal currently lives unless you do this in rush hour traffic then two to two and half hours unless you in the HOV lane then less than an hour. I know this because I go done to the island for business and visit old friends (I am BOI) near the Bishops Palace and I have a home next door to the Cardinal in west Houston
As I said, Galveston is about an hour away from central/downtown Houston and closer to two hours from the north and west sides. I certainly wasn’t asserting an exact distance or measure of time.

I hope you will get over whatever chip is on your shoulder about Galveston vs Houston. You live in Austin now, so why do you care?
 
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