Houston's new Co-Cathedral

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Interesting.
So is the Co-Cathedral of the Sacred Heart viewed as another parish within the diocese? But have the Cardinal & Bishops as their clergy instead of a resident pastor? And the Music Director is only for this parish, but not necessarily the Diocese?

Which then leads to accounting issues … Since the parishes within the diocese are feeding into the Cathedral costs, are they also being burdened by its role as a parish? Hmmm, glad I’m not a Diocese accountant.

Just wondering out loud.
There is a resident “pastor” - the rector. The bishop is “technically” the pastor. The rector takes care of the day to day operations.

In this case, the music director is music director of this parish only. There is a diocessan director of music, but currently no one holds the title.

In some dioceses, the cathedral music director is also the director of music for the diocese/archdiocese.
 
Oh - and as for your accounting question:

In dioceses where the person is one and the same, they actually hold two jobs, that combined, make one full time position: the director of music for the cathedral, and director for the diocese. Half their pay comes from the parish and half from the diocese.
 
There is a resident “pastor” - the rector. The bishop is “technically” the pastor. The rector takes care of the day to day operations.

In this case, the music director is music director of this parish only. There is a diocessan director of music, but currently no one holds the title.

In some dioceses, the cathedral music director is also the director of music for the diocese/archdiocese.
Yes, that is very true. One time, we had a delicate situation crop up at the Cathedral and we met with the bishop, who reminded all of us that he was the pastor of the Cathedral. Now, the priest at the Cathedral is called the “administrator”, rather than rector. Furthermore, he is also the diocesan director of Divine Worship.

Since we have no choir, just a cantor/organgist, he is the defacto music for all diocesan liturgies. However, when I planned these special liturgies, I often employed the services of our local philharmonic choral. We also used the cantor from my dad’s old parish because she was one of the few in town who could sing in three languages: English, Latin and Spanish.
 
attended Mass with Cardinal DiNardo and Bishop Flores on Sunday Evening 4/6, weekend of the dedication, for NCCL members meeting in Houston. Mass was wonderful, for a bilingual (some Latin too) NO Mass, choir outstanding, sermon superb by the Cardinal on the Emaus gospel, aimed at catechetical leaders.

The Cathedral is spectacular, the best example I have seen of the virtue of “noble simplicity” of design and execution. they did not have a chance to bolt down some of the pews and kneelers, which was somewhat disconcerting, but that was the only flaw. Windows, side altars, statuary, dome, overall design inside (could not see outside much it was dark), simply beautiful.
 
Thank you for sharing the pics with the rest of us and congratulations to the people of Houston on their beautiful co-cathedral.

I went to school at Catholic University of America. From this pics, it looks very much like the Basilica of the Immaculate Conception on a smaller scale. It has that same flavor of tradtion with the modern as far as I can see from the pics.

I’m glad it’s not a duplicate of European cathedrals, because it shouldn’t be. I should be American architecture, while at the same time preserving the traditional elements that every Cathedral should have.

I live in the Archdiocese of Miami and I’m hoping we will have such a beautiful Cathedral someday. Our Cathedral is a very traditional building, but it has seen better days. Also, who ever designed it was not thing about visibility. The central nave has columns along both sides so that those in the side naves can’t see clearly.

It immitates some of the Spanish Cathedrals in Spain. Except that in Spain, you don’t sit in the side naves. Those are for side chapels and open spaces to walk, at least that’s the way they were when I was a student there. Maybe that have put seating on the side too. It’s an awful idea, because you have to look around these wide columns.

Keeping my fingers crossed that we will get the money and someone has the idea that it’s time to get a new building here in our Archdiocese.

I’m jealous of you guys in Houston.

Once again, Congrats and may it be a place of many blessings to all of you.

JR 🙂
 
I’m glad it’s not a duplicate of European cathedrals, because it shouldn’t be. I should be American architecture, while at the same time preserving the traditional elements that every Cathedral should have.

JR 🙂
I totally agree…we are a modern American city and I like that the new building reflects that. Downtown Houston was only emerging in the 1930s. It would seem weird to have a fake-old building. There’s already the beautiful old basilica on Galveston…wish the diocese would allow a little money to do some renovations there.
 
Thank you for sharing the pics with the rest of us and congratulations to the people of Houston on their beautiful co-cathedral.

I went to school at Catholic University of America. From this pics, it looks very much like the Basilica of the Immaculate Conception on a smaller scale. It has that same flavor of tradtion with the modern as far as I can see from the pics.

I’m glad it’s not a duplicate of European cathedrals, because it shouldn’t be. I should be American architecture, while at the same time preserving the traditional elements that every Cathedral should have.

I live in the Archdiocese of Miami and I’m hoping we will have such a beautiful Cathedral someday. Our Cathedral is a very traditional building, but it has seen better days. Also, who ever designed it was not thing about visibility. The central nave has columns along both sides so that those in the side naves can’t see clearly.

It immitates some of the Spanish Cathedrals in Spain. Except that in Spain, you don’t sit in the side naves. Those are for side chapels and open spaces to walk, at least that’s the way they were when I was a student there. Maybe that have put seating on the side too. It’s an awful idea, because you have to look around these wide columns.

Keeping my fingers crossed that we will get the money and someone has the idea that it’s time to get a new building here in our Archdiocese.

I’m jealous of you guys in Houston.

Once again, Congrats and may it be a place of many blessings to all of you.

JR 🙂
I will be visiting Miami next year. I look forward to mass and a time to visit at the cathedral. I have heard good things.
 
I will be visiting Miami next year. I look forward to mass and a time to visit at the cathedral. I have heard good things.
Everything is NO, not sure if you mind. Everything is in English, Spanish and French. On special occasions they use NO Latin.

But the mass is beautiful and the people of the parish are wonderful. The have a beautiful choir.

Our bishop is quite a character. He is like a big teddy bear. The people of the diocese love him. He is rarely there, but when he is, it’s an experience to celebrate. I’m not sure where he lives or hangs out on Sundays.

I don’t think the Pope knows either. LOL

JR 🙂
 
Let me guess, you two don’t like any of the newer more modern Cathedrals 🙂 this one in Huston looks very lovely, but from what I can see on line anyway, I don’t like the stain glass of Christ. 🤷 maybe it would look better in person. 🙂

faithful servant always good to see again 😉 😛
Its is much better in person much much better…

Especially at night it just leaves you stunned!:eek:
Its so awesome
 
I will say this, I was overwhelmed with Houston’s size during my first trip. I had to stay at the Galleria for a tour and travel expo and wound up going to Mass at St. Thomas, only because I didn’t know of any church closer. But, now I know, thanks to you, guys.
if you are staying in the galleria at any time in the future and want the nearest Catholic Church , St Michael is just a stones throw away , located at 1801 sage road… which is south of San Felipe and right off of S Post Oak which feeds right into the Galleria
 
My bishop was a former auxiliary for the Houston archdiocese (before it was raised to the dignity of Metropolitan Archdiocese).

From the looks of the pictures, this should be the “poster-child”, if you will, for future church buildings. It does combine both modern and traditional elements. Too bad LA couldn’t do theirs all over again based on the Texas model. This cathedral makes me proud to be a Texas Catholic.

I guess my only caveat, and this is with modern stain-glass windows, centers around how sharp and angular the images are. I do miss the traditional, more rounded approach. The faces in the traditional windows are much more beautiful and more human. The angular and sharp images are too strern and they just don’t seem to convey any warmth to them.
I like Houston’s new co-cathedral. While it smacks of cookbook architecture, I like its balance of a simplified older-looking design (narrow/long/cruciform with campanile) with newer building techniques and materials (it has the finish of a nice bank.) Its $49M price tag also seems quite reasonable and it will be far easier and cheaper to maintain than other cathedrals throughout the USA.

But to suggest that it should be a “poster-child” for excellence in design is simply wrong. Not even close – at least by objective design standards devoid of personal prejudice. I would be willing to bet if you took 1,000 architects at random from the AIA registry here in America that a far larger number (at least 5:1) would rate OLAC as the superior design. Then again that’s comparing a $200M project to a $49M project which is hardly fair.

I am very happy with LA’s OLAC. Most who denigrate it have never set foot inside of it. Many have probably never been to California. No question most don’t get it, but that will change in time much like the work of Frank Lloyd Wright. I think most attack it because they dislike Cardinal Mahony. While I am a HUGE fan of Cardinal DiNardo, I don’t let my praise of him influence my opinion of his co-cathedral.

I can’t really fully evaluate the new co-cathedral just by pictures and video. It’s impossible to do so. But if I had a choice of this wonderful new structure or OLAC in my backyard, without knowing more I would choose OLAC today, and twice on Sundays.
 
I’m from Galveston. My husband and I would like to visit Houston’s co-cathedral this weekend. We are very excited. Which mass do you recommend? Is there parking at or near the co-cathedral?
 
The pictures of the new Co-Cathedral are cetainly beautiful and people who have been there have told me that it’s an amazing work of architecture.

That being said, I am reminded of what a good friend of mine told me last week. He’s a priest from another community, not mine. He said that what really hurt him about some comments that people had made about the co-cathedral was that when he went there someone said to him that their cathedral was truly a Catholic church. He was deeply hurt, because he and his parishioners worked very hard for 10 years to buid a church. They had been using a multi-purpose room at the school. Their church is a box by comparison. But it was the best they could do given the budget they had and other resources. Nonetheless, he and his parishoners feel that their church is truly a Catholic church, because it does exactly what a Catholic Church should do. It provides a sacred space where God is worshipped, even though it looks like a box. It was built with a Catholic heart and soul as a building where people of faith could worship God and in years to come they could look back and feel proud of their efforts to build God the best house that they could and something that in their mind was as beautiful as they could build and at the same time very simple, because of their economic and geographical situation.

My point is this. Let us thank God for this beautiful building and appreciate it for what it is. But let us be careful not to make statements that imply or suggest that other churches and cathedrals are not as Catholic, because they do not use this particular style of architecture. Catholic is not just the architecture. The achitecture is important. Don’t get me wrong. But what happens in the building and the love for the Church that people building it have, is equally important to Catholicism.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
I’m from Galveston. My husband and I would like to visit Houston’s co-cathedral this weekend. We are very excited. Which mass do you recommend? Is there parking at or near the co-cathedral?
There is a parking lot on Jefferson at Fannin that is just caddy-corner from the cathedral. This is usually where we park and we haven’t had any problems finding a spot. There is also a parking garage off of Fannin that you can use as well.

We only go to the cathedral for special occasions (Holy Thursday, Good Friday, Easter, and Christmas) so I can’t help you with which Mass to go to.
 
I have the privilege of serving as a Master of Ceremonies for the CoCathedral. I would recommend attending the 11am liturgy, it is the one where we do incense. Also, if you would like to come this weekend (Labor Day). The Cardinal will be celebrating the 11am mass himself, which will be a nice treat.

The church is very beautiful, and I love seeing such beautiful churches in dowtown!

Let me know if you have any other questions I might be able to help out with.
 
I’m sorry for bumping such an old thread but a lot of y’all need to get your facts right.
  1. The old Co-Cathedral seats 800.
  2. Its NOT falling apart because repairs were made in 2006.
  3. The Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston has no plans of tearing down the old church.
Does this look it is falling apart?

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