How anti-Mormons will use the Mitt Romney run for the Presidency

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I wouldn’t vote for Romney BASED on the fact that he’s a Mormon.
 
AdvanceAlways said:
Obama Bin Laden is a huge threat to America. And i just know that once he runs, if you cross his policy that will make you a racist. I fully support Mitt Romney for President in 2008!
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In all fairness, let’s keep names straight.

If you really mean Barak Obama, let’s avoid confusion and use his real name - unless your intention really was to name Osama Bin Laden.
 
christianley said:
There is not much of a chance of that. Romney won’t even come close to getting the nomination – he’ll never get past the evangelicals in Iowa. I suspect McCain or Newt Gingrich will get the nomination. Conservatives will be suspicious of Romney because many of my generation will remember his liberal father.
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And to a true conservative, McCain has many drawbacks.
 
mary_bobo said:
And to a true conservative, McCain has many drawbacks.
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I was put off McCain because of the McCain-Feingold “campaign reform” bill, which guarantees that now only multi-millionaires can run for national office. I would never vote for such a foolish and short-sighted man.
Paul
 
And no, I would never vote for a Mormon for president. They are not trust-worthy.
Paul
 
mary_bobo said:
I. My DH did a lot of business with the Mormons in Utah when he worked in Denver and he speaks very highly of their ethics and way of doing business. QUOTE]

You know, on the surface they do appear highly ethical in their way of doing business.

I worked for a company in Provo which does these “get rich using these methods” conferences… I took a phone call one day from someone located in Nephi (not far from Provo) and my boss, who was a mormon bishop at the time, told me not to fill the order because the gentleman was “too close”. My boss wouldn’t sell to Mormons, didn’t use his real name in his seminars, double spaced his manuals and he got a whopping $700 for them in the mid-eighties.

I’ve had people who are Mormons apply for a job with no qualifications but using their temple recommend on their resume’.

Some radical Mormons believe that in the “end times” the Mormon church will save the constitution of the United States, which will hang by a thread. Orrin Hatch is getting a little old, so now Mitt is the new golden boy.

Be afraid of them as well.

in Christ
Steph
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Barack Obama, to the best of my understanding, is a member in good standing of the United Church of Christ. He is proudly ‘progressive’ in political worldview, but has a disarming way about himself. He is not one of the angriest liberals I have ever known. He is much more comfortable than many in his wing of the political spectrum with open expression of religious values in political discourse.

So far as Mitt Romney goes: I don’t know much about him yet but will make my decisions about him based upon his political record, his ability to get things done, and his poltical platform, not based upon his religious affiliation. I really hope we have gotten past that point in our political discourse.
 
flameburns623 said:
So far as Mitt Romney goes: I don’t know much about him yet but will make my decisions about him based upon his political record, his ability to get things done, and his poltical platform, not based upon his religious affiliation. I really hope we have gotten past that point in our political discourse.
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I agree. Mormonism makes my flesh crawl, but I’m in love with one, she has been instrumental is drawing me back to my faith after 8 years of wreckless, sinful behavior. So, I don’t spend a lot of time criticizing individual Mormons, because I think most of them are terrific people. Personally, I don’t have a big problem with a Mormon President. We’ve got Mormons in Congress. The Senate Majority Leader is a Mormon, and I think he’s done a heckuva great job.
 
majick275 said:
Obama’s info:

campaign finances:

harpers.org/sb-a-little-bit-more-on-obama-1161881683.html

basic facts:

vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=BS030017

notice the unwillingness to establish his positions. you CAN look at this voting record in the Senate though and see a stereotypical tax and spend, create welfare dependent voters, denigrate America to make foreign countries happy, Jimmy Carter style liberal.

I have a problem with that.
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Dunno if you were addressing that to me or just to the thread generally, but I certainly agree that Obama is just a kinder, gentler old-line liberal. I live in Illinois and so we get a bit more press on him than is available nationally–if that’s possible. My initial impression of Barack Obama is that I do like his charm. He also seems to be a person of good character. I do NOT like his political views, of course. My point was that I don’t know much about MITT ROMNEY as of yet, but don’t have a problem with ROMNEY’S religious views.

If Obama were a constitutionalist conservative, I wouldn’t have a problem with Obama’s religious affiliation either–I would just want to be convinced that Obama was the best possible candidate the Republicans could put forward, and looking beyond his candidacy, the person most likely to be the most-effective President. To be honest, even if he shared my political perspective I would have reservations about his electability.

Since Obama is NOT a conservative, I really am not interested in him at all except insofar as he will represent a challenge to the kind of person I would like to see nominated and elected. Frankly I doubt Obama will actually achieve his party’s nomination simply because he is such a greenhorn politician that the electorate will resist him. Even he has said as much, which is one of the reasons he has been a bit reluctant to committing himself.

This thread is about Romney and his religious affiliation, by the way, and I am trying to keep my posts focused on that.
 
fair enough. Romney is a really bad flip-flopper. He is a liberal in conservative clothing I think. Worse, I don’t think he’s even a committed liberal. I think he’s a political “chameleon” who will spin however the polls say. I think him a “better behaved” , republican version of Bill Clinton.

My greatest fear so far about the upcoming election is that someone might win. 😃
 
majick275 said:
My greatest fear so far about the upcoming election is that someone might win. 😃
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LOL, I’m afraid your fears will be realized. I wish we could return to the pre-TV days when we actually had fat, bald, bearded Presidents. American politics is nowadays just a beauty pagent. Sex-appeal is critical for a Presidential candidate, and both Obama and Romney have it in large measures. Out here in New Mexico we’ve got a gov who is considered a candidate, Bill Richardson. He’s got good moderate political credentials and a record of State Department success, as well as having been Energy Secretary under Clinton. Problem for him is, he’s fat and frumpy. Americans will rather vote for a pretty face with two years’ Senate time and no political positions that can be identified clearly. Obama, in particular, is all the rave among the TV entertainment talking heads.
 
Allweather said:
LOL, I’m afraid your fears will be realized. I wish we could return to the pre-TV days when we actually had fat, bald, bearded Presidents. American politics is nowadays just a beauty pagent. Sex-appeal is critical for a Presidential candidate, and both Obama and Romney have it in large measures. Out here in New Mexico we’ve got a gov who is considered a candidate, Bill Richardson. He’s got good moderate political credentials and a record of State Department success, as well as having been Energy Secretary under Clinton. Problem for him is, he’s fat and frumpy. Americans will rather vote for a pretty face with two years’ Senate time and no political positions that can be identified clearly. Obama, in particular, is all the rave among the TV entertainment talking heads.
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Does that also apply to Bush, Clinton, Carter, Ford, Nixon, LBJ, Eisenhower, Truman and Roosevelt? You have a weird sense of sex appeal if you think that these guys have been sexy.

zerinus
 
zerinus said:
Does that also apply to Bush, Clinton, Carter, Ford, Nixon, LBJ, Eisenhower, Truman and Roosevelt? You have a weird sense of sex appeal if you think that these guys have been sexy.

zerinus
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Bush and Clinton: yes both are good-looking, but are empty suits, especially W in that regard. They are strictly TV Land produce. Carter, also good looking in his prime, and of more intellectual/moral substance than either W or Clinton, but also a product of TV (I will never tell a lie). Ford, a special case, wasn’t elected, lost to Carter. Nixon, yes, good looking especially in the 50s and early 60s, a stong leader, but with moral flaws and a tendency to look down his long nose at people. LBJ, definitely sexy, a man with a personal touch who usually got what he wanted. Eisenhower, military hero, 'nuff said. Truman, a very dashing and surprisingly photogenic lifelong politician who was unbelievably popular in Missouri, an impeccable dresser, with expensive taste, who could hob-nob with any man, from Churchill and Stalin to the shoeshine guy. Roosevelt, totally pre-TV, and probably the least physically attractive of this group, but, considering the breadth of his leadership, his creativity, the fact that he was in constant pain, and won four terms out of a wheel chair without the public being aware of that fact, makes him one of the best. As we’ve moved deeper into TV World, our presidents have become generally prettier, and generally shallower.
 
mary_bobo said:
I agree that he is bright. He made a big success of the Winter Olympics in Utah. I have no problem with his religion. My DH did a lot of business with the Mormons in Utah when he worked in Denver and he speaks very highly of their ethics and way of doing business. I think Romney would make an attractive candidate. Perhaps he has flipped-flopped, but tell me one candidate who doesn’t “adjust his position” or rethink and say “I have learned better.”
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Ok, I will ask. What is DH? I have seen it before, but that was on a widow’s website and I assumed it meant dead husband.
 
catsrus said:
Why should his middle name bother anyone?
I did not choose either my first nor middle name.
Did you choose yours?
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For all we know, Hussein is “John” in the Middle East. Should everyone with the name “Adolf” be hated because of Adolf Hitler? It was a common name at the time. I mean, really, that’s a lame argument and immature of the GOP to use it.
 
catsrus said:
Why should his middle name bother anyone?
I did not choose either my first nor middle name.
Did you choose yours?
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I agree. My German grandmother had a cousin named Adolf. He didn’t change his name after WWII. And Adolf was his first name, NOT his middle name.
 
calchiquita said:
Ok, I will ask. What is DH? I have seen it before, but that was on a widow’s website and I assumed it meant dead husband.
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On boards I have been on it means DEAR husband.

AND I think Hussein is a common name. The name must have more meaning then just the famous one we know. I know a few families that either the mom or the dad has that last name.
 
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