How are Mormons, Muslims and non-Catholic Protestant Christians really that different?

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Jimmy_B said:
First came the Prophets, Jesus and others and their lives, actions and wordsā€¦ Then came the followers and the Churchā€¦ Then came the Bible.

Much of the Bible is a record of people and events, written well after the fact, describing those people and those various events. The Catholic Church and Catholic Popes decided what went into the Bible and what didnā€™t. Thatā€™s a historical fact!

I find it interesting that there are non-Catholics who reject traditions, when in fact, it is those traditions, oral and otherwise that ultimately lead to the formation of the Bible.

My main point here regarding those things that non-Catholic religions have in common, is that they hold beliefs that began as Catholic beliefs. Martin Luther would have no bases for any of his arguments against Catholicism, had there been no Catholic Church.

Protestants would have no one to ā€œprotestā€ against, if there were no Catholic Church.

Many things written in the Koran, obviously originated from the Bible (a Catholic book) and from the Catholic Church and from beliefs that originated as Catholic beliefs.

LDS (Mormons) wouldnā€™t exist if not for the Catholic Church, which preceded LDS.

Am the only one here that can see this? In a sense, it is a form of plagiarism and a re-writeā€¦ hundreds of years after the fact.

They are all cases where various religions and denominations took those things Catholic that they agreed with and then rejected those things they didnā€™t but those beliefs started as Catholic beliefs.

How is it that the Catholic Church got so many Christian beliefs right, according to whatā€™s copied by other religionsā€¦ but donā€™t have the same credibility and authority when it comes to beliefs that these different founders, of these different non-Catholic religions disagree with.

Does this make sense to you (generally speaking)

Your thoughts?
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I get exactly what youā€™re saying Jimmy. Protestant, Muslim, etc. etc., it doesnā€™t matter. Itā€™s like a subtle difference occured at first (Harry is in Ravenclaw not Gryffindor) and then huge changes took place, (Dumbledore is evil, Voldemort is good) but all keeping the title of Harry potter, while all the while the real author is given no credit. Whether itā€™s the belief that the Eucharist is symbolic, all the way to Jesus being an nfl football player (I know, I know, but it was funny) the point is that people were introduced to the truth by a certain source (The Church) and yet the very ā€˜authorā€™ of this truth is only given credit insofar as the story saying what the fans want it to.
 
CopticChristian said:
So. Is it better for you to answer short questions that are to the point?šŸ™‚
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You have new questions?

I still wait to receive your explain that!
Is Meaning i cop out and excuse of speaking abaut that story?
Or is difficalt for me?
Or was my answer not reasonable?
Or atc?
 
saeedm said:
You have new questions?

I still wait to receive your explain that!
Is Meaning i cop out and excuse of speaking abaut that story?
Or is difficalt for me?
Or was my answer not reasonable?
Or atc?
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ā€œcop outā€ is like saying to someone, you are not taking responsibility or you are taking the easy way out or you are not answering the question in detail. It means that they are not happy with what you write and want more.
 
CopticChristian said:
ā€œcop outā€ is like saying to someone, you are not taking responsibility or you are taking the easy way out or you are not answering the question in detail. It means that they are not happy with what you write and want more.
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Thanks
I think, that answer was enough for their question!

Becuase they donā€™t give a reasonable proof, for refuse that story of Quran!

A proof which accept each religinā€¦nor with rely to bible.

God bless
 
saeedm said:
Thanks
I think, that answer was enough for their question!

Becuase they donā€™t give a reasonable proof, for refuse that story of Quran!

A proof which accept each religinā€¦nor with rely to bible.

God bless
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Iā€™m sorryā€¦

You see theseā€¦ ā†’ :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

They are geared towards your reply.

Please explain - I do not understand
 
jakasaki said:
Iā€™m sorryā€¦

You see theseā€¦ ā†’ :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

They are geared towards your reply.

Please explain - I do not understand
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Excus me!
Do you see my first post?( 177)
And after that?
Explain Complete it?!
 
saeedm said:
Thanks
I think, that answer was enough for their question!

Becuase they donā€™t give a reasonable proof, for refuse that story of Quran!

A proof which accept each religinā€¦nor with rely to bible.

God bless
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You will get what you give.

Your answer you believe is enough. Then do not expect much.

You believe in the Quran. We donā€™t believe in the Quran.

Proof for you does not rely on the bible. Proof for others relies on the bible.

God bless.šŸ‘
 
CopticChristian said:
You will get what you give.

Your answer you believe is enough. Then do not expect much.

You believe in the Quran. We donā€™t believe in the Quran.

Proof for you does not rely on the bible. Proof for others relies on the bible.

God bless.šŸ‘
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Well done!
So , for repudiate a story of a book and then discredit all that book , you need to pragmatism proof. . . Nor by else book(story) wich itself need to proving!
Ok?
 
saeedm said:
And i answered that isnā€™t acceptable!
Donā€™t you see?!

Please bring your proof(for post#179)
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The proof is in post #179. The fact that you do not accept it does not invalidate it in any way.
 
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