How are we saved?

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To be saved we must believe in God’s love which He expressed by dying for the sins we committed against Him (Matthew 26:28). To believe in His love is to love one another as He has loved us (John 15:12). Therefore, it is not our own effort to be saved that saves us; rather it is God’s love for us and our acceptance of His love that saves us. In other word, if we do good acts just to be saved, it would not save us, because they have a selfish motive. On the other hand, if we believe in God’s love, and therefore, do good acts out of pure love, then we will be saved.
Furthermore, our contrition for our sins would be out of love for God and our fellow human beings, and not out of fear of punishment.
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The road to salvation is manifold.

You seem to have found one of the paths that may take you to ultimate salvation.

Some other example are:
Martyrdom for the faith (a last minute conversion)
Invincibly ignorant holy people
Baptized children
Repentant sinners
 
arunangelo said:
To be saved we must believe in God’s love which He expressed by dying for the sins we committed against Him (Matthew 26:28). To believe in His love is to love one another as He has loved us (John 15:12). Therefore, it is not our own effort to be saved that saves us; rather it is God’s love for us and our acceptance of His love that saves us. In other word, if we do good acts just to be saved, it would not save us, because they have a selfish motive. On the other hand, if we believe in God’s love, and therefore, do good acts out of pure love, then we will be saved.
Furthermore, our contrition for our sins would be out of love for God and our fellow human beings, and not out of fear of punishment.
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To be saved, you have to ask him to save you, and live for him.
 
By grace we are justified by faith. My Lord Jesus Christ died for me. I let Him save me.
 
Laudatur Iesus Christus.

We are saved by the Church and by the Sacraments. These are the channels of grace which make salvation possible for man and for material creation.

The means of salvation for us have three ordinary elements: (1) Education in God’s law and will, which allows us to conform our wills to God’s will and to do what He wills, or, when this fails, to correct our intentions through the Sacrament of Penance. (2) Conversion of our actions into actions of Christ through the grace of the Sacraments. (3) Our cooperation: for these means to be effective, we (or someone on our behalf, if we are personally incapable) must cooperate.

These means of salvation are only effective because of Christ’s incarnation and teachings, because of His acceptance of suffering and death for love of His Father, and because He established the Sacraments as the means propagating His intentions through time and material creation.

Only grace saves. The grace that saves is the love among the persons of the Holy Trinity. Only through the Sacraments do we have access to this grace.

To the extent that anyone who does not personally participate in the Sacraments is saved, it is through the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass and the extension of the means of grace, administered by Christ through His Church, to those outside the formal bounds of the Church, because they have formed a sufficient intention so to be joined to the prayers and actions of the Church.

All of these elements of salvation are necessary, because of the nature of original sin and its effects and because salvation is intended for as much of material creation as possible, not only for individual men.

Pax Christi nobiscum.

John Hiner
 
We are saved by obeying God in our conscience with our entire being. No man however can do this on his or her own accord. Coming to obediance to God comes about by God working in our lives and drawing us to Him. It can take years. Sometimes personal tragedy or danger or failure or even success. It can come about when we cannot attain our selfish worldly goals or when we attain them and find they are not what we expected. God draws us to Him and we respond by obeying. This is how we are saved.
 
We are saved by being baptized in the name of Jesus, and receiving his Spirit, The Spirit giving us the grace to understand God’s teaching, and the grace to live God’s Word.
 
Being saved means that we have to die without being in mortal sin. We begin by repentance, Faith, and Baptism. And then after baptism we live by repentance, Faith, and Confession. That’s about the most simplest way to formulate it.
 
COPLAND_3 said:
Being saved means that we have to die without being in mortal sin. We begin by repentance, Faith, and Baptism. And then after baptism we live by repentance, Faith, and Confession. That’s about the most simplest way to formulate it.
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It may take a little bit more that what you have shared.

(Matthew 7:21) “It is not those who say to me, ‘Lord, Lord’, who will enter the kingdom of Heaven but the person who does the will of My Father in Heaven. When the day comes many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, cast out demons in your name, work many miracles in your name?’ Then I shall tell them to their faces: I have never known you; away from me, you evil men!”
 
Smile1934 said:
It may take a little bit more that what you have shared.

(Matthew 7:21) “It is not those who say to me, ‘Lord, Lord’, who will enter the kingdom of Heaven but the person who does the will of My Father in Heaven. When the day comes many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, cast out demons in your name, work many miracles in your name?’ Then I shall tell them to their faces: I have never known you; away from me, you evil men!”
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Well, I tried to keep it concise. But as we know, its like trying to give a 2 dollar answer for a 2 million dollar question.👍
 
Smile1934 said:
It may take a little bit more that what you have shared.

(Matthew 7:21) “It is not those who say to me, ‘Lord, Lord’, who will enter the kingdom of Heaven but the person who does the will of My Father in Heaven. When the day comes many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, cast out demons in your name, work many miracles in your name?’ Then I shall tell them to their faces: I have never known you; away from me, you evil men!”
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This is very true. Many forget about this very important saying that Jesus said.
 
Greetings and God’s Blessings,

I often asked myself this question. Is it by our actions or by the religion we profess? It is both. I stumbled upon this scripture quote. I hope it sheds some light because it has for me. This is true religion and faith:

26 And if any man think himself to be religious, not bridling his tongue but deceiving his own heart, this man’s religion is vain. 27 Religion clean and undefiled before God and the Father is this: to visit the fatherless and widows in their tribulation and to keep one’s self unspotted from this world.James 1:26-27
 
humble_maid said:
Greetings and God’s Blessings,

I often asked myself this question. Is it by our actions or by the religion we profess? It is both. I stumbled upon this scripture quote. I hope it sheds some light because it has for me. This is true religion and faith:

26 And if any man think himself to be religious, not bridling his tongue but deceiving his own heart, this man’s religion is vain. 27 Religion clean and undefiled before God and the Father is this: to visit the fatherless and widows in their tribulation and to keep one’s self unspotted from this world.James 1:26-27
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Just to add something along that trend of thought.

(Matthew 25:31-46)"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
"Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
"Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
"The King will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.’
"Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
"They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
"He will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
 
Thank you Smile 1934 for this wonderful scripture. I taught it to my students in catechism. Everyone should know these scriptures; it says so much about charity and salvation.

God Bless
 
Dear humble maid,

The Catholic Church uses a very objective criteria to establish a sort of bottom line to the question “How are we saved”?. That bottom line is this: if one is baptised, they are a member of the the body of Christ, the Catholic Church, for as St. Paul says in his Epistle to the Galatians , “As many of you as have been baptised into Christ have put on Christ” (Gal. 3: 27). Again our Lord said, in his conversation with Nicodemus in the quiet of an Eastern night, “Truly, Truly, I say unto you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit , he cannot enter the kingdom of God” (St. John 3: 5). So the *bottom line * line answer to the question “How are we saved?” is baptism. Needless to say ones baptism must be accompanied by a vibrant personal faith that “works by love”. Indeed this is where the Sacrament of Confirmation supplements or , if you please, makes sure our baptism by affording us an opportunity to affirm our faith in the Gospel and to subsequently live faithful lives, “working (our) salvation out with fear and tembling” (PhiIip. 2: 12).

Baptism was instituted by Christ for the eradication of original sin, and to restore that grace forfeited by our first parents which is absolutely necessary for the attaining of our eternal destiny (St. John 3: 5). This is not to reduce the Sacrament of Baptism to a sort of automatic, quasi-magical rite that is totally disconnected with a living faith, but to acknowledge the power inherent in the initiatory sacrament. In short we Catholics believe the sacraments work; a person who is baptised is received into the body of Christ period.
We unashamedly believe in baptismal regeneration and make no apology for doing so because it is unequivocally enunciated in both Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition.

Salvation iteself, of course, is a life-long, faith-full process. We are baptised as infants, or as adults, then we must strive to live up to the arduous demands of Christian discipleship, this entails growing in grace and giving dillegence to make our calling and election sure. To this end we need to receive the sacraments which confirm and consolidate the life of Christ within us. Moreover we do not consent to the unbiblical Calvinistic dogma of the indefectability of grace (popularly known as once saved always saved); Catholics do not believe that there can be any cast iron guarantees. Yes, we trust utterly in the saving work of Christ, however we believe that it is simply not possible for any one to know with certainty that they are saved eternally because God alone is our judge. We can if we are earnestly striving to live a devout have a hopeful confidence of Heaven, but never a presumptious and false assurance.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait
 
Portrait said:
Dear humble maid,

The Catholic Church uses a very objective criteria to establish a sort of bottom line to the question “How are we saved”?. That bottom line is this: if one is baptised, they are a member of the the body of Christ, the Catholic Church, for as St. Paul says in his Epistle to the Galatians , “As many of you as have been baptised into Christ have put on Christ” (Gal. 3: 27). Again our Lord said, in his conversation with Nicodemus in the quiet of an Eastern night, “Truly, Truly, I say unto you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit , he cannot enter the kingdom of God” (St. John 3: 5). So the *bottom line * line answer to the question “How are we saved?” is baptism. Needless to say ones baptism must be accompanied by a vibrant personal faith that “works by love”. Indeed this is where the Sacrament of Confirmation supplements or , if you please, makes sure our baptism by affording us an opportunity to affirm our faith in the Gospel and to subsequently live faithful lives, “working (our) salvation out with fear and tembling” (PhiIip. 2: 12).

Baptism was instituted by Christ for the eradication of original sin, and to restore that grace forfeited by our first parents which is absolutely necessary for the attaining of our eternal destiny (St. John 3: 5). This is not to reduce the Sacrament of Baptism to a sort of automatic, quasi-magical rite that is totally disconnected with a living faith, but to acknowledge the power inherent in the initiatory sacrament. In short we Catholics believe the sacraments work; a person who is baptised is received into the body of Christ period.
We unashamedly believe in baptismal regeneration and make no apology for doing so because it is unequivocally enunciated in both Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition.

Salvation iteself, of course, is a life-long, faith-full process. We are baptised as infants, or as adults, then we must strive to live up to the arduous demands of Christian discipleship, this entails growing in grace and giving dillegence to make our calling and election sure. To this end we need to receive the sacraments which confirm and consolidate the life of Christ within us. Moreover we do not consent to the unbiblical Calvinistic dogma of the indefectability of grace (popularly known as once saved always saved); Catholics do not believe that there can be any cast iron guarantees. Yes, we trust utterly in the saving work of Christ, however we believe that it is simply not possible for any one to know with certainty that they are saved eternally because God alone is our judge. We can if we are earnestly striving to live a devout have a hopeful confidence of Heaven, but never a presumptious and false assurance.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait
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I only stumbled upon your post today. Thank you for reminding me that the church is the gateway to the Kingdom of God. I would like to include that in His infinite mercy He will not forget the righteous souls.
 
humble_maid said:
Greetings and God’s Blessings,

I often asked myself this question. Is it by our actions or by the religion we profess? It is both. I stumbled upon this scripture quote. I hope it sheds some light because it has for me. This is true religion and faith:

26 And if any man think himself to be religious, not bridling his tongue but deceiving his own heart, this man’s religion is vain. 27 Religion clean and undefiled before God and the Father is this: to visit the fatherless and widows in their tribulation and to keep one’s self unspotted from this world.James 1:26-27
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Great post! What I believe that it ultimately boils down to is that everyone should be a truth seeker, and to follow it wherever it may lead us. That being said, I do believe that the Church is where the fullness of Truth will be found, that is all of Jesus Christ is found in the Church that He established. But on the otherhand, those who are not able to find that truth in its fullness will be judged fairly by God, and their efforts will be rewarded even if they fell short of finding the fullness of the Truth. I think many people restrain themselves from embracing the fullness of Truth and will submit to it in portions only so they can stay within a comfort zone or hold on to some worldly things that conflict with the complete Truth.
 
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