How can a loving God create then condemn a homosexual being?

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A loving G-d cannot and DOES NOT condemn gay people although some people do. For some gay people, the genetic influence is probably very strong, while for others the environmental influence is. There is most likely some kind of interaction between genetics and environment, as there is in most areas of people’s lives and personalities. We still know comparatively little with regard to human sexuality, sexual drives, attractions, orientation, and fantasies.
 
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If a woman takes a drug for nausea, let’s say, and the baby is born with deformed limbs, would you still say that God created them that way?

If a pregnant woman abuses drugs and the baby is born with fetal alcohol syndrome, would you say God created them that way?

Can you make the claim that God is loving according to some people, then when we see these things, I’m going to conclude God is not loving?

Today we have decades of women using the birth control pill and peeing all that estrogen out. We have plastics that leach synthetic estrogen into the environment and plastic seems to live forever. Do you think there aren’t consequences to this pollution of estrogen into the environment?
 
@TheLittleLady, thank you for posting that Catechism…Im starting to think I might need to actually read it for myself… like the bible if you want to know what God wants read the instructions.

and I wish preple would stop comparing being homosexuality to a pedophilia or abuser… if you dont know the difference then that is beyond sad. I will pray for you.

People who were born homosexual do have a very heavy cross to carry. Why God did that to some of His children, burden them with such a heavy cross. But homosexuals arent the only ones with them.

Maybe God just wants us to remember He’d never gives us more then we can handle. Maybe God is saying trust Me for you are mine.

Just remember God forgives the sins of everyone.
 
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Are you saying that the pollution of estrogen in the environment is somehow related to an increase in homosexuality?
 
Often there’s a question of ‘Can a loving God…’ fill in the blank.
We know that God loves us when we look at Christ on the cross. He laid his life down to open heaven for us.

All of us have crosses to bear. Some of us live only a short time, some of us longer. Lift your eyes to the cross, remember Heaven is our true home.
 
There is not necessarily a gay gene but perhaps a hormonal imbalance. In medicine, predispositions can be triggered by environmental influences but they are not always. And sometimes the genetic (or hormonal) predisposition undergoes a maturational process apart from the environment. So the person is, technically, not born gay, but has the predisposing factors which make them susceptible to becoming gay.
 
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I’ve seen some shows, articles on that. However, it seems that there would be a huge motivator to keep that quiet because population control and birth control access and abortion world wide is the big ticket item with lots of money going toward that.

There are people who know but they are staying quiet. It would be logical to conclude that we have been exposed to a lot of estrogen even from the womb.

Some time ago they discovered that heating food in a plastic container or using a plastic cover caused chemicals to leach into the food. Is that something brought up in the media? Are we reminded of that?

It’s all very suspicious.
 
What about female homosexuality? Is this also due to estrogen pollution?
 
I find it highly unlikely that the early Church embraced gay people, let alone pedophiles. Where did you get this information?
 
Does God love everyone? Ask yourself that and then ask me if the early church embraced all.
 
Yes, G-d loves everyone; but I am doubtful the early Church, which is not G-d, did. Just examine the history of the Church to find out.
 
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Getting married at an early age is not the same as pedophilia. Yes, pedophiles are also human like everyone else, but their behavior is quite problematic.
 
The best-established facts in relation to homosexuality point to developmental-psychological, not genetic or physiological, causation. The efforts of the last few decades to find evidence to support a biological theory have made it more doubtful than ever that such evidence will be found. In contrast, many studies have shown that the most significant factor which correlates with homosexuality is “gender nonconformity” or same-sex peer isolation. Another factor closely associated with homosexuality is an imbalance in parentchild interaction, notably forms of over-influence of the oppositesex parent in combination with a deficient relationship with the same-sex parent. The third well-established correlation is with inherent, rather than discrimination-produced, “neuroticism” or emotional instability/immaturity. Structured around this pivotal evidence from statistical as well as clinical research, homosexuality is explained here as a character neurosis. Characteristics of this nOn the Psychogenesis of Homosexuality
Gerard.J.M van den Aardweg - eurotic character syndrome include personality immaturity, self-victimization, and selfcenteredness.

This syndrome affects not only the emotional but also the moral and spiritual dimensions of the psyche and if indulged leads to generalized personality deterioration. Therapeutically, a holistic approach, simultaneously addressing the emotional, moral, and spiritual components of the psyche, offers the best opportunity for overcoming homosexuality. De-egocentrization and personality maturity, including the development of mature manhood/ womanhood, are the goals of therapy. © 2011 by the Catholic Medical Association. All rights reserved. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1179/002436311803888267
 
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I think chemicals have changed us. Like I said, it’s all very suspicious.
Population control people would be very happy if a side effect is men pairing with men and women pairing with women. They would be motivated to promote that this is a variation of normal.
 
The evidence that you cite is really a throwback to the heyday of Freudian psychoanalysis in the 1940’s and 1950’s. The current position points more toward biological and genetic evidence, sometimes (but not always) interacting with certain environmental influences. The Catholic Medical Association is apparently not up-to-date in its findings, whether intentionally or unintentionally.

Why are you (and others) so opposed to a biological predispositional causation of homosexuality? I don’t understand what the conflict is between this evidence and Catholicism.
 
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We all have a fallen nature. This isn’t news to anyone, is it?

What I do, I do not understand. For I do not do what I want, but I do what I hate. Now if I do what I do not want, I concur that the law is good. So now it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. For I know that good does not dwell in me, that is, in my flesh. The willing is ready at hand, but doing the good is not. For I do not do the good I want, but I do the evil I do not want. Now if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. So, then, I discover the principle that when I want to do right, evil is at hand. For I take delight in the law of God, in my inner self, but I see in my members another principle at war with the law of my mind, taking me captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. Miserable one that I am! Who will deliver me from this mortal body? Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Therefore, I myself, with my mind, serve the law of God but, with my flesh, the law of sin.

Rom. 7:15-25
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I find it highly unlikely that the early Church embraced gay people, let alone pedophiles. Where did you get this information?
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The early Church absolutely did embrace people who had done things in their past that the Church could not condone:

Put to death, then, the parts of you that are earthly: immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and the greed that is idolatry. Because of these the wrath of God is coming upon the disobedient. By these you too once conducted yourselves, when you lived in that way.
Col. 3:5-7

You will find no evidence in Holy Scriptures that there was anyone rejected for what they had done in their past. No, the Cross was considered more than sufficient to wipe away any sin in one’s past and to eventually defeat any propensities towards sin that one had.
 
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Do you know anything about this doctor and his extensive research, as well as his serving and helping the person who is homosexual?
Having met many homosexual and lesbians they surly have this woundedness- “erotic character syndrome include personality immaturity, self-victimization, and selfcenteredness.” From Dr. Gerard van den Aardweg
The pity party will never bring a person to the fullness of life and that is my opinion.
Regarding not being up to date, experience, data and wisdom will always be profitable. For some the bible, the Torah are out of date but not for a believer.
 
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Can you please stop comparing a homosexual with a paedophile. That is highly insulting comparison.

And if you dont know that remeber a paedophile is more likely to be a heterosexual, then homosexual.

Can’t we have a very important, intelligent coversation without being in insulting.

Even if you think homosexuality is a moral sin. Do not compare them to some who purposly choose to hurt someone else for their own satisfaction.
 
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