How can bread and wine turn into the blood and flesh of Jesus, but still taste as bread and wine

[Nicea325]

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Originally Posted by Cristiano
We literally believe that at consecration we have the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus Christ that just appear as bread and wine. It is not a symbolic thing simply because it is real.

User124:
If it’s real, why it does not taste as blood and flesh.

Because it does not need to taste like blood and flesh to be real. Problem is that humans have human senses: taste,smell,touch,hear and visual. God is more than just human senses.

Human pride is the stumbling block for humanity. The old cliche:

If I cannot understand it,then it is false.

Spiritual Wisdom 1 Cor. 2.6-16

6 However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, 8 which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

9 But as it is written:

“Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,
Nor have entered into the heart of man
The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”[c]

10 But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. 11 ***For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? **Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. *
13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. 16 For “who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct Him?”[e] But we have the mind of Christ

 

[User124]

What’s the point of eating Jesus, blood and flesh?
If this bread (flesh) and wine (blood) are truly for Jesus, does he feel pain when we eat them, why they do not end? Sincerly, I’m honest to know your understandings about this.

 

[peace2u2]

What’s the point of eating Jesus, blood and flesh?
If this bread (flesh) and wine (blood) are truly for Jesus, does he feel pain when we eat them, why they do not end? Sincerly, I’m honest to know your understandings about this.

Its not for Jesus. Its for us.

The Eucharist (the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity) of Jesus Christ is a gift from God. God desires to share everything with you because He loves you, probably more than you will or can ever imagine or comprehend. He willed YOU into creation because He LOVES you.

The Eucharist is a visible sign of His love for us and we consume it or eat it because He gives this gift to us and it is meant to be eaten and consumed so that our very being is transformed into His likeness and so we share in Jesus’ Divinity.

Jesus desires to transform our hearts of stone into hearts of flesh that are compassionate and loving and into people who will see the face of Jesus in everyone we meet and hopefully we will be able to go out into the world and do His work and spread His love around and be faithful witnesses to how He has changed our lives.

No Jesus does not feel pain when we celebrate Mass and receive The Eucharist.

What do you mean by “why they do no end”. Do you mean why do we have to keep doing it and why not only once. If so, the reason is because He said so to do this in remembrance of me until He comes again.

I was told that The Real Presence of Jesus in The Eucharist once we consume Him lasts for about 15 minutes.

 

[TheDoctor]

What’s the point of eating Jesus, blood and flesh?

The point my friend is to enter into an intimate physical communion with God, the creator of the world. God needs nothing from us, yet we need everything from Him. Jesus, the pascal lamb of the New Testament, is the one willingly sacrificed out of love for us to make us right with God. Out of that love He gives us the greatest gift - Himself - in both his forms (Jesus is fully human and fully divine, hence He shares His human nature, His body, blood and soul and His divine nature with us). Here is some reading from the Catechism that may help: vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p2s2c1a3.htm

 

[TheDoctor]

If this bread (flesh) and wine (blood) are truly for Jesus, does he feel pain when we eat them, why they do not end? Sincerly, I’m honest to know your understandings about this.

At the resurrection, Jesus human body is transformed into his transfigured body. It is this transfigured body that we consume. Jesus feels no pain, only love for use. Love so wide he willingly died on the cross to redeem you and I.

 

[504Katrin]

If it’s real, why it does not taste as blood and flesh.

I’m vegetarian too, but how can you know that what happened was because of the communion and not any other reason? And why that taste does not happen to everyone who take communion?

Because I just went back to my pew after having received and to suddenly have the taste of blood in your mouth is very strange to say the least.

I don’t know if it has happened to others. Maybe it has happened (like JGMendes4049) and people don’t speak up for whatever reason. This is the first time I mentioned it, I never talked about it before. Sometimes I’m in an “all open” mood, and I respond giving very intimate answers.

It has never happened to me again, only this one time. But something else happened - also in regards to the Eucharist - and maybe I’ll talk about that later.

 

[Holly3278]

Do you literally believe that wine and bread are Jesus’ blood and flesh? Why it’s not only a symbolic thing?

I most definitely believe that it is literally Jesus’ Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity. I believe that it is that and nothing but that. Transubstantiation is the doctrine of the Church which is about the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist. I don’t know how to explain it very well but basically it means that at the consecration of the sacred elements, the substance literally changes in to the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus Christ. The accidents remain and that is why it appears to be bread and wine even though in reality it is Jesus Christ, whole and entire.

 

[MarcoPolo]

What’s the point of eating Jesus, blood and flesh?
If this bread (flesh) and wine (blood) are truly for Jesus, does he feel pain when we eat them, why they do not end? Sincerly, I’m honest to know your understandings about this.

In order for Jesus to feel pain, our teeth would have to agitate his physical nerve endings. But in the Eucharist, the Real Presence is not one actualized by the laws of physics. We do not metabolize human tissue. His presence is veiled in what we call a sacrament. Sensibly speaking, the physical properties of the Eucharist are contained under the appearances of bread and wine. Jesus does not feel pain because his strands of nerve endings are not physically being chewn.

Others gave answers about communing with Christ by way of the sign of consuming him sacramentally. Also, we commune with the whole Church. The sign of bread contains many grains of wheat that come together to form a whole piece of bread. In the same way, we as members of the Church come together to become a singular form, a single body (cf. Ecclesia de Eucharistia, 23). The consumption of Christ under the species of bread helps us see the underlying realities like this that are at work. There are other signs, but hopefully you get the idea. The sacrament effects what it signifies. Just like how we use water in baptism because it must signify the washing of sin. Etc…

 

[Tampa_Dave]

Christ said it was so. I take Him literally at His Word.

 

[Cristiano]

What’s the point of eating Jesus, blood and flesh?
If this bread (flesh) and wine (blood) are truly for Jesus, does he feel pain when we eat them, why they do not end? Sincerly, I’m honest to know your understandings about this.

We are not eating Jesus blood and flesh we are receiving the living God in his totality, that is called theophagy. Theophagy is necessary for us in order to let God to share his divinity with us, that it is the way He choose to do it and so we follow upon his instructions.

Jesus does not feel any pain because his physical reality is different from ours. We are presently bound by laws of physics that are local to us, God is not bound by those same laws.

 

[Vico]

Do you literally believe that wine and bread are Jesus’ blood and flesh? Why it’s not only a symbolic thing?

One must understand transubstantiation. Senses can perceive only accidents, and consecration changes only the substance. Only the mind knows the substance.

One may be repelled by the idea of receiving molecular flesh and blood rather than molecular bread and wine, but there is no need for concern.

Before: bread substance + bread species
Before: wine substance + wine species

After: Body & Blood of Christ substance + bread species
After: Body & Blood of Christ substance + wine species

In CCC 1333 states that “the signs of bread and wine become, in a way surpassing understanding, the Body and Blood of Christ; they continue also to signify the goodness of creation.”

So the bread and wine signify and continue to signify the goodness of creation, yet in a mysterious way, the bread and wine become the Body and Blood of Christ.

CCC 1413 By the consecration the transubstantiation of the bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ is brought about. Under the consecrated species of bread and wine Christ himself, living and glorious, is present in a true, real, and substantial manner: his Body and his Blood, with his soul and his divinity (cf. Council of Trent: DS 1640; 1651).

Council of Trent, 13th session:CANON lI.-- If any one saith, that, in the sacred and holy sacrament of the Eucharist, the substance of the bread and wine remains conjointly with the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ, and denieth that wonderful and singular conversion of the whole substance of the bread into the Body, and of the whole substance of the wine into the Blood – the species Only of the bread and wine remaining – which conversion indeed the Catholic Church most aptly calls Transubstantiation; let him be anathema.

CANON III. – If any one denieth, that, in the venerable sacrament of the Eucharist, the whole Christ is contained under each species, and under every part of each species, when separated; let him be anathema.
history.hanover.edu/early/trent/ct13ce.htm

 

[User124]

Thanks to all for your answers.