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TrueLight
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He clarified somewhat on post 11.
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Peter_J
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Significant, yes, in the sense of significant to figuring out which sui iuris church he would belong to if he became Catholic again. If you see what I mean.
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Vico
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I was thinking practically such as return to the Catholic faith, it is possible without a profession of faith. Depending upon the amount of prior religious education, it may or may not require absolution. It sometimes happens that the parents do not give proper education to young Catholics so they never learn what they need to know about the faith. Then they are in ignorance of the laws of the Church and may be indifferent.
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ThatOrthodoxGuy
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Sorry it has taken so long with my reply:blush: Let me explain myself a little better. My parents were both raised catholic and they both were married by a catholic preist. I was baptised and recieved first holy communion. When i was 10 my parents left the catholic church and we all were baptiesd into the Russian Orthodox Church. When i said Rcc I meant roman catholic church but i would like to join the eastren catholic church. I think someone said the russian catholic church i have never heard of them?
A Catholic can partake of Communion in any Catholic parish, Western or Eastern. You are technically a Latin/Roman Catholic. Your Russian Orthodox Chrismation/Confirmation is accepted as valid by the Catholic Church. You could talk with your priest about changing from Western-Rite to Eastern-Rite. Here is an Eastern Catholic parish directory: byzcath.org/index.php/find-a-parish-mainmenu-111?catid=6
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GaryTaylor
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Call and set up an appointment with the Priest to speak. From there your path should be clear.
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TrueLight
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But I thought you fell in love with the Latin liturgy and devotions?
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Peter_J
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Oh, alright. Maybe I was misunderstanding you.
I find it a little weird to think he might require absolution, but maybe that’s just me.
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lssanjose
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I think it would mean, to me, to reestablish communion with the Church of Rome. I don’t remember where I read it, but technically if you miss three divine liturgies in a row, it’s grounds for excommunication. so it wouldn’t hurt to reestablish that communion, with a peace of mind.
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Peter_J
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That makes sense. Perhaps it’s more a matter of terminology – perhaps I should have said that I wouldn’t have used the word absolution.
If one has broken communion with Rome, wouldn’t it make sense to confess that sin? It is the sin of schism which is grave (even if there was no intent). How could one be formally restored to communion with Rome if one hasn’t confessed the error of leaving?
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Cristiano
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It’s called repenting of schism. If one breaks communion with Rome, it is the grave sin of schism (though to be a mortal sin one must have intent and I doubt that he intended to break communion with the Church that Christ established). It should still be confessed (like all grave sins). He would then have peace of mind and be formally united with the Church that he left.Wow that is really a legalistic approach!
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lssanjose
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Well, I don’t know about legalistic. But how serious it takes the mystical/physical communion of believers, and saints/angels with God, the creator. This is why there’s typically only one Divine Liturgy offered, on Sunday. Heck, if I need to, I’ll listen to a Divine Liturgy, online (which I’ve done). At the same time, I’ll go to a Novus Ordo, because of the physical communion.Wow that is really a legalistic approach!
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Cristiano
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I understand schism, I do not understand why missing three Divine Liturgies in a raw will incur into excommunication, as far as I understand in the Eastern Christianity there is no obligation to attend Mass on Sundays. In the Latin Church it is simply a mortal sin that needs to be confessed but it does not incur into excommunication. Maybe we could start a different thread to discuss it. I apologize for highjacking this one.
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lssanjose
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It’s a matter of habit, and practice. Provided, you don’t miss those services in a row, out of convenience. That’s why it’s important to have a spiritual father, who’ll discern the gravity of one’s transgression(s).
"And while we are there we eat the Heavenly Bread, Jesus Christ, in Holy Communion. Jesus said, ‘If you do not eat the Flesh of the Son of Man or drink His Blood you have no life in you.’
NO life in you. These are serious words from the Word of God Himself. (Perhaps it now makes sense to us as to why an apostolic canon and a canon of the Sixth Ecumenical Council advise that a person who misses three Sunday divine liturgies in a row — assuming an person is not sick or traveling — is in need of Holy Confession in order to unite themselves again to the Church)." - Fr Michael Shanbour
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Peter_J
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Hi Zekariya.
So breaking communion with Rome is a grave sin? So much for believing everything that Orthodoxy teaches, eh?
So breaking communion with Rome is a grave sin? So much for believing everything that Orthodoxy teaches, eh?
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lssanjose
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I’m thinking Zekariya (and he can correct me, if I’m wrong) is thinking from the standpoint of Roman Catholicism. As a side note, I was told by my friend if I was to be brought into Orthodoxy I wouldn’t have to renounce Roman doctrine… so it’s not a matter of breaking communion with Rome having much, if any, bearing on the canon law within Orthodoxy.
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