How can I keep (or grow in) faith during great suffering?

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How can I grow in faith during great suffering? I’m praying for healing every day, given what the Bible says about it, but every day that my petitions are not granted is a new occasion to be tempted to despair and to doubt the truthfulness of the Church (who compiled the Bible and promulgates its veracity), and hence doubt the existence of God. I quit going to Daily Mass because I finally got sick of the suffering caused by the transit and the failed hopes after receiving the Eucharist. It was more than I could bear.

Similarly, before that I quit praying the Rosary and the Divine Office and sitting silently before the Tabernacle, because I was tired of the silence (I can recall no communication from God in any form) and the apparent fruitlessness of my time spent praying. In short, the more I seek God, the more apparent His absence is.

Now all I do is:

  1. *]attend Mass on Sundays, offering up my sufferings and praying for their cessation
    *]read daily excerpts from the Bible every morning, usually before I do or read anything else
    *]pray petitionary prayer (requesting the intercession of two venerable people, and sometimes interceding for others myself), particularly for healing
    *]try to thank God for minor blessings throughout the day (when things work out in my favor, e.g. getting a convenient parking spot for my bicycle or catching a green light during transit)
    *]talk to God at various moments throughout the day, e.g. when something particularly delights, frustrates, or worries me

    To clarify my situation, my suffering is so severe that it has made me suicidal*, since many of my problems only God can heal (literally, there is no cure for them). I am seeking medical care for depression, but I see this at futile, since they are taking a symptomatic approach (e.g. medicine to induce a drowsy apathetic stupor to decrease suicidal thoughts) whereas my depression is in fact situational: I am sad and wanting to die because of my problems, not because of a chemical imbalance. Solve the problems the depression will vanish. Regrettably, it seems to take time to convince physicians of this, especially when my native language is a difficult second language for them, and vice versa. The psychiatrist promised assistance in helping me find solutions to many of my problems, but the worst of them are incurable, as I’ve said.

    Fr. Serpa has advised me to contemplate the Passion as evidence of God’s love for me, but I don’t see in it what he does: I see instead an incomprehensible and sadistic depiction of justice. (It seems a design flaw in our species – a failure of the divine intellect – to have everyone’s damnation and redemption depend on single members, namely Adam and Jesus. Since I cannot attribute a mistake to God, I am left with the incomprehensibility of it. I read through the Quran wondering if Mohammedans were correct in their condemnation of Christianity, but Mohammedanism seems even worse and more likely flawed than Christianity.)

    I have been encouraged to see the blessings given me by others (e.g. parents, local church community) as proof of God’s love for me, and that I should be encouraged to think that He hasn’t yet healed my physical ailments for very good reasons, and regard the blessing from others as a ‘pick-me-up’-“hang in there” note from God, but there are two objections to this thinking:

    1. *]Distinct agency. It seems unreasonable to insist that everything bad humans do is from their agency (“not God”), whereas everything good that they do is from God’s agency (“not man”). (How are we to distinguish between love from God and man if all we see are man’s actions?)
      *]It seems to insult those who do not receive such blessings insofar as it implies that God doesn’t love them. (How are we to affirm God’s love for those who don’t benefit from the acts of men?)

      I’ve already read some literature on suffering from Kreeft, Lewis, and St. John Paul II, but this does not end my pain or provide emotional support: It only clarifies intellectual objections for those seeking to learn how Christian philosophy explains suffering. Perhaps I will try to get a copy of Lewis’ A Grief Observed, though, since I’ve not read it yet and have heard it’s an experiential response to suffering rather than intellectual survey of it.
      • Expressing it as a simple equation: I don’t want to continue suffering (living with) these problems + these problems have no human cure + God has not cured them = I don’t want to continue living
 
Live your faith in everything you do, love everyone, bear your sufferings in holiness, and share your life totally with God.
 
Live your faith in everything you do, love everyone, bear your sufferings in holiness, and share your life totally with God.
That is a remarkably nebulous (vague) answer, something I would expect to hear at a Unitarian Universalist gathering. In response I could say, “I already do,” since you don’t mention anything more specific.
 
Hello ethereality, I cannot comprehend the depth of your suffering though I myself suffer every now and then and reach suicidal points… so I will just share with you what I think of when I suffer… whether it will help you are not is another question.

I would like to address your two intellectual observations, and I believe you are very wise to think carefully about things instead of settle for empty platitudes.

In your first observation, you take note that ascribing the kindnesses of people to God’s mercy makes no sense if we do not ascribe the cruelties of people to God’s doing as well.

To this I would say the action does come from the people… the impulse does not (indeed, whence come our impulses? I do not choose to feel the impulse to kill myself, it arises in me like noxious gas arising from the depths of a well, its source I cannot fathom–nor can I discern the cause of my impulse to reply to you…)

We do not HAVE to act upon our impulses, as I am sure you know. Some impulse may be inspired by demons, by God, by our habits. Some may be instinct (DNA at work)…

but overall, I would say that if you assume God is provident He knew what impulses people would have in what situations and so he arranged everything in such a way that these people would come together… even the evil impulses… to create a harmony incapable of being truly witnessed till the end of one’s life… or the end of the world (just think of books you might read, fiction books… and how things come together–for good or for bad–none of which you could have guessed from the beginning or in the middle. But in fact it even happens like this in real life)

In addition, I do believe that mean, evil, cruel people who do not “bless” you are in fact the ones blessing us the most… depending on how you define blessing. So I recommend the prayer, A Prayer for One’s Enemies - by St Nicolai of Zica. It is very interesting.

No doubt you will find some objection to the above claims, and I encourage you to keep thinking and never settle for less than the truth. I would love to hear your disappointments towards my response.

Your second observation is based on the assumption that blessing = comfort (e.g., people who have plenty of food are blessed whereas people who are starving are not). This is an annoying thing I have noticed people say… “we are so blessed to have food” and then I think, well, what about those starving people??? what are they, chopped liver?

But, over time I have come to realize… and I admit it is not easy to accept when I am in the midst of suffering, for I do not enjoy it at all… that suffering is a blessing if you choose to let it become one. For, in Eastern thought (or so I have heard, perhaps I am a nincompoop making you feel worse), suffering is a necessary part of life, bound up with life… our desires for comfort are what cause us suffering… because we assume that discomfort must be avoided. But why? Whence comes this assumption that blessing is always comfort and suffering is always undesirable? Maybe some evolutionary instinct for survival. Yet whence comes this assumption that we must follow our instincts?

Indeed, I have yet to reach a point were I actually do not mind suffering but find joy in it… I am very far from it indeed. But there are in fact people who have managed to find joy in suffering, so that its very meaning–suffering–ceases to hold true for them. It is not like suffering anymore. Perhaps such people are masochists or insane or have discovered a hidden truth that we keep overlooking for some unknown reason.

The thing that must change… is not our suffering, it is our perspective of suffering (hypocrite! i say to myself… it is a long and weary road to meet suffering with joy)

Anyway, I thought I would share some of these quotes/blog posts with you that no doubt you will not be impressed by.

“God is infinitely good and wise. He shows His goodness towards you by sending you crosses. The more bitter your pains, the more meritorious they are. Every cross is a blessing from Heaven, a blessing which surpasses all the suffering of the world. If one were able to understand the full value of crosses, it would be a terrible torment to be deprived of them.” Fr. Paul of Moll

littlestsouls.wordpress.com/2013/07/27/suffering-how-to-make-the-greatest-evil-in-our-lives-our-greatest-happiness/

littlestsouls.wordpress.com/2013/05/01/consoling-revelations-about-suffering/

littlestsouls.wordpress.com/2014/01/22/15-reasons-to-suffer-with-love/

littlestsouls.wordpress.com/2014/09/22/something-to-consider-when-you-suffer/

Now how could it be the almighty God with his divine intellect made us stupid enough to hate suffering when it is in truth meant to be a great joy? I have no clue. I have no clue. I will let you know if I get any ideas; I’m serious.
 
No one ever agrees with me, but I really feel everything is random and some people get hit with more (bleep) than others. And there is no reason.So that’s why some people suffer more than others.

I mean, that 2/3 of the world that goes to sleep every night hungry.

People with horrible incurable diseases like nerve pain or fibromyalgia…

I’m suffering a lot, and have so for years. I don’t much like life. I have thought of knocking myself off via certain suicide methods that would be good and reliable,(a pretty sure guarantee) of death. Yet, I always felt God would not want me to do that. I look forward to my eventual demise.

You are wise: you can tell that you own particular depression is situational rather than chemical. Mine was chemical, and I had to live from 1963 to 1986 knowing that a drug could have helped me, but it had not been invented yet!

You depressing situation seems to be horrible pain. Please, cling to the Lord!! It is the only thing that ever got me through all my lousy years. Do go to mass and get Communion. Pray to the Lord. In your morning Bible readings. You still sound like you love the Lord and want that personal relationship with him. You don’t need philosophy, unless those kinds of books speak to you. They don’t to me…:sleep: but everyone’s different.😃

Just hold onto God even though you may feel like a kitten caught in the rinse cycle. Even when you get envious of some guy whose life is on Easy Street and you say why me? Why me? Bad luck, pure and simple. There’s no answer and there’s no plan. And there’s God. Please hold on to him. It will be the most important and wonderful thing you ever do.
 
Dear Ethereality:

It would be nice if we did what our faith tells us, and then bingo, God responds to our satisfaction. True faith in God is when we are not answered, brought to the point of despair and we pray "God please give me the grace of perseverance, you know that I am fragile, I don’t want to suffer, I don’t like it, it makes me sad, discouraged, and fearful, and I wouldn’t wish it on a dog. I’m not like some who were blessed with the desire to suffer much, in union with your own sufferings. I even see this as barbaric, I don’t understand.

Those that were blessed with this desire had one thing in common, a tremendous love for God, and this comes only from the Holy Spirit, the giver of all gifts. And Jesus is the one who gives it, in union with the Father. This is your real need. Are you seeking God for what He alone can do for you, or are you seeking God for Himself, your greatest need? Trial bring you to His feet to make this discovery. How is true love proven? And what is the ultimate purpose of life if not to be united to God eternally? And shouldn’t that be the prime motive of all our experiences, and actions? Lord I love you, help me in my lack of faith, hope, and love. Grant me your love and peace, not because I’m worthy of it, but because you are Love itself and merciful.

Does true love cast out fear: True love remains in spite of fear. It is said that the Blessed Mother would have taken the place of Jesus on the cross because of her love for her Son.
You are drawing wrong conclusion about Christianity because you depend too much on your own thinking and understanding, which I can see is limited regarding the faith. You see Christianity as flawed, that says a lot.

Have you ever had an encounter with Christ? Do you really believe He loves you? Died for you? If you don’t why don’t you ask Him for this encounter, for how can you love someone you do not know? I had this encounter, and so have others of the faith, and they can produce spiritual, and physical healing, as God wills. They do produce a greater love for God, in Jesus Christ. Pray to the the Father the best you can, to release His Holy Spirit in you in the name of Jesus Christ, who merited this grace for you, and don’t give up! You are in great need of a deep and true relationship with Jesus, God-man and Redeemer. God bless you abundantly.
 
Fr. Serpa has advised me to contemplate the Passion as evidence of God’s love for me, but I don’t see in it what he does: I see instead an incomprehensible and sadistic depiction of justice. (It seems a design flaw in our species – a failure of the divine intellect – to have everyone’s damnation and redemption depend on single members, namely Adam and Jesus. Since I cannot attribute a mistake to God, I am left with the incomprehensibility of it. I read through the Quran wondering if Mohammedans were correct in their condemnation of Christianity, but Mohammedanism seems even worse and more likely flawed than Christianity.)
Hi ethereality, I believe Fr. Serpa’s advice is 100% on the money. I believe your reaction to it indicates much.
1 Corinthians 1:23:
23 but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles,
Were Christ to live, teach, and perform miracles for thirty-three years longer, it would not suffice for all He accomplished during His Passion.

St Thomas Aquinas -

*"The Passion of Christ is sufficient to serve as a guide and model for our entire life. For all those who wish to lead a perfect life, they need do nothing more than to despise what Christ despised on the Cross, and to accept what Christ accepted. On the Cross, we find the example of every virtue.” *

Jesus to St. Faustina -

There is more merit to one hour of meditation on My sorrowful Passion than there is to a whole year of flagellation that draws blood; the contemplation of My painful wounds is of great profit to you, and it brings Me great joy. (Diary, 369)

It is in My Passion that you must seek light and strength. (Diary, 654)

I give great graces to souls who meditate devoutly on My Passion. (Diary, 737)

I would like to share with you the three following books (and in that order) which I believe will help you greatly in understanding (The first two are very short books) -

From Sinai to Calvary -
loveandmercy.org/Eng-FSC-Reg.pdf
(Roman Catholic Imprimatur)

The Passion -
loveandmercy.org/Eng-TP-Reg.pdf
(Roman Catholic Imprimatur)

The Dolorous Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ by Anne Catherine Emmerich-
jesus-passion.com/DOLOROUS_PASSION_OF_OUR_LORD_JESUS_CHRIST.htm
(Roman Catholic Imprimatur and Nihil Obstat)
Jesus to Catalina:
The Passion - loveandmercy.org/Eng-TP-Reg.pdf

**Contemplate My wounds and see if there is anyone who has suffered as much as I, to show their love…

Contemplate for a moment these bloodstained hands and feet… This naked body, covered with wounds, with urine, and blood. Dirty… This head punctured by sharp thorns, soaked in sweat, full of dust, and covered in Blood…

Contemplate your Jesus, hanging on the Cross, without being able to make the slightest movement… naked, without fame, without honor, without liberty…

Contemplate Me in the image of the Christ that weeps and bleeds. There and in this way the world has Me.**
http://s24.postimg.org/s91lh9u91/Crucifixion.jpg
Jesus to Catalina:
I Have Given My Life for You - loveandmercy.org/Eng-IHG-Reg.pdf

**To redeem all of mankind, a child’s cry, a moan, a single tear of Mine would have been enough… Would you have understood My Love in the same way? If with so many great proofs you still take so long to accept it, what would have caused you to believe in My Love, if I had limited Myself to what seemed paltry? …

It is because of all this that you must believe in Love, principally, in My Love …

Only by going beyond the limit of “what is necessary” would many eyes be opened to My Love.**
Jesus to St. Faustina -

Remember My Passion, and if you do not believe My words, at least believe My wounds. (Diray, 379)
St. Faustina:
Diary of Saint Maria Faustina Kowalska - liturgicalyear.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/divine-mercy-in-my-soul.pdf

I saw the Lord, all covered with wounds; and He said to me, Look at whom you have espoused. I understood the meaning of these words and answered the Lord, “Jesus, I love You more when I see You wounded and crushed with suffering like this than if I saw You in majesty.” Jesus asked, Why? I replied, “Great majesty terrifies me, little nothing that I am, and Your wounds draw me to Your Heart and tell me of Your great love for me.” After this conversation there was silence. I fixed my gaze upon His sacred wounds and felt happy to suffer with Him. I suffered, and yet I did not suffer, because I felt happy to know the depth of His love, and the hour passed like a minute. (Diary, 252)
Jesus to Catalina:
From Sinai to Calvary - loveandmercy.org/Eng-FSC-Reg.pdf
  1. Then He addressed me, saying: **“In this profound pain which causes My sight to grow darker to the point that I can no longer see clearly those beings which I love and who remain at the foot of My agony, I know that Love has conquered, that it will conquer forever
    …
  2. “It is precisely because of that boundless love which, in the midst of My unfathomable suffering, I did not lose confidence in My Father. But rather, I was being overcome by immense joy in knowing that I was fulfilling His Will and, thus, demonstrating My Love for Him and for all mankind.” **
If you don’t have time to read the books I mentioned above, than simply the first one ‘From Sinai to Calvary’ I believe will help greatly in understanding.

Please continue to next post -
 
*Note: I am certainly not at the stage where I ‘desire’ suffering, but the following has helped me greatly in understanding, I feel I could give it a go if need be, but I certainly don’t want to. and I also believe the following quote is so very true -

littlestsouls.wordpress.com/2013/07/27/suffering-how-to-make-the-greatest-evil-in-our-lives-our-greatest-happiness/
  1. By bearing our sufferings patiently, we win the glorious crown of martyrdom. Of course, we may do all in our power to avoid or lessen our sufferings, but we cannot avoid all suffering. Therefore, it is clearly necessary for us to learn how to bear them. In a word, we must understand clearly that if we remain calm, serene and patient, suffering loses all its sting, but the moment we get excited, the smallest suffering increases a hundred fold. It is just as if we had a sore arm or leg and rubbed it violently; it would become irritated and painful; whereas, if we touch it gently, we soothe the irritation. We suffer from ill-health, from pains, headaches, rheumatism, arthritis, from accidents, from enemies. We may have financial difficulties. Some suffer for weeks in their homes, some in hospitals or nursing homes. In a word, we are in a vale of tears. Almighty God could have saved us from all suffering, but He did not do so because He knows in His infinite goodness that suffering is good for us.*
One thing I know to be true, is that those who rebel against their crosses end up simply increasing the weight of them, just like scratching an itch only makes it more itchy.

And I know,* ‘easy to say all this when your not suffering like I am’* and that’s a very fair thing to say, so I don’t know how I would be going if I were in your shoes, all I can do is give you what I can above (mostly from someone who has suffered ‘Christ’) in the hope to help ease your pain and pray for you (which I will).

I hope this has helped.

God Bless

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
Now how could it be the almighty God with his divine intellect made us stupid enough to hate suffering when it is in truth meant to be a great joy? I have no clue. I have no clue. I will let you know if I get any ideas; I’m serious.
Me too. But i’ll tell ya what, If we ever get to the stage where any suffering can be turned into a ‘joy’, than man, truly we will be free. The fear of suffering controls nearly every man (some people will do just about anything to avoid the cross), if we can conquer that, then we have truly conquered the world and become truly free.

God Bless

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
I’ll also say one other thing, I believe that this subject of suffering, knowing how to suffer such as turning it into a joy, into Christ’s Cross as described in my previous post, where He felt great joy knowing he was demonstrating His love for the father and for all of us, is the absolute pinnacle of the Christian faith, when this is mastered, I believe we will be counted among the saints.

God Bless

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
Now how could it be the almighty God with his divine intellect made us stupid enough to hate suffering when it is in truth meant to be a great joy? I have no clue. I have no clue. I will let you know if I get any ideas; I’m serious.
Answering your question, suffering is not meant to be a great joy. Suffering and pain, by definition, is when something is happening that is contrary to what we were designed for. One feels pain in one’s ankle as the body’s means of telling one not to walk on it, for example (both as a signal that something is wrong and because walking on it would make that wrong thing worse).

One can derive joy from suffering in proportion to one’s faith in the good God is bringing from it, but where does Aquinas say that is the purpose of suffering? It seems to me our response to suffering has purpose and meaning, but suffering itself, being a privation of being, doesn’t have purpose (because it doesn’t have a positive ontological existence).

I am hoping for more replies, because I have not yet received sufficient answers. I am still leading through some links provided, though.
 
Suffering for the sake of suffering makes no sense, as stated it is the bodies warning system to tell us something is physically wrong, and from that aspect it is a good thing. I have known a person who had no feeling in her lower extremities, was burned, and because she couldn’t feel developed a serious infection.

But by the grace of the Holy Spirit suffering can be transformed by great love when it is in union with God, in Jesus Christ When love supercedes suffering, and experiences union with Jesus, that union produces joy. It’s a spiritual experience which is superior to anything physical, and it is one for which we were created, union with God. This doesn’t mean that suffering is required, but knowing our fragile humanity it is inevitable due to the consequences of sin.
 
This webpage offers the good counsel to accept suffering rather than become angry, etc., to avoid even greater suffering. I didn’t see anything else to take from it, though.
This webpage it seems prudent not to read, as the quotations are strongly objectionable, if not blasphemous. I think I must stop with this quotation, until they are proven acceptable:
“I loved suffering, I the Man of Sorrows; I chose it because it makes reparation for sins when it is offered with love… when suffering is joined to love, the proofs of love given through suffering are a true reparation offered to God. It is giving God something that He does not have in His Heaven. Therefore, I chose suffering so that all My creatures, even the most miserable, like yourself, might have something precious to offer to God.” (Jesus to Sr. Mary of the Trinity)
Frank Sheed’s argument proving monotheism (I think found in Theology and Sanity) applies here to refute this idea for the same reason: Anything that God lacks implies a boundary or finiteness in God, because it would be something ‘other’ that exists separately from God, which God lacks. But God is existence itself, pure actuality as St. Thomas Aquinas teaches. Therefore this is impossible: Every good that exists must exist in God. Therefore this quotation is false, or else requires clarification from context not provided by that webpage.
 
Hello again ethereality,

Thank you for replying. I think you spoke wisely of suffering not being meant to be a great joy.

You also ask, where does Aquinas say that the purpose of suffering is to result in good? I think that is what you meant. But, while the purpose of suffering may not necessarily be goodness, why does it matter whether Aquinas said it or not? When it comes to what the truth is, don’t the ideas themselves matter more than who said them?

Here is an interesting article that you will probably find asinine, but the last paragraph made me think of the question you asked about Aquinas:
What about Romans 8:28 and Ephesians 1:11? These passages promise us that God will ultimately use even acts of evil for our good. They do not promise us that the good will outweigh the evil, nor do they require us to think that every act of evil will be used for good. Romans 8:28 in particular is a general affirmation that God is working on our behalf, using both the good and the bad to our ultimate advantage.
You say that suffering lacks positive ontological existence and therefore suffering itself cannot be purposeful, though our response to it can be. I think that is very insightful.

I found this other article you might like to read and throw tomatoes at:
christianthinktank.com/howimadeit.html

It’s about how this very intellectual man (you might like to read some of his other articles on the main page, very thoughtful person indeed he is) “made it through” life so far despite his great emotional suffering, anxiety, and depression.

And I think you already practise a lot of what that guy advises… so maybe you are on the right track after all, even if you feel like you are going in circles.

I also found that quote about God not having suffering a bit bizarre, but I shared the link anyway. I am glad to see though you found it blasphemous rather than useful, you are still thinking carefully and would not be bamboozled by its eloquence.

I’m not sure though, that just because we disagree with some parts of an article or series of quotes, that we thereby judge the rest of the article to be unworthy of our time.
 
LETTER TO THE FRIENDS OF THE CROSS
Saint Louis De Montfort
…
5. My dear Friends of the Cross, do you live in accordance with the noble title you bear? Or, at least, have you a real desire and a sincere determination to do so with the help of God’s grace, under the shelter of Christ’s Cross and of our Lady of Sorrows? Are you taking the means necessary for this? Are you walking along the true way of life, which is the narrow and stony way of Calvary? Or are you, without perhaps realizing it, on the wide road of the world which leads to perdition? Are you aware that there is a highway which is to all appearances a straight and safe road, but which really leads to eternal death?
6. Do you clearly distinguish the voice of God and his grace from that of the world and of human nature? Do you listen to the voice of God, our heavenly Father, pronouncing his three- fold malediction on all who follow the desires of the world: “Woe, woe, woe to all the people on earth;” the Father who stretches out his arms to you in loving appeal, “Come out, my chosen people,” dear friends of my Son’s Cross, away from worldlings, who have been cursed by myself, rejected by my Son, and condemned by my Holy Spirit? Beware of following their counsels, of sitting in their company, or even lingering on the road they take. Hasten away from the infamous Babylon. Listen only to the voice of my beloved Son and follow only him, whom I have given you to be your way, your truth, your life, and your model. (Ipsum audite.) “Listen to him.” Do you listen to the voice of Jesus who, burdened with his Cross, calls out to you, “Come after me; anyone who follows me will not be walking in the dark; be brave; I have conquered the world.”?

B. The Two Companies
  1. My dear brothers and sisters, there are two companies that appear before you each day: the followers of Christ and the followers of the world. Our dear Saviour’s company is on the right, climbing up a narrow road, made all the narrower by the world’s immorality. Our Master leads the way, barefooted, crowned with thorns, covered with blood, and
    laden with a heavy cross. Those who follow him, though most valiant, are only a handful, either because his quiet voice is not heard amid the tumult of the world, or because people lack the courage to follow him in his poverty, sufferings, humiliations and other crosses which his servants must carry all the days of their life.
  2. On the left hand is the company of the world or of the devil. This is far more numerous, more imposing and more illustrious, at least in appearance. Most of the fashionable people run to join it, all crowded together, although the road is wide and is continually being made wider than ever by the crowds that pour along it like a torrent. It is strewn with flowers, bordered with all kinds of amusements and attractions, and paved with gold and silver.
  3. On the right, the little groups which follow Jesus speak about sorrow and penance, prayer and indifference to worldly things. They continually encourage one another saying, “Now is the time to suffer and to mourn, to pray and do penance, to live in retirement and poverty, to humble and mortify ourselves; for those who do not possess the spirit of Christ, which is the spirit of the cross, do not belong to him. Those who belong to Christ have crucified all self-indulgent passions and desires. We must be true images
    of Christ or be eternally lost.” “Have confidence,” they say to each other. If God is on our side, within us and before us, who can be against us? He who is within us is stronger than the one who is in the world. The servant is not greater than his master. This slight and temporary distress we suffer will bring us a tremendous and everlasting glory. …
Peace
 
+JMJ+

Fr. Henri Nouwen wrote the following while he was in the depths of depression; it has helped me much, not only with coping, but even in finding joy and gratitude from pain:

Your pain, deep as it is, is connected with specific circumstances. You do not suffer in the abstract. You suffer because someone (or something) hurts you at a specific time and in a specific place. Your feelings of rejection, abandonment, and uselessness are rooted in the most concrete events. In this way all suffering is unique. This is eminently true of the suffering of Jesus. His disciples left him, Pilate condemned him, Roman soldiers tortured and crucified him.

Still, as long as you keep pointing to the specifics, you will miss the full meaning of your pain. You will deceive yourself into believing that if the people, circumstances, and events had been different, your pain would not exist. This might be partly true, but the deeper truth is that the situation which brought about your pain was simply the form in which you came in touch with the human condition of suffering. Your pain is the concrete way in which you participate in the pain of humanity.

Paradoxically, therefore, healing means moving from your pain to the pain. When you keep focusing on the specific circumstances of your pain, you easily become angry, resentful, and even vindictive. You are inclined to do something about the externals of your pain in order to relieve it; this explains why you often seek revenge. But real healing comes from realizing that your own particular pain is a share in humanity’s pain. That realization allows you to forgive your enemies and enter into a truly compassionate life. That is the way of Jesus, who prayed on the cross: “Father forgive them; they do not know what they are doing” (Luke 23: 34). Jesus’ suffering, concrete as it was, was the suffering of all humanity. His pain was the pain.

Every time you can shift your attention away from the external situation that caused your pain and focus on the pain of humanity in which you participate, your suffering becomes easier to bear. It becomes a “light burden” and an “easy yoke” (Matthew 11: 30). Once you discover that you are called to live in solidarity with the hungry, the homeless, the prisoners, the refugees, the sick, and the dying, your very personal pain begins to be converted into the pain and you find new strength to live it. Herein lies the hope of all Christians.
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You are right. Almost zero “depression” cases are “caused” by “chemical imbalance” in my personal opinion and Big Medicine knows only how to “treat” and not to “cure.”

I am lucky to have a psychiatrist who believes the medicine is not the healing factor. He uses medicine to control the symptoms. If I’m too manic to sleep, tranqulizers because missing sleep is one of the worst things to make it worse. If I’m overly delusional, maybe antipsychotic; if depressed, antidepressant. So he looks at medicine like a cast on a leg – the leg has to heal on its own; the cast just holds it together.

Some doctors tend to try to apply a diagnostic label, and then start giving you stuff that fits those labels; that has not done well for me at all because things change all the time and labels are only approximate anyway not like you have a virus or not; it’s like how much of this and how much of that makes you this or that category. So diagnostic labels are useful but if I get medicine, I like my doctor to explain what it is supposed to do, how I know if it’s working, how I know if I need to take it differently or to call him, and he is very happy because that way he can stay flexible even as I am “compliant” with him.

But they also told me I’d never actually be healed. By medicine, I wasn’t. By the action of the Holy Spirit, working through many loving people and some great guidance and lots of effort on my part, and working along with my psychiatrist the whole time, I was.

That’s because the healing is beyond their specialty, and requires health in all aspects of a whole person including physical, spiritual, emotional, mental, social, and sexual health. Confused about any one of them and it could cause problems in other areas. Listen to advice on all these areas, because some specialists tend to see and treat the whole problem from their own angle, and it isn’t always what is needed.

Suicide can be tempting because it ends mental and physical suffering, in the way we are experiencing it while alive.

But I challenge that no matter how bad it gets, if you keep the faith and don’t give up on having a “clear and quiet” mind, as my doctor called it, at some point in the future.

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