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Marxist atheists sort of have to be good, since they don’t have the skirt of religion behind which to hide, esp if they want to press their ideological points. So I think that is why many of them are attracted to environmentalism; it makes them look good, like they’re holier than the religious folks.Lynn, just like catholics aren’t all the same, neither are conservationists (environmentalists, if you prefer). You can hardly deny that there are rather a few ‘watermelon’ eco-activists out there (green on the outside, red on the inside).
We had a marxist/atheist colleague 3 decades ago. We used to argue theoretical approaches with him all the time. I’m a multi-dimensional approach scholar, and my husband tends to favor the impact of culture, while Marxists are material/economic determinists. I was actually surprised to run into this colleague some 4 years ago at an environmental criminology section at a conference – and he seemed really into it environmentalism. For one thing marxist environmentalists can blame the capitalists even more
OTOH there are conservative environmentalists. I worked with them quite a bit out in Aurora, which as you probably know is Hastert Republicano territory. They hated Hastert’s lack of environmentalism (restricted to a bit of NIMBYism) and were hoping some other Republican environmentalist would come along to vote for. Also a parish member (his wife and I were in the same St. Anne’s Society section) ran for the IL senate and won. I put him in touch with Lynn Padovan, the environmental lobbyist in Springfield and gave him a copy of NATURAL CAPITALISM by Hawken & Lovins – to which he really warmed, being a businessman. He became a wonderful Catholic, Republican, pro-business, pro-environment senator. ((Environmentalism makes sense both for businessmen and for the oppressed proletariat and for everyone else and the birds and the bees, too
BTW, see excerpts from NATURAL CAPITALISM at natcap.org , which is a wonderful source of ideas and inspiration for businesses and our whole economy becoming energy/resource efficient/conservative and getting back on the road to economic prosperity with a much lighter eco-footprint. I esp like their “tunneling through” method.
I also have a film from 3M about their 3P program, Pollution Prevention Pays. When there were some env regs going to kick in in the late 80s, the CEO put it to all the workers from janitors on up to find solutions that wouldn’t cost them an arm & a leg. What happened was they came up with solutions that not only lowered their pollution well below their intended reduction (without lowering their productivity), but have been saving 3M many $millions over the years. The CEO then asked, why weren’t we doing this before, and they told him, “it wasn’t put to us that way.” This type of thing – finding solutions that are better than ever expected and save money – happens all the time, once people start looking.