how Catholic women feel about no ordination of women

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If this is in the wrong forum, a moderator can feel free to move it. I was watching videos of “women priests” celebrating the “Mass” and most of the negative comments were in fact from men. (I also saw a video where a female “bishop” said that 70% of Catholics support the ordination of women, and that in Persona Christi actually means in the presence of Christ.) I have wondered for a while how Catholic women actually feel about this issue? Is it a hard teaching to accept?
 
Many of us don’t find it hard to accept, at all. “Equal” doesn’t mean “same.” There are some areas in which men and women have different roles.
 
I am quite glad that women cannot be ordained. I have no problem with it whatsoever. The Church is not a democracy. We do not decide these things based on majority. Jesus was clear that only men are ordained priests and we follow the teachings of Christ, not what the majority of people want.
 
Deo_Gratias42 said:
I am quite glad that women cannot be ordained. I have no problem with it whatsoever. The Church is not a democracy. We do not decide these things based on majority. Jesus was clear that only men are ordained priests and we follow the teachings of Christ, not what the majority of people want.
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Amen. These poor mislead “women priests” are not celebrating Mass. They have excommunicated themselves and are performing a mockery. Unfortunately they are leading many followers into mortal sin. We should pray for their conversion of heart and return to the Church.

As to the contention that in persona Christi means in the presence of Christ, this is patently false. The English translation literally means in the person of Christ. The Church is the bride and Christ is her bridegroom. The priest stands in the person of Christ and it is an impossibility for this role to be filled by a woman.
 
:rolleyes:

Not only do I not have a problem with the male-only priesthood, I actually think it is absolutely the good and correct understand of Christ’s intention.

Men can’t have babies. Is that discrimination? Sheesh. The “womyn priest” folks need to get a grip. Men are women are not now and never have been the same. Get over it!

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I don’t understand why I would be expected to have “feelings” about this. I don’t have “feelings” about facts. I don’t have “feelings” about the existence of Mars, gravity, the doctrine of the Trinity, or any other facts of faith or the larger world.

Those who have “feelings” on this topic are somehow under the misconception this is something other than a fact, somehow a matter on which there can be opinions.
It is a fact that female human beings are invalid matter for the sacrament of holy orders.
 
namax91 said:
If this is in the wrong forum, a moderator can feel free to move it. I was watching videos of “women priests” celebrating the “Mass” and most of the negative comments were in fact from men. (I also saw a video where a female “bishop” said that 70% of Catholics support the ordination of women, and that in Persona Christi actually means in the presence of Christ.) I have wondered for a while how Catholic women actually feel about this issue? Is it a hard teaching to accept?
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some people need to study their Latin. In Persona Christi means in the ‘person’ of Christ.

I believe that to be in the person of Christ you must represent Christ as he was, a human of the male gender. To deny Christ’s gender is to deny his humanity. So I’m fine with an all male priesthood.
 
I have no problem with women not being ordained. I do not see how or why feminist think the Church is discriminating against them. In fact, why has our society now wrapped its head around the idea that a NO means “challenge” or if you dont agree with another persons view then you are a “hater”.

When i was a child, i thought as a child but at some point we must put away our childish ways.
 
When someone persists with me on this topic, and asks me when the Church will allow the ordination of women, my typical reply is “when men can have babies”.

We have been given distinct but equally important gifts. As a man it would do me no good to whine about my “rights” being offended because I can’t have a baby. It just is what it is.

If we think about it for a minute though, the gift of being able to make Christ and His grace literally present for us, would be totally meaningless if women didn’t have the gift of being able to nurture life within them; they are distinct but totally complementary gifts.

Unfortunately in today’s society the gift of giving life is given short shrift what with abortion, ABC, etc. We’ve made that gift a very banal matter unfortunately. It’s probably no wonder then, that some women feel somehow “cheated” that they can’t priests. If we properly restored dignity to human life in all phases of life, and the role of women in nurturing life, perhaps things would be different and women would realize that the often lonely life of a priest isn’t so attractive as being a giver of life.
 
I’m totally fine with it. It’s a fact. What’s there to argue? As people love to say “it is what it is”. There’s nothing “wrong” that needs to be fixed.

Listen, we can’t get the women in the ladies guild to agree on Mayonnaise vs. Miracle Whip let alone…:rolleyes:

But seriously, amen to everything everyone has already said.
Besides, there is an army of women in every parish fulfilling a myriad of roles, and being of great service to the Church.
We have tons to do.
 
God gives both men and women their own unique way of bringing life into the world. Women bring about physical life by giving birth as mothers. Men give spiritual life by consecrating the Eucharist as Priests.
 
Jesus never ordained any women…so why should we? The women has a special role in the Church. Look at the Blessed Mother. She is a woman and the most perfect of all creatures in this world
 
I’m with the other ladies here.

I think some women see their own femininity as inferior to men’s masculinity, rather than simply different. And many of them think of priesthood as a sort of “status symbol” or “power” from which they are excluded. Also, some of the arguments diminish the role of His female followers–including His Mother, the Blessed Virgin Mary! Because she was not an Apostle, somehow she’s less important? Of course not! But if they’d only follow their own logic to its conclusion… they’d see that’s exactly what they’re saying!

I’m happy as a woman. I see my womanhood as a gift, not a curse. I love my “feminine genius.” I don’t need to be treated the same as men to be treated as equal in value. Too many people confuse the two.

Most of the arguments in favor of “women priests” are simply misunderstandings about what the priesthood is, and/or what it means to be a man or a woman. Some of the arguments can be pretty insulting to women. So now we’ve got people who are supposed to be “feminists” who are promoting ideas that women are inferior by virtue of being female. And some of the arguments imply that God is weak, unable to change hearts, etc.

Being a priest is not just a “job” or a “career choice,” it’s a special calling from God. God doesn’t call men to motherhood. God doesn’t even call all women to (biological) motherhood. God doesn’t call all men to ordination, either… so why should I be offended that He doesn’t call me to be a priest (as if God “owes” me anything at all)? 🤷
 
Deo_Gratias42 said:
I am quite glad that women cannot be ordained. I have no problem with it whatsoever. The Church is not a democracy. We do not decide these things based on majority. Jesus was clear that only men are ordained priests and we follow the teachings of Christ, not what the majority of people want.
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Amen! Obedience is best.
 
johnnyt3000 said:
God gives both men and women their own unique way of bringing life into the world. Women bring about physical life by giving birth as mothers. Men give spiritual life by consecrating the Eucharist as Priests.
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OH man. You just had to step in it. :rolleyes:
So I guess Mother Theresa, Catherine of Siena, OUR LADY, and others have not brought spirituality to the table? Mary gave our High Priest life with her fiat. 😉
Come on. You know better.
It’s not an either or thing, although many people equate sex as two polar opposites in everything. All people want love. All people seek love, and all people are capable of manifesting the love of God. That they do it differently is fine on it’s own. We don’t need to make comparisons.
 
namax91 said:
(I also saw a video where a female “bishop” said that 70% of Catholics support the ordination of women, and that in Persona Christi actually means in the presence of Christ.)
As a man I resent the fact that only women can get pregnant. We should take up these issues (women’s ordination and male pregnancy) with God when we go before him. Only he can change these facts.
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There are some lovely replies on this thread! And I add myself to the list of Catholic women who have no problem with it at all. 🙂
 
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