But Jesus did have female disciples: there clearly wasn’t a problem with them doing the job of disciples. He didn’t have any women among the 12, the Apostles, the ones he ordained who were the forerunners of bishops.
I was referring to the 12 disciples, not followers in general. The apostles include more than 12 people, as St. Paul is also an apostle but wasn’t one of the 12 disciples. (Or maybe it’s more accurate to say there were 12 disciples and 12 apostles but they weren’t all the same 12 people?)
Right, but if the argument is that Jesus only didn’t pick women for the job because it wasn’t socially acceptable for them to be travelling around with the men or alone, and doing the various discipling jobs, I do need to point out that Jesus did have women as disciples who travelled around like the other disciples, whether or not that was socially acceptable. He had female disciples who took on important roles, leading to women ending up as the first at his tomb, receiving the Good News. And yet, he still chose not to include a single woman among the 12 he ordained.
I have a degree in communication theory and an unofficial minor in social psychology.
Just to be clear and concise, that door has been closed – there will be no female priests in the Roman Catholic Church.
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Translation: “you don’t agree with me, therefore you’re a brainwashed patsy, cringing in adoration of the opinions of others”.
Congress is 80 percent male, 80 percent white, 30 percent Catholic and 92% Christian overall. That’s the most diverse Congress we’ve ever had. I don’t think feminists are the ones determining federal maternity leave policies…Originally Posted by Catholic farmer: If feminists really valued women, the US would have one of the best maternity leave policies, rather than one of the worst. They don’t value women doing what only women can do.
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No, translation, this is one area where I actually know much more than the general public. And the idea that human relationships don’t inherently involve a power dynamic is completely and provably incorrect. / refusing to see that puts you at greater risk of being manipulated into a brainwashed patsy, so please pay attention to what I’m telling you because it’s in your best interest to know this.
I’m sorry but this is one of my TOP pet peeves.
Conversion of adjectives into nouns is a very common linguistic process. You’re allowed to be annoyed, but that doesn’t make it wrong
Because women are automatically expected to tow the progressive line.
But it was YOUR definition. You were the one who stated that relationship involve power. In fact, you specifically used the word ‘objects’ in your definition.
That is ability. Do you consider ability to be synomous with ‘power’
Why is it God v’ersus’ us. Why not God WITH us.
I doubt the 70% support figure but that 's neither here nor there. The only women who actively support it are suffering from envy and from wounded pride. What isn't said is that clerical is incredibly virulent among the women in the churches that ordain them. I'm sure that, as with most such matters, ballyhoo and shills have been hired to go on sites to make it sound as if the absurd thing is the popular thing.