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tuopaolo
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Yahoo! I voted the first option and was pleasantly surprised to see so many people (about 75%) vote the same. Wow! Praise be to Jesus!
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ThornGenX
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I too am betting my soul on it. In addition, I believe that being Catholic helps me get through the difficult times.
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Edwin1961
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Was this strictly a ‘Latin’ Rite poll or one that does include the Eastern Rites?
I am as sure as the universe wasn’t created 5 minutes ago, since 5 minutes ago I first clicked to read and tale part in THIS poll!
I am as sure as the universe wasn’t created 5 minutes ago, since 5 minutes ago I first clicked to read and tale part in THIS poll!
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bogeyjlg
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There should be an “I would wager my life on it” choice.
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bogeyjlg
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Eastern rites are catholic. So is the Oriental rite, Marion rite, etc.
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pqxtdr
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1 + 1 does not always equal 2. In a base two number system 1 + 1 = 10.
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MichaelLewis
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Maybe I should have clarified what I meant by that option. The idea is that universe was created five minutes ago just as it was five minutes ago; that is with all of your apparent “memories”. Everything you think happened more then five minutes ago didn’t really happen at all. If you’ve been alone for the past five minutes, you have never even really met another person! I sellected it because there is no way of knowing if it is true or not, but most of us would find it VERY hard to accept.
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huskerfan
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That makes about no sense!
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MichaelLewis
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pqxtdr said:
But in a base two number system, 10 IS 2. I’m suspecting that more than 99.9% of Cathoic Answers members are going to interperet the question the way I intended.
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MichaelLewis
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Well, how do you know that the universe wasn’t created five minutes ago? Remember, you were *created with *your memories (and the rest of us were created with ours). It is just that they aren’t REAL memories.
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huskerfan
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You love mind games don’t you? I don’t want to argue with you about this. Your beliefs are yours and mine are mine. I’m content to let it go at that. Have a nice day! 
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tuopaolo
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pqxtdr said:
1+1 always equals 2. It’s just that 1+1 does not always equal the number represented by “2.” The number represented by “10” in based 2 is 2.
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MichaelLewis
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The trouble with wagering one’s life or soul is that it’s only impressive if the stakes are just right. If you think it is just 51% likely that Catholicism is true, Catholicism is probably your best bet (assuming that only Catholics are saved if Catholicism is true, which I know isn’t quite the case.) Even if you thought Catholicism were only 30% likely to be true, if the only other possibility was materialism (70% likely), it would still be a good bet to be a Catholic (if you COULD be a Catholic while believing Catholicism was probably false). A really impressive bet would be one where a person risked suffering a very large harm for the possibility of a very small benefit. But if Catholicism is true, that could never be the case for those betting on Catholicism.
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huskerfan
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Oh Michael,The trouble with wagering one’s life or soul is that it’s only impressive if the stakes are just right. If you think it is just 51% likely that Catholicism is true, Catholicism is probably your best bet (assuming that only Catholics are saved if Catholicism is true, which I know isn’t quite the case.) Even if you thought Catholicism were only 30% likely to be true, if the only other possibility was materialism (70% likely), it would still be a good bet to be a Catholic (if you COULD be a Catholic while believing Catholicism was probably false). A really impressive bet would be one where a person risked suffering a very large harm for the possibility of a very small benefit. But if Catholicism is true, that could never be the case for those betting on Catholicism.
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What is you are trying to prove? Why can’t we bet our life on it and let it go at that as long as it is our heartfelt decision? I ***KNOW ***in my heart that Catholicism is true and right. If I’m wrong (and I know I’m not) it is my problem. And I don’t see it as a problem. I don’t believe only Catholics will be saved (that may get me into trouble but I firmly believe it!!!). I have made some really bad mistakes in my life and chances of Heaven for me are remote. Doesn’t mean I don’t pray for others or try to do right. I believe in God and His promises. Enough said.
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MichaelLewis
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Oh, please don’t misunderstand. I’m not saying that you can’t wager your life or soul on it, I’m just defending my not including that sort of option in the pole. I’m certainly not saying that you are being unreasonable in such a wager, if you think Catholicism is at all probable!
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huskerfan
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OK. Sometimes things are hard to follow and my faith is terribly important to me and I had defending it all the time.
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bogeyjlg
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You completely missed the point. I would bet my life on the truth of Catholic doctrine because I am 100% sure it is true. I am betting my life because I see it as being completely secure bet and I wouldn’t lose.The trouble with wagering one’s life or soul is that it’s only impressive if the stakes are just right. If you think it is just 51% likely that Catholicism is true, Catholicism is probably your best bet (assuming that only Catholics are saved if Catholicism is true, which I know isn’t quite the case.) Even if you thought Catholicism were only 30% likely to be true, if the only other possibility was materialism (70% likely), it would still be a good bet to be a Catholic (if you COULD be a Catholic while believing Catholicism was probably false). A really impressive bet would be one where a person risked suffering a very large harm for the possibility of a very small benefit. But if Catholicism is true, that could never be the case for those betting on Catholicism.
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MichaelLewis
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Ok, but were you less than 100% certain, say 75%, you still might make the bet, right? I was just responding to those, like huskerfan, who thought that option should have been inculded in the pole. By itself, willingness to bet isn’t a very good gauge of certainty.
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huskerfan
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Ok…I won’t bet my life on it…but I definately would give up my life to defend it!!!
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