How come Catholics are not allow to have a supernatural experience with God?

[deafjazzy]

I have seen an angel at mass. I am always looking for them. That day I was not because I was not at my parish but visiting another with a friend.

Thank you for sharing your story.

John 10:27
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me;

Thank you I believe we do see them but we are too afraid to look at them.

 

[deafjazzy]

Dear friend, I am sorry this has been your experience with fellow Catholics. The Church is not against the idea of people experiencing God. After all, the Saints had this look up some Saints like St Gemma Galgani.

But I would advise not sharing this with just anyone. Typically its advised to only tell a trusted spiritual director. I have never had visions of God or Our Lady but I’ve told my priest some personal things about spiritual life and he was very understanding. But I wouldn’t tell my friends. As for what people told you, - they can’t possibly know the origin of your experiences. Same with anyone here. A spiritual director would be more able to discern. Please don’t be discouraged. Keep this between God and you, and if you find a good holy priest, you can share this with him. But I’d avoid saying such things to other people. God bless you

Thank you, I think it was more alike for me St Teresa of Avila, her experiences are similar as mine. For some reason I picked her as my conformation without knew why. Many mansions is what I have been experience. as for Spiritual Director, i would have to find right one but will ask other members in different forum when time is right.
I have been keep it to myself for years to this day. I still enjoy visiting heavenly Father when I am at peace and praying. Thank you again, God bless you.

 

[deafjazzy]

Please do as so many saints have done, and submit your judgment to that of a trusted, knowledgeable, and preferably holy priest who agrees to be your spiritual director. It is very true that Satan would like nothing more than for you to be isolated from guidance in these matters, as this is a doorway for him to wreak havoc. Don’t forget that, should God permit them, the devils can ape everything from ecstasy to physical illness. You must be humble enough to put your trust in the guidance of those whom God has given to us as spiritual fathers.

Patient is the key to find right one to help me with this. this what God told me through His angels me on many occasional, be patient. I am good because i have a lot of protection from Him everyday. I trust in Him, I love Jesus for what He did for us all. When time is right then it will come to me. Thank you.

 

[deafjazzy]

Just to clarify, for the sake of the thread, a person (i mean any person in general, not the OP) may have experiences that are from God, or themselves, or the enemy. It is the job of the Church to discern particular cases. They look at the fruit of the experience and the content, relation to Catholic teaching, etc. Each experience should get discerned, because for example someone may have received something from God, and had another experience that just came from their nature. In any case, this is why its important to have a spiritual director, to talk about everything in detail…online its hard or impossible to judge the reality of someone’s experiences, since we may even misunderstand the descriptions. Its something to speak to a priest about who could ask questions and understand what the experience was like.

I wouldn’t try to even decide the source of something described online unless it was extremely obvious, because I have no authority in this but also because I could be misunderstanding the description. I also don’t know the person. I’d recommend to anyone to simply speak to a priest and they’d be able to take it from there

I would love to speak with a priest but not the priests out here. They tend to misunderstand me too as here on this post. they do not have enough knowledge about us, our culture and way of communication ( we are so different from people in the way of thinking and spoke language ). I just want to know why the Church frown on those things while it is okay for saints who went through this. One of other member of Catholic fellow asked me to get to class and train to help others in other state… I would love to do this but impossible because of my marriage and loyal to my husband. When time is right and right person then I can discuss this with priest hopefully. thank you.

 

[LoveMercyGrace]

Thank you for sharing your experiences, for me it is edifying to read. I have had supernatural experiences and signs. The church is mystical and full of beauty!

Yet, I am in agreement , to seek spiritual direction. which is what I believe you were attempting to do by posting in this forum

Spiritual direction…It could be a holy priest, or sometimes the religious, such as a religious order of nuns near you, may offer opportunities to deepen your spiritual life in Christ. many orders are now using new media and have opportunities available online to interact with them.

God bless you

 

[deafjazzy]

OP; I was given some great wisdom on this. By my spiritual advisor,

To ask of yourself, was the vision etc given to you FOR you, or for you to share with others… To ponder in your heart or to spread?

Many times for me, the former. To hold me firm and to strengthen and comfort and yes to keep me alive

That was for me alone.

I once made the mistake of sharing with one priest who was scathing. Another on a different matter, was less so.

Ponder these things and feed on them.

Yes I have been ponder this too. Mostly visions were mean for me but sometime God come to me and to share it with my family during hard time of our lives, most of time they were death in family. Thank you for let me know. I don’t think people are ready for this what I witness God’s working among us still to this day. those things I could not share with anyone because very complication and so difficult for any of us understand this. Greatest lesson from Him is Love. Love heal us. Jesus taught us that one.

 

[deafjazzy]

I believe that some people see things … as a child growing up … and living in a very difficult situation at home … I did see two different things … it’s become harder for me to believe what I saw as I grew older … then again I can remember them quite vividly … I don’t doubt people when they say they see things or experience things … but I do believe we should bring these things to our priest and let him discern them for us.

Yes when I was a child, I used to chase a ghost at night while everyone was sleep for few years till I learn how to communication then they stopped.Every time I saw them, they come and put cover my eyes and put me back to sleep. Now I only see them in visions and dreams. I did once went to priest on this one and did not help me much. I had to go through this alone but I had a lot of helps from above.

 

[setarcos]

When it comes to these “personal” revelations or visions from God, Angels, or what have you…what is its point other than to the experiencer? If they are experienced by others they are not personal and confined to the individual, if only by the “chosen” they can only impart secondary knowledge to others which may be subject to the experiencers inability to properly express, or may be a deliberate misrepresentation for self angrandizement or even be a creation out of their own psyche. In any case the imparted information makes itself subjected to all kinds of difficulties. Their source is unprovable. Even if they follow in line with and are not contradictory to God’s revelations it cannot be proven to have its source from him. It is not unheard of for people to claim such things for their own nefarious reasons. Psychologicaly a person may become so engrossed in their experience and sharing it that they fail to realize or even ignore their own part in its creation. Should a person wish to share their wisdom or insight with another do they wish to add more weight to it by claiming its source as heavenly? If God wishes to impart a message to his children why not impart it to his children instead of through only a few? If Mary is so desperate to speak her love to everyone why make it so difficult for doubters by only appearing to a chosen few? Especially since Satan can perform miracles too and how better to deceive than by cloaking them in heavenly garb? Especially when we have messages of such import that the message itself claims to be of utmost import that we all pay heed. Many of the so called Marian revelations seem to follow this line. Its as if this all is some cosmic game being played and certain arbitrary rules must be followed. It seems to me that if a message carries information of a needed change of such import then it would be best delivered to those who could put that change into effect not only to those who are least likely to achieve it. These messages seem to impart things which we as Christians should already be paying heed to anyway. So what is the point? Those who doubt remain doubters because these things cannot be proven to them to come from God and those who are believers are in no need of these things in order to believe and they cannot impart to doubters any benefit from them.
Is this why Christ said no sign shall be given them? Because it would have been pointless?
I should clarify that I don’t find personal experiences of the Divine not capable of happening. I simply disagree with others acting on any information passed on secondarily from the experiencer. It might create stumbling blocks for some or jealousy or pride or feelings of unworthyness or a miyriad of other problems. And didn’t our God implore us not to be the cause of our brothers and sisters stumbling?

 

[deafjazzy]

I have seen things in my life, also. Some things I still see. I think such things can sometimes be meant as consolations to us. Many saints who were mystics were not believed. Even some fellow priests call St. Padre Pio a fraud, including about his stigmata. St. Faustina’s diary was suppressed. Some people don’t believe in such experiences at all, others may be envious. But some people will believe you. I do.

I hope you keep a written record of what you see and are told. Who knows, one day you may be a celebrated mystic and your writings read around the world.

God bless you.

Great to know there is many who get to see things too in their life, I hope so I do not want to go through this alone. St Padre Pio is one of most powerful saint believe me, he came to me twice and showed me how to say rosary proper way. I loved him for that. I was so honored and kept it to myself for many years till now. St Faustinas I never knew her when i was told to focus on two color red and blue while my body went through chao. I still say this color red and blue over again once in awhile. Then I saw her book and read this book, I was blew away about red and blue. I have not finished her whole book yet. I was away from Him, for same reason as other I does not believe and thought those were in my mind and try to stay sane till God called me to go home with Him. He changed me forever. I trust Him will do same with so many nonbelievers around the world. I do not keep it my diary, others said I should but I am afraid because I am no writer. I just want to draw what I saw in heaven, i am no artist. maybe one day I will take class on drawing. Yes that is what I am afraid of people who feel envied, honestly no one will want my place. count your blessing for being who you are. What God is teaching me right now, how to say a prayer for people who need it mostly. Jesus already won for me and now it is time for Him to win many more lost souls out there. Thank you.

 

[deafjazzy]

Your question is way off the mark. Many Catholics through the centuries have had supernatural experiences with God and the Church recognizes them. We call them “mystical” experiences and some of our greatest adherents (Saints) have had them and they are called Mystics.

Then why I was told by many other catholic fellowers this is not God’s working but the satan’s working. I keep it silent and grief because of what they said to me. I am not going to say those but i understand how it works for them. Because they had a big heart and Love. They wears gold halo around their heads. I see them too. I see many saints too. I was dying and I was healed and send back to earth when I was 2 and half. I was healed with golden light balls of energy coming down from heaven into my little body. I fought against God why did you brought me back to earth when I should have stay dead. I was joy playing with other children but God send me back because people around us were crying for His help and nobody give us a chance to be a human being. That is why I came back to be a deaf child and speak no language till I was 9. I did this for Him and my mom had to go through this to fix this so damn broke system in our country and this world. Do you know that people in some poverish country especially in catholic community, they killed many deaf child and they were so shamed of them. Deaf children are His but in some place people does not want them so they killed them and dumped them somewhere.I did not hear this from news but heard this from someone who met those people from S. America, they told them about it. why are they still do this to those little deaf kids. They still not accept us for who we are to this day. My job is to teach people to accept us for who are and encourage them to feel free with me. Others who are like me struggle for same reasons. we are one working together as one team for whole world. Thank you.

 

[deafjazzy]

You can have visions & religious experiences which are from God…but be very careful…when you said one night “God called you to go home with Him.” That doesn’t sound like God, if you are being called to kill yourself.

Listen to other people here who are telling you to ask your priest about these visions.

I have gone home already. I did not kill myself. Something was wrong with my gland and it was malfunction. without the help of God I would have died. My sisters are vegetarians, they are fine but for me just happen my body shut down because my body was out of whacked. It took me 10 years for my body back to normal. I love this earth so much, i rather to be around us, people, animals, trees, blue sky and goes on. I am thankful God gave my life back twice. He said next time I will be done then go home with Him to heaven. Hopefully not till ripe old age then. Thank you for your concern. Remember God heal people, that what He did to me when He called me to go home with Him to heaven to heal me, my soul, my body and my mind then send me back to earth. It took about less than one fourth of second. I remember them.

 

[deafjazzy]

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[Rosebud77]

God did not punished me for not eating meat. I was slowly killing myself without I knew what I was doing. I hate eat meat still to this day because I love animals but need to eat some of them . .It was when I heard Him called me to go home with Him which scared heck out of me. I thought I was going to die but truth was He took me home with Him and showed me what was wrong with me. It took me one year to find right doctor to diagnosed my health issue now I am on medicine for one of my malfunction gland for rest of my life. I would have died then without HIs help. I am poor grammar writer, and hard for me to write to make sure if anyone understand me. k. Thank you for asking me.

I no longer eat meat. We do not “need” meat and like you I love animals. I feel a lot better since I stopped eating meat.

Please worry not re your writing etc; language after all is about communication and you do that very very well indeed.

So glad that you got the diagnosis you need. It took the doctors 30 years to get it right with my illness and I am damaged because of it, but we have Jesus…

 

[Rosebud77]

Thank you I believe we do see them but we are too afraid to look at them.

Years ago in a different house, I saw at night two shadowy forms coming in through my bedroom window,I was terrified and they did not stay;realised later that they were angels > They will not intrude where there is fear like that.

 

[deafjazzy]

Years ago in a different house, I saw at night two shadowy forms coming in through my bedroom window,I was terrified and they did not stay;realised later that they were angels > They will not intrude where there is fear like that.

thank you for sharing. I had several experience like this, I got freaked out by them. Then I understood why they came to me, one was let me know about my God mother who was dying. Other was with me one night almost 20 years ago and stay with me to this day. He finally revealed to me who he was, he was a Catholic priest long time ago.At first I thought he was devil in that brown robe with hooded but he won’t go away till God showed me who he was. Then I am good with it. I don’t get it if priest or nun passed away, don’t they go to heaven immediately instead stay near us and help us when we need it? That is why I love Catholic Church and all their hard work to help us.

 

[deafjazzy]

I no longer eat meat. We do not “need” meat and like you I love animals. I feel a lot better since I stopped eating meat.

Please worry not re your writing etc; language after all is about communication and you do that very very well indeed.

So glad that you got the diagnosis you need. It took the doctors 30 years to get it right with my illness and I am damaged because of it, but we have Jesus…

Thank you about meats, I have talked with my dr about foods, i need to find right kind of protein to eat without meat. can’t wait to eat more green

wow it took you 30 years to get right diagnosis. It took me 15 years with His help and guide me to right doctor. That is how I found my God, Jesus Christ. Thank you and yes we have Jesus. God bless you.

 

[Monica4316]

thank you for sharing. I had several experience like this, I got freaked out by them. Then I understood why they came to me, one was let me know about my God mother who was dying. Other was with me one night almost 20 years ago and stay with me to this day. He finally revealed to me who he was, he was a Catholic priest long time ago.At first I thought he was devil in that brown robe with hooded but he won’t go away till God showed me who he was. Then I am good with it. I don’t get it if priest or nun passed away, don’t they go to heaven immediately instead stay near us and help us when we need it? That is why I love Catholic Church and all their hard work to help us.

Some Saints had visions of souls in purgatory… Priests can go to Purgatory too so then we need to pray for them. Saints from Heaven can appear to us too. Of course it all takes discernment but its not ruled out that it could be a soul from Purgatory needing prayers? I really can’t say though! Its not a Saint?

 

[Rosebud77]

Thank you about meats, I have talked with my dr about foods, i need to find right kind of protein to eat without meat. can’t wait to eat more green

wow it took you 30 years to get right diagnosis. It took me 15 years with His help and guide me to right doctor. That is how I found my God, Jesus Christ. Thank you and yes we have Jesus. God bless you.

Thank YOU and you are a blessing to us. Milk and cheese are good, and eggs of course. and peas and beans… plenty of choice. Greens are great too!

Stay safe and blessed, as you indeed are…

 

[newcalling]

It was two supernatural experiences; first with the Archangel Michael, and then a year later with the blessed Mother, which are responsible for me becoming Catholic after 40+ years. I have not seen anything which would deny supernatural experiences, and in fact see them throughout church history and even today. Perhaps someone questioned your specific experiences because they thought there was something against the church’s teaching in them, but ultimately I think the best advice folks have given you is to discuss them with a priest or religious brother/sister, especially one who has experience with supernatural experiences.

 

[Blue_Rose]

Please I ask,

All those that communicate with what you perceive to be Angels, saints or Jesus…
Say “Blessed be Jesus and Mary” and they should repeat exactly “blessed be Jesus and Mary” - not just “Blessed be”.
If it’s Satan or his angels, they will not be able to speak the names of Jesus and Mary.
This is what St Gemma did when she had her visions and it worked.