How come some Protestants really believe

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Unfortunately it still goes on today, even in the US. I miss the days of unbiased journalism. Or maybe I’m remembering things that never were.😦
I’m pretty old. I cannot recall unbiased journalism. It took a lot of reading in the journalism of the day, or any day, to get a rounded picture. And for an in-depth one, more reading, more deeply.

GKC
 
I’m pretty old. I cannot recall unbiased journalism. It took a lot of reading in the journalism of the day, or any day, to get a rounded picture. And for an in-depth one, more reading, more deeply.

GKC
I always want to know something about most authors I read. Why did they write this? What are they hoping to gain? I have become a cynic in my old age.
 
VIII. VII was much less colorful.

GKC

added. Hmm. Perhaps I misread a post here. But I still think VIII was a more fascinating whatever.
A would-be king who takes the field in battle and defeats his rival king on the field gets my vote over one who dresses up in flash armour but hangs around at the back and goes nowhere near any danger. Bosworth was the last time in English history where kings actually got on the field of battle and led like men.Give me a warrior king over one who played tennis, jousted and wrote poetry.
 
I always want to know something about most authors I read. Why did they write this? What are they hoping to gain? I have become a cynic in my old age.
I was born a cynic. My late mother said I was 32 years old at birth. Never had the wonder years. If so, this makes me precisely 100.

But as to why things are written, reasons are as varied as the people who write them.

GKC
 
A would-be king who takes the field in battle and defeats his rival king on the field gets my vote over one who dresses up in flash armour but hangs around at the back and goes nowhere near any danger. Bosworth was the last time in English history where kings actually got on the field of battle and led like men.Give me a warrior king over one who played tennis, jousted and wrote poetry.
And music.

But certainly VII knew how the game of bums on thrones was played, on the field.

GKC
 
DaddyGirl:
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that Catholics won’t be in heaven because they aren’t “saved”…
Seriously, do they really believe that?
And why are Christian kids really “so much better” because they can recite Bible verses? ( got this little “dig” from my own DH’s aunt last night…)
I KNOW better than to believe this … I do not believe this at all…
But it still hurts…

Because most people–not all–automatically believe what they are taught growing up without questioning it at all.
Most people believe the teachings of the religion of their family because it is what they are told is the truth–and everyone around them in their church agrees with it, so it is reinforced.

I’m sure Protestants get hurt, too, by many Catholics’ belief that they don’t have “the full truth” or the proper Eucharist, etc, etc…

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I don’t believe it is set in childhood but agree with the rest. No matter what any of us, or anybody believes in regard to God at least 2/3rds of the rest of the world thinks they are wrong

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Because most people–not all–automatically believe what they are taught growing up without questioning it at all.
Most people believe the teachings of the religion of their family because it is what they are told is the truth.
I disagree. In my experience most people tend to fall away in their teens, from what their family taught them. It took me over 20 years before I saw sense and came back because of what I suddenly realised was the Truth.
 
Perhaps if we had centuries of volume after volume, not to mention movies & miniseries’, of biased history from Great Britain regarding Mary Queen of Scots you would not think so badly of her.
Who thinks “so badly” regarding Mary Queen of Scots?
 
Perhaps if we had centuries of volume after volume, not to mention movies & miniseries’, of biased history from Great Britain regarding Mary Queen of Scots you would not think so badly of her. Instead England’s history is extremely biased and unreliable with regards to Henry VIII & Elizabeth, IMHO.:eek:
Mary I or England and Mary Queen of Scots were two entirely different people.
 
The fact that Henry’s coffin exploded at his funeral has a completely scientific natural explanation, it was not a sign of God’s displeasure with Henry.

Bodies were not embalmed at the time and a decomposing body gives off a lot of gasses. The lead coffin he was in could only expand so much and it exploded from the accumulated gasses.
The Ghost Tour in St. Augustine FL claims a St Augustine FL bishops coffin exploded while folks were payin respects in the church too…

What is it with claiming exploding coffins…
 
I disagree. In my experience most people tend to fall away in their teens, from what their family taught them. It took me over 20 years before I saw sense and came back because of what I suddenly realised was the Truth.
Or…you reverted back to the teachings of your childhood because it is what you were taught during your formative years–it was ingrained in you on many, many levels with ritual, words, music, visuals, family, familiarity, etc.?

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Daddygirl, I mostly agree with Brendan 64. What we are taught during our formative years has significant power, without a doubt. I think it’s unwise to discount it or be unaware of how we’ve been conditioned by our upbringing. But it (our early religious upbringing) doesn’t, I am convinced, account for some of the most fundamental, center-of-the-soul responses we can make to God.
 
Or…you reverted back to the teachings of your childhood because it is what you were taught during your formative years–it was ingrained in you on many, many levels with ritual, words, music, visuals, family, familiarity, etc.?
No that was not the case. I had a ‘conversion experience’ while driving home from work one day, which changed my life.
 
Having gone to a Church of Ireland/England school (Anglican) we had to do Irish and English history every day mostly English History as the Protestants in Ireland are more into English History, what I have said is what we got taught by Protestants, I personally (not bragging) came first in the class for History, except one year when I came 2nd, and have a lot of books to show for it.

If Henry’s Lust had not got the better of him England would be Catholic to day. His poor wife Catherine of Aragon, having all these Mistress’s paraded in front of her, Catherine of Aragon refused to go to bed with Henry which drove him made, so she said make me your Queen and I will she knew he was already married but did not care but lust comes and goes hence at the end of day she did not produce the son and got her head cut off. He broke from Rome as he could not get a divorce to marry the Mistress, so he broke from Rome gave himself a divorce and re arranged the Church that is why the High Anglicans have a lot of Catholic things Catholic, but high Anglican is not the norm but low Church Anglican is.

No doubt the Lord is having a good chat with Henry. So sad to see Monasteries in ruins, beautiful Architecture but all ruins by Henry and the lands given over to his friends who broke from Rome and denied the Pope. What did St. Thomas Moore say on the Scaffold " I am the Kings good Servant, but God’s first."
 
Having gone to a Church of Ireland/England school (Anglican) we had to do Irish and English history every day mostly English History as the Protestants in Ireland are more into English History, what I have said is what we got taught by Protestants, I personally (not bragging) came first in the class for History, except one year when I came 2nd, and have a lot of books to show for it.

If Henry’s Lust had not got the better of him England would be Catholic to day. His poor wife Catherine of Aragon, having all these Mistress’s paraded in front of her, Catherine of Aragon refused to go to bed with Henry which drove him made, so she said make me your Queen and I will she knew he was already married but did not care but lust comes and goes hence at the end of day she did not produce the son and got her head cut off. He broke from Rome as he could not get a divorce to marry the Mistress, so he broke from Rome gave himself a divorce and re arranged the Church that is why the High Anglicans have a lot of Catholic things Catholic, but high Anglican is not the norm but low Church Anglican is.

No doubt the Lord is having a good chat with Henry. So sad to see Monasteries in ruins, beautiful Architecture but all ruins by Henry and the lands given over to his friends who broke from Rome and denied the Pope. What did St. Thomas Moore say on the Scaffold " I am the Kings good Servant, but God’s first."
I got a lot more books.

In para 1 above, you mean Anne, not Catherine, in the bed reference.

Henry’s problems with an heir, and his attempts to solve them, predated his passion for Anne by years.

You said divorce again.

Add to your lot of books some on Henry. Start with Scarisbrick’s. Do remember that he is RC.

GKC
 
Or…you reverted back to the teachings of your childhood because it is what you were taught during your formative years–it was ingrained in you on many, many levels with ritual, words, music, visuals, family, familiarity, etc.?

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No that was not the case. I had a ‘conversion experience’ while driving home from work one day, which changed my life.
Yes–If you’re open to realizing God as a His own Person, as Other, able and willing to move and act in ways that come from outside ourselves and our own experience, understanding, and conditioning, then it becomes clear that our religious convictions can be far, far more than just the sum of our childhood religious upbringing.
 
That would be awesome to read about if you were willing to post it. 🙂
I’ve posted it on CAF a few times in the past, but since you have asked, here it is again.

Having turned away from God for several decades (rebelling against Him since my early teens) I was into paganism at that time, getting deeper into it at that stage, and was not looking to return back. I was driving home from work one sunny day and as I drove across a busy, major West London crossroads there was a sudden ‘brightness’ in the sky, everything around me appeared to stop, and a voice asked me, “Where are you running to?” and then asked, “What are you running from?”. At that moment I realised that the very thing I had been running from all those years was the thing I was trying to find. So I cried, apologised, begged for forgiveness, and then before I knew it I was out and over the other side of the crossroads. No car crash, not even a beep of the horn from the other cars. It was as if time stood still for a few minutes.

I then arrived home in a state of shock and went off to Confession the next day, and opened up to the priest. As chance would have it, the Gospel reading for that Sunday (which was the following day) was the Prodigal Son, which I was given to read as penance. And then at Easter Sunday shortly afterwards that same priest absolutely soaked me with Holy Water when he was sprinkling the congregation. He looked straight at me, smiled and whoosh, soaked me full in the face. And that was it.
 
I’ve posted it on CAF a few times in the past, but since you have asked, here it is again.

Having turned away from God for several decades (rebelling against Him since my early teens) I was into paganism at that time, getting deeper into it at that stage, and was not looking to return back. I was driving home from work one sunny day and as I drove across a busy, major West London crossroads there was a sudden ‘brightness’ in the sky, everything around me appeared to stop, and a voice asked me, “Where are you running to?” and then asked, “What are you running from?”. At that moment I realised that the very thing I had been running from all those years was the thing I was trying to find. So I cried, apologised, begged for forgiveness, and then before I knew it I was out and over the other side of the crossroads. No car crash, not even a beep of the horn from the other cars. It was as if time stood still for a few minutes.

I then arrived home in a state of shock and went off to Confession the next day, and opened up to the priest. As chance would have it, the Gospel reading for that Sunday (which was the following day) was the Prodigal Son, which I was given to read as penance. And then at Easter Sunday shortly afterwards that same priest absolutely soaked me with Holy Water when he was sprinkling the congregation. He looked straight at me, smiled and whoosh, soaked me full in the face. And that was it.
Gosh, Brendan.
All I can say is
Praise God from whom all blessing flow.
Praise Him all creatures here below.
Praise Him above ye heavenly hosts.
Praise Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

Jon
 
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