How come the Truth of God is not clear to the whole world?

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I don’t agree with you. Jesus was only for the Jews and he had nothing to do with the whole world, so the whole world doesn’t know him.
Well, St Luke and St Paul would disagree…

Luke 2:32 - (Simeon took the child Jesus in his arms and gave thanks to God) “A light to reveal your will to the Gentiles and bring glory to your people of Israel.”
Romans 3:26 - In this way God shows that he himself is righteous and that he puts right everyone who believes in Jesus.

Who am I to believe; You? Or St Luke and St Paul? :hmmm:
Jesus , in my opinion, did not die on Cross and hence no question of his resurrection. For the same reason this is not the central event in the world’s history.
That is not only your opinion, that is Islamic belief. (See Qur’an 5:17 and Qur’an 4:157)
In my opinion only Catholics got confused being influenced by religious philosophy of Paul; Jesus was a straightforward man , he confused nobody.

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Our faith in Jesus is not so much that it was revealed by Paul - but that Jesus came to fulfill prophecy.
 
Originally posted by ** MH84 **
What do you think was the central event in the world’s history?

Hi

The first coming of Jesus, since he was as per Quran and as clearly hinted by Jesus himself, a ProphetMessenger and an Admonisher of GodAllahYHWH to the Jews, so his importance and significance was limited for the tribes of Jews only.

For all other nations of the world, as I understand, the age remained the same; they never knew anything about him, the only change that came about was the mark that as per the Covenant of GodAllahYHWH with Abraham, the blessings were to shift from the (the limited national/tribal scope) hand from the offspring of Isaac to the offspring of Ishmael, who was to become international and for all times to come, with the advent of Muhammad.

With Muhammad, yes, a new era started, in my opinion. Advent of Muhammad is in this sense the central event in the world’s history.
The material change or significance is that now no new or old ProphetMessenger of GodAllahYHWH could come for the guidance of the humanity, except in a metaphoric sense, and only the one who accepts the Canon-of-Muhammad and implements it that is Quran.

Everybody stands a witness, though my Catholic friends talk of Second Coming of Jesus, yet Jesus has, in my opinion, refused to come physically and literally for the last 2008 years. The one **PromisedMessiah 1838-1908 **who has come is a successor of Muhammad, so that proves my point.

Naturally others could differ with me, which they are entitled to out of their free will, no compulsion.

I respect your religion.

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Originally posted by ** MH84 **
Since the death and resurrection of Christ was the central event in the world’s history, how come there is so much doubt and confusion in the world about this?
Originally posted by paarsurrey:
Jesus did not die on Cross and hence no question of his resurrection. For the same reason this is not the central event in the world’s history.
Only Catholics got confused being influenced by religious philosophy of Paul; Jesus was a straightforward man, he never confused nobody.
Originally posted by ** MH84 **
How come the apostles did not stop Paul if he was leading the church in the wrong way?
Hi

I have already replied about the central point of the world history.

Now I come to the second point.

Jesus was himself alive (as he made good his escape from the death on Cross), though he was out of the Judea for the accomplishment of his mission in Persia, Afghanistan, North West of Pakistan, India, Tibet and lastly in Kashmir, where the Jewish exiled tribes had settled.

So the Apostles needed not worry about what Paul was doing in Rome, in Jesus’ name, without any lawful authority. Rome was not a Jewish territory, nor did the tribes of Jews lived there in any significant numbers, so for all practical purposes it was not the jurisdiction of Jesus or his apostles; if the master was not worried why should his pupils worry so much.

Kindly peruse the following:

Matthew 15:22-26
22 And behold a woman of Canaan who came out of those coasts, crying out, said to him: Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David: my daughter is grieviously troubled by the devil. 23 Who answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying: Send her away, for she crieth after us: 24 And he answering, said: **I was not sent but to the sheep that are lost of the house of Israel. **25 But she came and adored him, saying: Lord, help me. 26 Who answering, said: It is not good to take the bread of the children, and to cast it to the dogs.

Matthew 10
2 And the names of the twelve apostles are these: The first, Simon who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother, 3 James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother, Philip and Bartholomew, Thomas and Matthew the publican, and James the son of Alpheus, and Thaddeus, 4 Simon the Cananean, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him. 5 These twelve Jesus sent: commanding them, saying: Go ye not into the way of the Gentiles, and into the city of the Samaritans enter ye not. 6 But go ye rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Acts Of Apostles 18:
5 And when Silas and Timothy were come from Macedonia, Paul was earnest in preaching, testifying to the Jews, that Jesus is the Christ.6 But they gainsaying and blaspheming, he shook his garments, and said to them: Your blood be upon your own heads; I am clean: from henceforth I will go unto the Gentiles. 7 And departing thence, he entered into the house of a certain man, named Titus Justus, one that worshipped God, whose house was adjoining to the synagogue.

Acts Of Apostles 11:
1 And the apostles and brethren, who were in Judea, heard that the Gentiles also had received the word of God. 2 And when Peter was come up to Jerusalem, they that were of the circumcision contended with him, 3 Saying: Why didst thou go in to men uncircumcised, and didst eat with them?

Nevertheless, the Apostles did not like preaching to the Gentiles.

Thanks
 
Paarsurrey,

a few things.
  1. There was a sizeable Jewish community in Rome at the time of Christ.
  2. All of Jesus’ apostles sufferred horrific martydom and / or torture at the hands of the Romans for their preaching. Nobody does what they did without being sure of the facts first. One silly documentary about a tomb of Jesus in India 2000 years after the event (that they’ve only just found after Britain ruled India for over 100 years - geez!) does not change that.
    I know quite a few Indian Christians whose ancestors were converted by the apostle Thomas. There are lots of writings about Thomas in India. There are none about Jesus being there.
    If Jesus was in India i think the sizeable Idian Christian population on the western coast would have known something about it, as would Thomas.
  3. The quotes you use about Jesus sending his disciples to the Israelites and not the gentiles was in the early part of his ministry before the crucifiction. After the crucifiction he clearly sent them everywhere and specifically mentions that they should go to the gentiles. So yes, during his ministry he concentrated on the Jews. After the crucifiction the message was to the world as the scriptures clearly say and as we all know, what the apostles actually did.
 
The quotes you use about Jesus sending his disciples to the Israelites and not the gentiles was in the early part of his ministry before the crucifiction. After the crucifiction he clearly sent them everywhere and specifically mentions that they should go to the gentiles. So yes, during his ministry he concentrated on the Jews. After the crucifiction the message was to the world as the scriptures clearly say and as we all know, what the apostles actually did.
Hi

Whatever Jesus did before the Crucifixion was preaching to the Jews and he detailed his Apostles for that surely, you agree with me. From the event of Crucifixion ( in which he survived); how many days was he in Judea. From Galilee alongwith Mary, Jesus went Eastward.

Thomas was also sent to the Lost tribes of the House of Israel; not to Buddhists or Hindus in India.

You mean to say he sent his disciples Westward, please quote Jesus’ words, I find none.

Thanks
 
Matthew 28:18

Then Jesus approached and said to them, 'All power in Heaven and on Earth has been given to me. Go therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptising them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.

Mark 16:15

He (Jesus) said to them (disciples), ‘Go into the whole world and proclaim the gospel to every creature’.

Luke 24:46

And he (Jesus) said to them (disciples), ‘Thus it is written that the Messiah would suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, and that repentence, for the forgiveness of sins, would be preached in his name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem.’

tektonics.org/qt/sheepjourney.html

abu.nb.ca/ecm/topics/out5.htm

newadvent.org/cathen/14678a.htm#I
 
The truth of God is not clear to the whole world because faith is a gift from God. Somehow not all have been able to accept this gift. Perhaps some have not been given it. Only God knows.
What I don’t understand is how no one else on this thread has mentioned this.

Matthew
 
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