How common is interior locution?

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I’ve had a handful of interior locutions that have impacted me greatly. Usually they have spurred me to examine an area of my life that I have been struggling in. Ironically, they have addressed habits of behavior or thought rather than big lifechanging moments. And, they have come in times when I have been calm, interiorly peaceful and mediative–receptive.

I think interior locutions are common for those who make time for quiet prayer-- something I don’t do enough. And, I think they are generally intended for our own spiritual growth. 🙂
 
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I’m not sure either, Barb, but when I read this about the fig tree being by the wayside, and knowing it did NOT even come close to bearing any kind of fruit, it reminded me of the contrast in Ezekiel 47:12:

The footnote from USCCB’s NAB: The wonderful and superabundant stream flowing from the temple, restoring to fertility traditionally arid ground, is symbolic of the return of the conditions of primeval paradise; cf Genesis 2:10-14. Water signifies great blessings, just as dryness signifies a curse;

Something to ponder, for sure.
Thanks Carole…heaps to ponder for sure …and too from all the links I have found from the Google search connected to “the stream by the wayside”…

Barb
 
The other sign is that God removes our desire to pray for that situation, since it is already taken care of. The former urgency to be steadfast and ardent in prayer is now replaced with quiet peace, and there seems to be a block or check in one’s spirit not to continue in further prayer about that matter. If the person does so anyway, the prayer has none of the former urgency or sense of pleading, but is replaced by that quiet certainty of having been answered in that special locution.
Thank you for posting this, it is very helpful.
 
I’ve had a handful of interior locutions that have impacted me greatly. Usually they have spurred me to examine an area of my life that I have been struggling in. Ironically, they have addressed habits of behavior or thought rather than big lifechanging moments. And, they have come in times when I have been calm, interiorly peaceful and mediative–receptive.

I think interior locutions are common for those who make time for quiet prayer-- something I don’t do enough. And, I think they are generally intended for our own spiritual growth. 🙂
I have no doubt that being calm and interiorly peaceful is beneficial in being able to hear the “still, small voice” but my own experiences have varied widely.

The first locution I had was at a time when I was deeply troubled but actually in solitary prayer before the tabernacle, asking God why I was having so many problems. The answer came back very clearly: “You don’t have a lot of problems; you have ONE problem. Why don’t you trust Me?” More than 12 years later I can still hear that Voice and those words in my head.

The second was on a drive with my daughter telling me of a crisis she was dealing with at the time as a teenager. The words to answer her were just heard in my mind without any thought of even asking God, though I almost certainly should have been. :o

The third occasion was on a Saturday morning when I was having a discussion with my wife about some mundane topic. I suddenly stopped talking because the Voice came into my head saying: “And the young man walked away sadly for he had great anger.” Clearly a “play” on the story of the rich young man but with the twist of what often pulls me off the path in my own direction. Totally out of the blue and behavior-related.

Only one of the three had any conscious attempt to be “present” to God, though I was certainly not expecting such a direct response even on that occasion. One of the three not related to my personal growth at all. I just see them as a gift from God, who knows what we need and when we need it.

My most common form is actually probably the situations where I just turn over my keyboard to allow God to say whatever He is wanting heard at the moment. Sometimes it is a word of comfort or encouragement; other times an explanation of some topic or a perspective that some lurker needs to see in their confusion. I almost always find out about these things after the fact when someone sends me a note thanking me for something I didn’t realize I was doing at the time. It’s not a conscious effort to be a “mailman” but just the williingness to allow myself to be used when the occasion arises.

So many ways He speaks to us, each as we need to hear. Makes me really sorry for all those years I didn’t even try to listen, or believe that He was even talking, much less that He would have anything to say to me! And it makes me even sadder when I run into those who cannot accept that others hear God in a different way than they do and start berating them and telling them that the way God is using with that person is “unacceptable” in some way. We’re so willing to try to put God in a box sometimes. 😦

Peace,
 
In the Divine Office a psalm reads “and he shall drink from the stream by the wayside, and therefore he shall lift up his head” … no one seems to know how to interpret that psalm.
In case of emergency, call a Doctor of the Church: newadvent.org/fathers/1801110.htm.

I also am amused by the Psalms, noticing things that I had never noticed before, and St. Augustine, my Confirmation patron saint, has always been of great help.

:blessyou:
 
In case of emergency, call a Doctor of the Church: newadvent.org/fathers/1801110.htm.

I also am amused by the Psalms, noticing things that I had never noticed before, and St. Augustine, my Confirmation patron saint, has always been of great help.

:blessyou:
Thank you Augustine…I take to St. Augustine too, I find him a saint with a gentle heart and much common sense, as well as a great theologian.
I now have found many references to inform me on the Psalm and the stream by the wayside…although personally I still see a connection between this psalm and the fig tree anecdote from The Gospel and this connection may, of course, be a personal one for me only.

Thank you for another point of researching re the stream by the wayside:thumbsup: and by the great St. Augustine.

…and God’s rich blessings on you and yours also…
 
…although personally I still see a connection between this psalm and the fig tree anecdote from The Gospel and this connection may, of course, be a personal one for me only.
Which is quite alright. It was actually an inspiring connection that I hope will yield much fruit for you and for all with whom you’ve shared it.

Thank you.

:blessyou:
 
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So many ways He speaks to us, each as we need to hear. Makes me really sorry for all those years I didn’t even try to listen, or believe that He was even talking, much less that He would have anything to say to me! And it makes me even sadder when I run into those who cannot accept that others hear God in a different way than they do and start berating them and telling them that the way God is using with that person is “unacceptable” in some way. We’re so willing to try to put God in a box sometimes. 😦

Peace,
Hi John…good to be reading your Posts again and I trust you and yours had a really great and blessed Christmas!

The above pulled me up and gave me food for good and profitable thought…although I must admit that I think of “locutions” per se as being either actual words or voice heard with outer or inner ear and having had a span of time of psychosis and of hearing a voice and voices that were anything but holy am quite paranoid I know on the subject of hearing a voice or actual words with inner or outer ear.:o

Incidentally, prompted by a weight gain increased by giving up smoking now over two years ago, I am being taken off medication since I have been so well for so long and we will see how I go. I have stayed on medication because I chose to do so, not because it was recommended. I have been afraid that I may get ill if I came off it and I fear the illness like the plague - it has such destructive powers of one’s way of life and relationships. My increased weight gain even more with giving up smoking prompted my decision to try coming off the medication. To date my appetite has droped in a massive way as I knew it would and I am loosing weight…one of the dreadful side effects most all experience with psychiatric medication is weight gain. My doctor is monitoring my coming off medication and first hint of any sort of problem and I will back so quickly on it I wont be seen for the dust in my wake.
Off topic again…apologies!..

Cacha round, John, my friend - keep up the great work…Barb:)
 
I have no doubt that being calm and interiorly peaceful is beneficial in being able to hear the “still, small voice” but my own experiences have varied widely.

The first locution I had was at a time when I was deeply troubled but actually in solitary prayer before the tabernacle, asking God why I was having so many problems. The answer came back very clearly: “You don’t have a lot of problems; you have ONE problem. Why don’t you trust Me?” More than 12 years later I can still hear that Voice and those words in my head.

The second was on a drive with my daughter telling me of a crisis she was dealing with at the time as a teenager. The words to answer her were just heard in my mind without any thought of even asking God, though I almost certainly should have been. :o

The third occasion was on a Saturday morning when I was having a discussion with my wife about some mundane topic. I suddenly stopped talking because the Voice came into my head saying: “And the young man walked away sadly for he had great anger.” Clearly a “play” on the story of the rich young man but with the twist of what often pulls me off the path in my own direction. Totally out of the blue and behavior-related.

Only one of the three had any conscious attempt to be “present” to God, though I was certainly not expecting such a direct response even on that occasion. One of the three not related to my personal growth at all. I just see them as a gift from God, who knows what we need and when we need it.

My most common form is actually probably the situations where I just turn over my keyboard to allow God to say whatever He is wanting heard at the moment. Sometimes it is a word of comfort or encouragement; other times an explanation of some topic or a perspective that some lurker needs to see in their confusion. I almost always find out about these things after the fact when someone sends me a note thanking me for something I didn’t realize I was doing at the time. It’s not a conscious effort to be a “mailman” but just the williingness to allow myself to be used when the occasion arises.

So many ways He speaks to us, each as we need to hear. Makes me really sorry for all those years I didn’t even try to listen, or believe that He was even talking, much less that He would have anything to say to me! And it makes me even sadder when I run into those who cannot accept that others hear God in a different way than they do and start berating them and telling them that the way God is using with that person is “unacceptable” in some way. We’re so willing to try to put God in a box sometimes. 😦

Peace,
thanks for sharing, John. I wasn’t really praying during most of my experiences either, but it was quiet–no radio, tv, kids talking to me. One time I was taking out the trash. I was really, really irritated because as a SAHM, homeschooling mom of six, I have a really heavy workload, and I was doing a job that is supposed to be my husband’s (my mutual agreement). As I was dragging one of the heavy cans to the end of the driveway, I was fussing at Jesus, “I shouldn’t have to do this for him!” I was so angry, spitting angry.

Then, I “heard” Jesus say to me, “okay, but will you do it for me?”

Well, of course, I would!!

I try to remember that when I’m doing one of the many, many tedious chores that my life entails. I am not naturally selfless or even domestic, so I often am grumbling. :o
 
thanks for sharing, John. I wasn’t really praying during most of my experiences either, but it was quiet–no radio, tv, kids talking to me. One time I was taking out the trash. I was really, really irritated because as a SAHM, homeschooling mom of six, I have a really heavy workload, and I was doing a job that is supposed to be my husband’s (my mutual agreement). As I was dragging one of the heavy cans to the end of the driveway, I was fussing at Jesus, “I shouldn’t have to do this for him!” I was so angry, spitting angry.

Then, I “heard” Jesus say to me, “okay, but will you do it for me?”
Oh wow, God really knows just what to say and when, doesn’t He!?

Here’s one that happened to me:

I was at mass and thinking about how it would be great to go to daily mass, but its in the morning before work, and I could never get up that early. And I was thinking to God, gee God, if only you had made me better, then I would be a morning person and I would get up and go to daily mass. Why did you make me so that I can hardly even get up for work, let alone mass!

Then I heard back “I will get you up, but will you GO?”

I knew right then that something would be waking me up in the morning. Sure enough, every single morning since then something has either startled me awake, or I’ve just woken up before the alarm clock completely wide awake for no apparent reason. And of course after hearing that, I have no excuse but to get up and go to mass 😃 And I’ve been going to daily mass almost eveyr day since 😃
 
Oh wow, God really knows just what to say and when, doesn’t He!?

Here’s one that happened to me:

I was at mass and thinking about how it would be great to go to daily mass, but its in the morning before work, and I could never get up that early. And I was thinking to God, gee God, if only you had made me better, then I would be a morning person and I would get up and go to daily mass. Why did you make me so that I can hardly even get up for work, let alone mass!

Then I heard back “I will get you up, but will you GO?”

I knew right then that something would be waking me up in the morning. Sure enough, every single morning since then something has either startled me awake, or I’ve just woken up before the alarm clock completely wide awake for no apparent reason. And of course after hearing that, I have no excuse but to get up and go to mass 😃 And I’ve been going to daily mass almost eveyr day since 😃
that is very cool!
 
I believe, Neil Anthony, that interior locution is as common as you want to make it. Are you familiar with the cartoon character who has an angel and a devil on either shoulder talking to him? You can always have these angels and devils talk to you just by willing it (hopefully you’ll will the angel’s words and ignore the devil’s). You can always say that it’s just your imagination, but if the words are good, does it really matter?

Once, for example, I was praying to the Virgin about my wife, and a soft voice inside my head (still my mind’s voice, not a woman’s) said “treat her [my wife] as holy”. Now, most people I know would tell me I just imagined it, but I know the words were good, so I treat them as the Virgin’s command.

If I was praying to God and a voice said “sacrifice your first born son to me”, then I would definitely wait for some serious confirmation!
 
I’ve had inspirations that I have been not sure of the origin–my own imagination or an instruction of God. But the interior locutions that I have had–I have never doubted. The words were a distinct communication. The ideas transmitted were completely outside of my thought processes. It was as if a voice was speaking in my head. And, after hearing it, I knew instantly that the communication was truth. No doubts or confusion.

Maybe it’s one of those, “you know it when you experience it” kind of things…
 
Maybe it’s one of those, “you know it when you experience it” kind of things…
The problem with that is that I’ve known far too many people who attribute everything they do to “God told me to…”, from the kind of dog they buy to that God told them to not speak to a particular neighbor.

I’ve seen far too many fruits that were clearly not of God but that the person believed from a “you know it when you experience it” basis to trust that all of us are discerning enough to be able to tell. How do you even begin to discuss something with someone who believes that God “impressed this on my heart”?

The couple I’ve had seemed pretty clearly (at least to me!) from God, but I can think of lots of situations–as Snowy noted–where I would wait for some serious confirmation before I would trust the interior voice. The “Son of Sam” and those who flew the planes into the World Trade towers thought they heard commands from God too.

Testing spirits is part of our discernment process, and a most important part at that. It is a beautiful gift when one receives one, but could be a terrible curse to accept one from the angel of darkness disguising himself as an angel of light.

Peace,
 
I knew right then that something would be waking me up in the morning. Sure enough, every single morning since then something has either startled me awake, or I’ve just woken up before the alarm clock completely wide awake for no apparent reason. And of course after hearing that, I have no excuse but to get up and go to mass 😃 And I’ve been going to daily mass almost eveyr day since 😃
What a riot! And how true! And to think He’d take time out of “His busy day” to help us with ours! What a wonderful God we have!

God bless and Merry Christmas,
Dan
 
This is a good thread, but I didn’t vote because I think both answers can be true.

Interior locution, I think, is very common in people with a deep and advanced prayer life, especially contemplative prayer. (That’s why it’s so necessary that those who have advanced to this stage of prayer to have a spiritual director. I totally agree with *BarbaraTherese’s * Post #13.) I think these people may be less common (but they usually become Saints 😃 ).

I think that interior locution is rarer in people who have just started upon the journey of their spiritual life.

Of course, since God is God and can, and will, do whatever is best for us, He may grant the gift of interior locutions to a beginner and withhold it from one more advanced in prayer. As Leonie said (Post #29), sometimes He speaks to our heart even while taking out the trash! (No matter. Whenever and however it comes, it is a great gift!) Actually, I think those are the most real experiences - when it comes out of the blue like that (Leonie hit the nail right on the head in post #33), when you don’t expect it and it’s almost as an “interruption” into our thoughts.*****

In Post #3, *Joysong * writes about the Spirit inspiring someone how to speak in certain situations. I don’t think of this as interior locution. This is just the indwelling of the Holy Spirit which we receive at Baptism and in which we are strengthened at Confirmation. When we live according to the Word of God and the teachings of His Church, we keep those lines of communication open. When we live in sin, we “clog the pipes,” so to speak.

With interior locution, the Lord speaks to one’s heart and soul, and the soul knows and understands Who is speaking for it knows the voice of its Maker.

***** Since we’re sharing experiences, I’d like to share one.

I have always longed to have a relic of a piece of the Cross, but I never even prayed for one because I thought it was impossible. I thought only churches, or monasteries, or priests, etc., would have one, and who would give one up?? I never prayed about it because I figured why bother God with something impossible? It would be like asking God to have me sprout wings and fly!

Well, some years ago, I was on Main Street in Flushing, Queens, New York, early one Saturday morning. I had stopped to look into the window of a shoemaker’s shop who had some jewelry (:confused:) displayed in the window. On the only board I was interested in was 2 crosses in the top 2 corners, three medals below, and one cross below the medals. I had no plans to buy anything because I had only $42 to last all week (and it was Saturday), but was curious as to one of the medals - it was of a female Saint kneeling before the Blessed Mother who was holding the Baby Jesus. I was just curious as to which Saint it was, and not being able to figure it out, I turned to walk away.

As I turned, I heard (inside) as loudly and clearly as if someone had been on the sidewalk right next to me: “GO BACK AND ASK.” I was so surprised, and thankfully all alone, I actually looked up and mouthed the word, “WHAT??”

Once again I heard: “GO BACK AND ASK.”

Not wanting Him to have to tell me a third time, I turned and entered the shoemaker’s shop. The shoemaker greeted me and I asked to see the board with the crosses. At first, I looked at the medal, and then my eyes fell on the bottom cross. I saw the tiny pin on the bottom and knew it was a reliquary cross.

It was beautiful - sterling silver with intricate engraving. I was trying to figure out how, if I purchased it, would I live on $7 until the next payday, since the shoemaker wanted $35 for it. He wouldn’t let it out of his hands, and so I finally had to tell him, “Excuse me, sir, but I believe that if you turn the pin on the bottom, the cross will open.”

He looked at it closer and started turning the pin. As he did so, my heart started beating wildly even though my rational brain kept saying, “It’s probably empty, you know!”

When the shoemaker finally opened the cross, he squinted at it, then shrugged his shoulders and put it in my hand.

And there I stood, in a shoemaker’s shop on Main Street, Flushing, with a relic of the Holy Cross of Our Lord Jesus Christ in my unworthy hands.

No, it doesn’t have the papers, but it is sealed with the imprinted red wax and red threads, and I have absolutely no doubt that it is authentic.

I gladly paid the $35. (I told my landlord that I would be a week late with the rent that month. :o )

When I walked out, it was as though I were in a trance, or in shock, and what floored me the most was how He in his Goodness and Graciousness granted the desire of my heart even though I had never asked Him for it.

If this wasn’t a locution, then I don’t know what is.
 
Interior locutions are extremely rare and when they occur the receiver has no doubt that another, superior being, has communicated with them.
 
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Since we’re sharing experiences, I’d like to share one.

I have always longed to have a relic of a piece of the Cross, but I never even prayed for one because I thought it was impossible. I thought only churches, or monasteries, or priests, etc., would have one, and who would give one up?? I never prayed about it because I figured why bother God with something impossible? It would be like asking God to have me sprout wings and fly!

Well, some years ago, I was on Main Street in Flushing, Queens, New York, early one Saturday morning. I had stopped to look into the window of a shoemaker’s shop who had some jewelry (:confused:) displayed in the window. On the only board I was interested in was 2 crosses in the top 2 corners, three medals below, and one cross below the medals. I had no plans to buy anything because I had only $42 to last all week (and it was Saturday), but was curious as to one of the medals - it was of a female Saint kneeling before the Blessed Mother who was holding the Baby Jesus. I was just curious as to which Saint it was, and not being able to figure it out, I turned to walk away.

As I turned, I heard (inside) as loudly and clearly as if someone had been on the sidewalk right next to me: “GO BACK AND ASK.” I was so surprised, and thankfully all alone, I actually looked up and mouthed the word, “WHAT??”

Once again I heard: “GO BACK AND ASK.”

Not wanting Him to have to tell me a third time, I turned and entered the shoemaker’s shop. The shoemaker greeted me and I asked to see the board with the crosses. At first, I looked at the medal, and then my eyes fell on the bottom cross. I saw the tiny pin on the bottom and knew it was a reliquary cross.

It was beautiful - sterling silver with intricate engraving. I was trying to figure out how, if I purchased it, would I live on $7 until the next payday, since the shoemaker wanted $35 for it. He wouldn’t let it out of his hands, and so I finally had to tell him, “Excuse me, sir, but I believe that if you turn the pin on the bottom, the cross will open.”

He looked at it closer and started turning the pin. As he did so, my heart started beating wildly even though my rational brain kept saying, “It’s probably empty, you know!”

When the shoemaker finally opened the cross, he squinted at it, then shrugged his shoulders and put it in my hand.

And there I stood, in a shoemaker’s shop on Main Street, Flushing, with a relic of the Holy Cross of Our Lord Jesus Christ in my unworthy hands.

No, it doesn’t have the papers, but it is sealed with the imprinted red wax and red threads, and I have absolutely no doubt that it is authentic.

I gladly paid the $35. (I told my landlord that I would be a week late with the rent that month. :o )

When I walked out, it was as though I were in a trance, or in shock, and what floored me the most was how He in his Goodness and Graciousness granted the desire of my heart even though I had never asked Him for it.

If this wasn’t a locution, then I don’t know what is.

Wow! Thanks for sharing that. Is that ever exciting! I guess God chose you to safely keep this relic!

Did the store owner try to raise the price once he saw there was a relic in it?
 
My experiences of locution have been as previously described, as if an outside source who is clearly God puts a thought into your head that was completely independent of whatever you were thinking about. The phrasing is not yours- the words and the order of the words are God.

I can tell you some of what God has told to me via locution.

“You are my son with whom I am well pleased.”
“Have faith and trust that the Lord is with you.”
“I am with you always. Do not concern yourself with matters like these. Put it down and come follow me.”
“I love you.”

These are exact quotes from God. Needless to say, this is very awe-inspiring. A few of these I just received over the past couple days as my prayer life is starting to improve. I wonder if I ought to get a spiritual director. I am 23 years old.

I also have experiences where I feel the warmth of God flowing through me, but the phrasing is my own- it’s not an outside voice interjecting into my head.​

I have also had experiences where I have been misled and heard voices other than God- my imagination and also the Devil.​

I realize this sounds crazy to most people.
 
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