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PeteZaHut
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How could God allow slavery in the Old Testament?
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as-a-child
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God allows evil to bring a greater good out of it.
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Benadam
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He didn’t IMO that was another reason for the ban. Joshua failed to enforce it The consequence was an enemy population within the tribes that had to be denied freedom.
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richardeekw
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The Old Testament is revealed in the New aand the New Testament is hidden in the Old.
The whole Bible is God’s revelation to Man.
For example the first experience of God is NOT God the Creator; BUT God of Salvation, bringing the Hebrew people out of bondage in Egypt through the EXODUS event.
Another important Fact in Bible Study is to bear in mind that
**RETRIBUTIVE Theology **is often the understanding of the Israelites (The Old Testament). i.e. Reward for Goodness; Punishment for wickedness.
In the fullness of Time, Jesus Christ revealed the fullness of Truth, the Way and the Life in the New Testament.
Theology of LOVE.
The whole Bible is God’s revelation to Man.
For example the first experience of God is NOT God the Creator; BUT God of Salvation, bringing the Hebrew people out of bondage in Egypt through the EXODUS event.
Another important Fact in Bible Study is to bear in mind that
**RETRIBUTIVE Theology **is often the understanding of the Israelites (The Old Testament). i.e. Reward for Goodness; Punishment for wickedness.
In the fullness of Time, Jesus Christ revealed the fullness of Truth, the Way and the Life in the New Testament.
Theology of LOVE.
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Dennis_Ramos
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when we look at slavery in the bible , it pertains to war like capturing of enemies and their family members , which was a common practice in the early part of the biblical era , not to be understood as slavery in the colonial times (america , canada , europe , slavery] , there were many forms of slavery look at leviticus and 1st kings in the old testament , the purpose of this practice was to repeat the offences commited by the enemy of each camp , israelites and caananites , or the story of joseph in genesis , G-D doesn’t condone slavery , man is the cause of all acts of violence towards each other. Look at how Jesus confronted the pharisees about the interpretation of mosaic law regarding divorce , That is why he said my kingdom is not of this world , peace , 
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kepha1
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Victims of war had no charities or international relief organizations in the Old Testament. It was compassionate to adopt “slaves” to keep them from starving to death.
They had rights.
Mosaic law gave them protection from abuse.
They could earn their freedom.
They could use a period of servitude to pay off debts.
This isn’t anything like the racial or chattel slavery that we associate “slavery” with.
good article from a Protestant magazine:
The Truth About the Catholic Church and Slavery
They had rights.
Mosaic law gave them protection from abuse.
They could earn their freedom.
They could use a period of servitude to pay off debts.
This isn’t anything like the racial or chattel slavery that we associate “slavery” with.
good article from a Protestant magazine:
The Truth About the Catholic Church and Slavery
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Spirithound
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Why not? People today have a knee-jerk reaction to the word slavery because it carries deeply racial connotations. But isn’t the slavery of the OT really just a cleaning lady or a butler who are guaranteed room and board? Don’t minimum-wage earners today have it actually far worse off?
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HeWillProvide
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I still don’t understand how God could say “be good to your slaves” - isn’t this condoning slavery? isn’t he bending morals to fit the customs of the times? just because there were slaves back then doesn’t mean it was right. isn’t this moral relativity?
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davidv
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It could be similar to the case of divorce.
With their hardness of heart, demanding this level of perfection would have caused more harm than good. The same condition likely applied to slavery.
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HeWillProvide
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Does this imply we are less hard-hearted today back then since slavery is not accepted now?
Does this also mean that God changes his “rules” according to the condition of our hearts?
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Vince1022
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We don’t know. It’s not the case that God allowed it to bring some greater good. The same question could be asked today…why does God allow people to commit abortion?
The mystery of evil. See the Catechism 309.
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Vince1022
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What good did God bring from slavery? Where in Scripture is this good referenced? Thanks.
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Vince1022
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Well if God didn’t allow it, why did it exist? Even the New Testament doesn’t teach against slavery.
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Vince1022
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No, minimum-wage earners can quite and find a new job. They would not be hunted down and imprisoned, tortured, or returned to slavery if they left their job.
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nguirado
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Slavery is a social arrangement. It’s not intrinsically evil. What’s immoral is treating people as if they were not people. It’s in the catechism.
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kentuckyliz
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What is the source of the thought that slavery is wrong?
Without God, all things are possible…and rationalized.
Without God, the strong and the powerful rule over the weak.
Why didn’t the nation of Israel observe the Jubilees that would have released the slaves and restored ancient family lands?
Why did Islam deem slavery OK? Why do they still practice it today, since we’re so enlightened? (There’s more slavery in the world today than in the world before the American Civil War.)
Where are all the abolitionist protesters flooding Muslim countries to end the slavery?
Without God, all things are possible…and rationalized.
Without God, the strong and the powerful rule over the weak.
Why didn’t the nation of Israel observe the Jubilees that would have released the slaves and restored ancient family lands?
Why did Islam deem slavery OK? Why do they still practice it today, since we’re so enlightened? (There’s more slavery in the world today than in the world before the American Civil War.)
Where are all the abolitionist protesters flooding Muslim countries to end the slavery?
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HeWillProvide
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“Social arrangement”?! Wow, if I were a slave, I’d certainly balk at that downplay of the total enslavement of one man by another!
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Vince1022
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Where in the Catechism? Thanks!
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Vince1022
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So are you saying slavery is ok according to Catholic Church teaching or not?
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Benadam
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The word slave is too broad to think of it in black and white terms. Sometimes it means something that is sinfull and other times it means something that isn’t. Depends on whether or not the state being described abuses the dignity of the person. In the past it was a way to pay a debt or deal with an enemy population. Both of those states preserved life in that the alternatives were much worse. Peace
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