How Could Mohammed, a Killer, be a Man of God?

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When Mohammed first started screaming from the rooftops that he alone had the divine word of God, the people of Mecca ignored him. However, when he started insulting and defaming the religion of the peace loving Meccans, they couldn’t take it anymore and tried persuading him to stop. Mohammed the coward was too scared of the growing hostility against him and instead of calling upon his Allah to strike down the Meccans, he crept out one night and fled for his life.

Ever since that incident, Mohammed was determined to take revenge on the Meccans. He escaped to Medinah, which had a sizeable Jewish population, and started plotting his revenge with a small gang of criminals. This was the beginning of Mohammed’s trail of violence, hatred and bloodshed that would soon destroy the once flourishing culture of Arabia. The story has been documented in detail by his biographers, - surprise raids on trade caravans and tribal settlements, the use of plunder thus obtained for recruiting an ever growing army of greedy desperados, assassinations of opponents, blackmail, expulsion and massacre of the Jews of Medinah, attack and enslavement of the Jews of Khayber, rape of women and children, sale of these victims after rape, trickery, treachery and bribery employed to their fullest extent to grow the numbers of his religion Islam which ironically was supposed to mean “Peace”! He organised no less than 86 expeditions, 26 of which he led himself.

The motives of the converts to Islam was never in any doubt. As D.S. Margoliouth states in his book Muhammad and the rise of Islam

“Of any moralising or demoralising effect that Muhammad’s teaching had upon his followers we cannot say with precision. When he was at the head of the Robber community, it is probable that the demoralising influence began to be felt; it was then that men who had never broken an oath learnt that they might evade their obligations, and that men to whom the blood of their clan had been as their own, began to shed it with impunity in the “cause of god”. And that lying and treachery in the cause of Islam received divine approval. It was then too that Moslems became distinguished by the obscenity of their language. It was then too, that the coveting of goods and wives possessed by Non-muslims was avowed without discouragement from the Prophet…”

shaka.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/mohwar1.html
 
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Salaam/peace

Moses (p) killed hundreds if not thousands . Don’t u think he was a man of God ?

Do u believe Jesus (p) will burn Moses (p) with Muhammed (p) in the same hell ?

Don’t talk to me about Muhammad (pbuh)!"

4 min 4 sec

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKv3Vi46Fac

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut2VzQGtOis
Religion of Peace?

Koran 8:67-68
“It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. You desire the lure of this world and Allah desires for you the hereafter and Allah is Mighty, Wise… Now enjoy what you have won as lawful and good and keep your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is forgiving, merciful.”
 
When Mohammed first started screaming from the rooftops that he alone had the divine word of God, the people of Mecca ignored him. However, when he started insulting and defaming the religion of the peace loving Meccans, they couldn’t take it anymore and tried persuading him to stop. Mohammed the coward was too scared of the growing hostility against him and instead of calling upon his Allah to strike down the Meccans, he crept out one night and fled for his life.

Ever since that incident, Mohammed was determined to take revenge on the Meccans. He escaped to Medinah, which had a sizeable Jewish population, and started plotting his revenge with a small gang of criminals. This was the beginning of Mohammed’s trail of violence, hatred and bloodshed that would soon destroy the once flourishing culture of Arabia. The story has been documented in detail by his biographers, - surprise raids on trade caravans and tribal settlements, the use of plunder thus obtained for recruiting an ever growing army of greedy desperados, assassinations of opponents, blackmail, expulsion and massacre of the Jews of Medinah, attack and enslavement of the Jews of Khayber, rape of women and children, sale of these victims after rape, trickery, treachery and bribery employed to their fullest extent to grow the numbers of his religion Islam which ironically was supposed to mean “Peace”! He organised no less than 86 expeditions, 26 of which he led himself.

The motives of the converts to Islam was never in any doubt. As D.S. Margoliouth states in his book Muhammad and the rise of Islam

“Of any moralising or demoralising effect that Muhammad’s teaching had upon his followers we cannot say with precision. When he was at the head of the Robber community, it is probable that the demoralising influence began to be felt; it was then that men who had never broken an oath learnt that they might evade their obligations, and that men to whom the blood of their clan had been as their own, began to shed it with impunity in the “cause of god”. And that lying and treachery in the cause of Islam received divine approval. It was then too that Moslems became distinguished by the obscenity of their language. It was then too, that the coveting of goods and wives possessed by Non-muslims was avowed without discouragement from the Prophet…”

shaka.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/mohwar1.html
One more gem from the “prophet”
  1. Assasination of poets who criticised Mohammed’s murderous ways
    Date: Late March-April, 623 A.D
    Place: Medinah
    Victims: Two of the most famous poets of Medinah, who had the courage to criticise the murderous actions of Mohammed and his gang
After the battle of Badr, the people of Medinah were horrified that they had given refuge to such a blatant criminal and his followers in their city. Many began protesting the presence of such violent and murderous people in their city. In a free society like Pre-Islamic Arabia, the poets acted as society’s conscience and were free to criticise, satirize and examine the actions of people. The two most famous poets of this kind were Abu 'Afak; an extremely old and respected poet and Asma bint Marwan; a young mother with the gift of superb verse.

Muhammad was enraged at their criticism. When he heard the verses composed by Asma Bint Marwan he was infuriated and screamed aloud, “Will no one rid me of this daughter of Marwan!” That very night a gang of Muslims set out to do the dirty deed. They broke into the poets’ house. She was lying in in her bedroom suckling her newborn child, while her other small children slept nearby. The Muslims tore the newborn infant off her breast and hacked it to pieces before her very eyes. They then made her watch the murder of all four of her children, before raping and then stabbing her repeatedly to death. After the murder when the Muslims went to inform the Prophet, he said “You have done a service to Allah and his Messenger, her life was not worth even two goats!”

A month later the distinguished and highly respected Abu Afak, who was over a hundred years old and reknowned for his sense of fairness, was killed brutally in the same manner as he slept. Once again the Prophet had commented that morning “Who will avenge me on this scoundrel!”

This shows us exactly how much the tolerant and peace loving Prophet respected life. Muslims claim that Mohammed was extremely gentle and loved children. Indeed the horrifying way he had Asma Bint Marwan’s five infants slaughtered certainly attests to this “loving” side of the Prophet.
 
I know that Moses killed a slave master who was beating a woman.

Who else did he kill?

**See Exodus & later. **​


**St Peter killed two: Ananias & Sapphira. **

**As for the Church - 'nuff said. :cool: :eek: Christians are in no position to accuse others, not at all. **

 

**See Exodus & later. **​


**St Peter killed two: Ananias & Sapphira. **

**As for the Church - 'nuff said. :cool: :eek: Christians are in no position to accuse others, not at all. **

Actually, I think in the cases you mentioned it was God who did the killing.

Am I missing something?
 

**See Exodus & later. **​


**St Peter killed two: Ananias & Sapphira. **

**As for the Church - 'nuff said. :cool: :eek: Christians are in no position to accuse others, not at all. **

Are you saying that Jesus and Mohammed are equivalent?
 
Concerning present day, I haven’t seen any Christians running around in the streets like animals shooting their weapons shouting kill the Pope, kill Isreal and kill anybody else that crosses their paths. They want to kill, kill, kill. That’s all we hear from them.
 
From the Boston Globe September 20, 2006

AS SHE LAY dying in a Mogadishu hospital, Sister Leonella forgave her killers. She had lived in Africa for almost four decades and could speak fluent Somali, but her last words were murmured in Italian, her mother tongue. ``Perdono, perdono," she whispered. I forgive, I forgive.

She was 65 and had devoted her life to the care of sick mothers and children. She was on her way to meet three other nuns for lunch on Sunday when two gunmen shot her several times in the back. “Her slaying was not a random attack,” the Associated Press reported. It “raised concerns” that she was the latest victim of “growing Islamic radicalism in the country.”

Raised concerns? Sister Leonella was gunned down less than two days after a prominent Somali cleric had called on Muslims to kill Pope Benedict XVI for his remarks about Islam in a scholarly lecture last week.

``We urge you, Muslims, wherever you are to hunt down the pope for his barbaric statements," Sheik Abubukar Hassan Malin had exhorted worshippers during evening prayers at a Mogadishu mosque. “Whoever offends our prophet Mohammed should be killed on the spot by the nearest Muslim.” Sister Leonella was not the pope, but she was presumably close enough for purposes of the local jihadists.

If it weren’t so sickening, it would be farcical: A line in the pope’s speech suggests that Islam has a dark history of violence, and offended Muslims vent their displeasure by howling for his death, firebombing churches, and attacking innocent Christians. One of the points Benedict made in his speech at the University of Regensburg was that religious faith untethered by reason can lead to savagery. The mobs denouncing him could hardly have done a better job of proving him right.

All the while we hear, “Islam is peaceful!”
 
Concerning present day, I haven’t seen any Christians running around in the streets like animals shooting their weapons shouting kill the Pope, kill Isreal and kill anybody else that crosses their paths. They want to kill, kill, kill. That’s all we hear from them.
It’s all you hear because that’s what makes news
 
It’s all you hear because that’s what makes news
Are you claiming that it isne’t true?

What about the words of Mohammed himself, posted above?

Do you deny that Mohammed condoned and participated in evil actions?
 
Are you claiming that it isne’t true?

What about the words of Mohammed himself, posted above?

Do you deny that Mohammed condoned and participated in evil actions?
The reality of it is, not all muslims are up in arms, brandishing weapons and demanding to kill anyone who crosses their path. In fact, they are small groups of people who are up in arms, usually hooligans or from lower socio-economic class.

unfortunately, that’s what makes headlines. Very rarely do you hear about Muslims who are working to make positive change peacefully.
 
The reality of it is, not all muslims are up in arms, brandishing weapons and demanding to kill anyone who crosses their path. In fact, they are small groups of people who are up in arms, usually hooligans or from lower socio-economic class.

unfortunately, that’s what makes headlines. Very rarely do you hear about Muslims who are working to make positive change peacefully.
Mohammed was a promoter of violence who condoned the killing of the innocent.

How can a good religion start from an evil founder?

What makes you think Mohammed was acting in the name of God?
 
Here is a report on a “small group” of Muslims in Indonesia as reported by WorldNetDaily:

Recently over 500,000 Muslims gathered in the capitol to call for a “jihad” against Christian Indonesians.

Chanting “Allah Akbar,” or “God is Great,” and “Jihad!” and “Death to all Christians,” the Muslims marched under the watchful eye of their own green-clad security men.

“Tolerance is nonsense. Slaughter the Christians,” read a large banner that was unfurled at the rally, witnessed by WorldNetDaily. Chants of “Burn the churches!” and “Death to the Crusaders” filled the air.

Father Ricardo said that Muslim vigilantes attacked and burned down the entire campus of Doulos Seminary. Many of the 400 students there were wounded, and a few died.

Muslims threatened further vigilante action around Indonesia at the end of Ramadan. The Islamic Teachers Council of Indonesia wrote a letter to the attorney general of Indonesia asserting that Christian organizations are “conducting illegal activities” such as “Christianizing Muslims,” even though freedom of religion is guaranteed by the Indonesian Constitution.
 
The Muslims tore the newborn infant off her breast and hacked it to pieces before her very eyes.
your entire post is based on a forged hadith by an unreliable narrator and the part about the Muslims killing the infant is not even in the hadith, I could only find the phrase in anonymous blog entries.

if you had presented this argument in a court of law it would be thrown out by the judge.
 


After the battle of Badr, the people of Medinah were horrified that they had given refuge to such a blatant criminal and his followers in their city. Many began protesting the presence of such violent and murderous people in their city. In a free society like Pre-Islamic Arabia, the poets acted as society’s conscience and were free to criticise, satirize and examine the actions of people. The two most famous poets of this kind were Abu 'Afak; an extremely old and respected poet and Asma bint Marwan; a young mother with the gift of superb verse.

Muhammad was enraged at their criticism. When he heard the verses composed by Asma Bint Marwan he was infuriated and screamed aloud, “Will no one rid me of this daughter of Marwan!” That very night a gang of Muslims set out to do the dirty deed. They broke into the poets’ house. She was lying in in her bedroom suckling her newborn child, while her other small children slept nearby. The Muslims tore the newborn infant off her breast and hacked it to pieces before her very eyes. They then made her watch the murder of all four of her children, before raping and then stabbing her repeatedly to death. After the murder when the Muslims went to inform the Prophet, he said “You have done a service to Allah and his Messenger, her life was not worth even two goats!”

A month later the distinguished and highly respected Abu Afak, who was over a hundred years old and reknowned for his sense of fairness, was killed brutally in the same manner as he slept. Once again the Prophet had commented that morning “Who will avenge me on this scoundrel!”

If this is really true, in today situation a man such as this would be hauled before a court of law and be punished by hanging until he dies. If the death penalty has been abolished, he would be left to rot for the rest of his life in jail.

No, no man of God would do what he did.
 
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Salaam/ Peace
I know that Moses killed a slave master who was beating a woman.

Who else did he kill?
Never read your holy book ? Read & u will see your holy book says ’ Save Alive nothing ’ . Your holy book allows father to sell his daughter as slave etc etc. I don’t understand , how & why Chrisitans condemn Quran when they have no problem with all the wars , killings , slaves approved by their own holy book ?

What Do You Know About . .
Muhammad?( peace be upon him)

Listen While You Read -

prophetofislam.com/goodies.html
 
Concerning present day, I haven’t seen any Christians running around in the streets like animals shooting their weapons shouting kill the Pope, kill Isreal and kill anybody else that crosses their paths. They want to kill, kill, kill. That’s all we hear from them.
It’s all you hear because that’s what makes news
Do you remember when the Catholic Church was accused of harbouring paedophile priests? That was front page news for a very long time. The media is biased to some extent and can be rather one-sided, but if the news is persistent throughout the world, how can anyone ignore the reality?
 
He was not a man of God he was a heresiarch.

Even popes have waged war though.
 
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