How Could Mohammed, a Killer, be a Man of God?

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Muslim_Woman said:
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Salaam/ Peace

Never read your holy book ? Read & u will see your holy book says ’ Save Alive nothing ’ . Your holy book allows father to sell his daughter as slave etc etc. I don’t understand , how & why Chrisitans condemn Quran when they have no problem with all the wars , killings , slaves approved by their own holy book ?

What Do You Know About . .
Muhammad?( peace be upon him)

Listen While You Read -

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Please answer the question if you can.

Your evasions expose your inability to confront the truth.
 
famdigy said:
It’s all you hear because that’s what makes news
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How about experiencing the countless treachery of your cohorts personally? Thus that make my case an isolated one?how about the countless others who remained silent because they just want to go on doing business.

i tell you if one group of muslims just say they condemn this islamic atrocities towards other human beings then we can say moderate muslims exist. But as long as no muslim or groups for that matter stand against your fellows, most Christians and the rest of the world will continually brand your religion as a cult of a killer,pedophile, thief, traitor, etc…the followers just following their founder.
 
famdigy said:
your entire post is based on a forged hadith by an unreliable narrator and the part about the Muslims killing the infant is not even in the hadith, I could only find the phrase in anonymous blog entries.

if you had presented this argument in a court of law it would be thrown out by the judge.
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It is from a biography of Mohammed written by a Muslim scholar.

I believe it is credible.

Can you provide evidence that this episode is a forgery?
 
CHESTERTONRULES said:
Are you saying that Jesus and Mohammed are equivalent?
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**Where did I mention Jesus ? St.Peter is not Jesus - & he did “de-vitalise” the persons named. Which is directly relevant to question in the title of the thread. **​

**The issue is trickier than it may seem - plenty of Christians have seen no problem in killing others, either as a punishment for religious error, or in some sort of holy war (sometimes the two are hard to unravel). Whether th****ey were right, is a different matter. **
**This in turn is separate from the question you ask about Jesus & Mohammed. **
**Does that clear things up 🙂 ? **
 
ricko said:
Concerning present day, I haven’t seen any Christians running around in the streets like animals shooting their weapons shouting kill the Pope, kill Isreal and kill anybody else that crosses their paths. They want to kill, kill, kill. That’s all we hear from them.
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**How is this different from saying all Catholics are killers, or all Christians, or all people with a religion 😦 ? **​

 
Gottle_of_Geer said:

**How is this different from saying all Catholics are killers, or all Christians, or all people with a religion 😦 ? **​

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When I see Muslims in the street demonstrating against the excesses of the practioners of the religion of “peace” I’ll buy your line.You are preaching moral equivalency.I can recall Catholics in Northern Ireland demonstrating against the excesses of the IRA and FOR peace.Moderate Muslims MUST condemn the world wide horror and terrorism that has erupted out of Islam.Were you really surprised or shocked that Afgan muslims attacked 15 little girls with acid because they dared go to school?I wasn’t and I’ll bet you weren’t either.Allah must be so proud!Get those virgins lined up.Poor virgins,is it their Hell?
 
Gottle_of_Geer said:

**Where did I mention Jesus ? St.Peter is not Jesus - & he did “de-vitalise” the persons named. Which is directly relevant to question in the title of the thread. **​

**The issue is trickier than it may seem - plenty of Christians have seen no problem in killing others, either as a punishment for religious error, or in some sort of holy war (sometimes the two are hard to unravel). Whether th****ey were right, is a different matter. **
**This in turn is separate from the question you ask about Jesus & Mohammed. **
**Does that clear things up 🙂 ? **
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Not at all.

Christians are sinners.

Jesus, who is God, is not a sinner.

Mohammed is a sinner.
 
I am waiting for the vast majority of Muslims who want peace and want to allow for free expression of religion to tell this loud minority to sit the **** down and shut the **** up.

Otherwise, they either condone it or don’t care.
 
Killing per se is not why Muhammad was not a man of God. Killing people because they do not want to follow his ideologies is what makes him a murderer. Moses did not kill people “unless they bear witness there is no deity except God and Moses is his prophet”. The hebrew scriptures do not prescribe killing so that people bear witness there is no deity except God and Moses is his prophet.
 
Gottle_of_Geer said:

**How is this different from saying all Catholics are killers, or all Christians, or all people with a religion 😦 ? **​

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I think the thrust of the OP is that Mohammad could not be a man of God because of the treacherous things he did which were sinful.
 
CHESTERTONRULES said:
How Could Mohammed, a Killer, be a Man of God?
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Hi

Muhammad killed no innocent and peaceful citizen.
Kindly quote from Quran that he killed one or ordered to kill an innocent and peaceful citizen.

God Allah selected Muhammad as a Messenger; so he is a Man of God Allah, no doubt about it, in my opinion.

I love Jesus and Mary as I do love Buddha and Krishna

Thanks
 
paarsurrey said:
Hi

Muhammad killed no innocent and peaceful citizen.
Kindly quote from Quran that he killed one or ordered to kill an innocent and peaceful citizen.
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Why do you ask for quotes form the Quran? Is it a biography of Mohammad?

Here is the reference by the OP:
When Mohammed first started screaming from the rooftops that he alone had the divine word of God, the people of Mecca ignored him. However, when he started insulting and defaming the religion of the peace loving Meccans, they couldn’t take it anymore and tried persuading him to stop. Mohammed the coward was too scared of the growing hostility against him and instead of calling upon his Allah to strike down the Meccans, he crept out one night and fled for his life.

Ever since that incident, Mohammed was determined to take revenge on the Meccans. He escaped to Medinah, which had a sizeable Jewish population, and started plotting his revenge with a small gang of criminals. This was the beginning of Mohammed’s trail of violence, hatred and bloodshed that would soon destroy the once flourishing culture of Arabia. The story has been documented in detail by his biographers, - surprise raids on trade caravans and tribal settlements, the use of plunder thus obtained for recruiting an ever growing army of greedy desperados, assassinations of opponents, blackmail, expulsion and massacre of the Jews of Medinah, attack and enslavement of the Jews of Khayber, rape of women and children, sale of these victims after rape, trickery, treachery and bribery employed to their fullest extent to grow the numbers of his religion Islam which ironically was supposed to mean “Peace”! He organised no less than 86 expeditions, 26 of which he led himself.

The motives of the converts to Islam was never in any doubt. As D.S. Margoliouth states in his book Muhammad and the rise of Islam

“Of any moralising or demoralising effect that Muhammad’s teaching had upon his followers we cannot say with precision. When he was at the head of the Robber community, it is probable that the demoralising influence began to be felt; it was then that men who had never broken an oath learnt that they might evade their obligations, and that men to whom the blood of their clan had been as their own, began to shed it with impunity in the “cause of god”. And that lying and treachery in the cause of Islam received divine approval. It was then too that Moslems became distinguished by the obscenity of their language. It was then too, that the coveting of goods and wives possessed by Non-muslims was avowed without discouragement from the Prophet…”

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Reuben_J said:
Why do you ask for quotes form the Quran? Is it a biography of Mohammad?
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Hi

Please don’t be angry. Quran is more than that. It encompasses teachings of Muhammad, it encompasses his deeds/act and at the same it is a sort of first class biography of Muhammad in essence. It covers full aspects of Muhammad’s ministry ; 13 years in Mecca and 10 years in Madina. Does it leave anthing? None in my opinion.

I love Jesus and Mary as I do love Buddha and Krishna

Thanks
 
ralphinal said:
I am waiting for the vast majority of Muslims who want peace and want to allow for free expression of religion to tell this loud minority to sit the **** down and shut the **** up.

Otherwise, they either condone it or don’t care.
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If moderate muslims want my respect or even tolerance,the above is an absolute prerequisite.I REFUSE to tolerate the intolerant.
 
paarsurrey said:
Hi

Please don’t be angry. Quran is more than that. It encompasses teachings of Muhammad, it encompasses his deeds/act and at the same it is a sort of first class biography of Muhammad in essence. It covers full aspects of Muhammad’s ministry ; 13 years in Mecca and 10 years in Madina. Does it leave anthing? None in my opinion.

I love Jesus and Mary as I do love Buddha and Krishna

Thanks
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No, I am not angry at all.

If you depend solely on the Quran you’d be ignorant on many things that Mohammad did, good and bad.
 
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