How Dare Bill Cosby!

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Allegations that Bill Cosby groped a woman 30 years ago is all over the tv and print media. The “victim” is instantly credible & being interviewed and quoted. Tell me, what is the difference between this woman and her accusations and Juanita Broderick, who accused then President Clinton of raping her years earlier? Has it anything to do with Cosby not in lock step with the trendy left?
 
Probably. That and the possibility that someone smells the possibility of a cash settlement.
 
I know for a fact from first hand personal experience that Bill Cosby has NOT always been the devoted family man he so likes to portray himself as. Does this mean the current allegations are true? Who knows. At the very least the passage of time makes a fair examination of the facts and resolution very challenging, not to mention raises suspicion about the motivation behind making such allegations decades after the encounter.
 
I know for a fact from first hand personal experience that Bill Cosby has NOT always been the devoted family man he so likes to portray himself as. Does this mean the current allegations are true? Who knows. At the very least the passage of time makes a fair examination of the facts and resolution very challenging, not to mention raises suspicion about the motivation behind making such allegations decades after the encounter.
 
Women who come along thirty years later to accuse a prominent person of some real or imagined transgression disgust me to no end. If this event did happen and if the women were truly traumatized why did she wait until something like 25 years after the statute of limitations to bring it up? I smell an opportunistic attorney wanting money. What I do not think is a coincidence is that it is timed to devalue Mr Cosby as a spokesman who wants to see the African American community stop its suicidal behavior. He must be stepping on the wrong toes.

Lisa N
 
These allegations don’t change the fact that what he said about black youths is true. They have to lift themselves up and speak proper english.
 
I believe in 30 year old accusations about as much as I believe in 20 something year olds recovered memories.:rolleyes: The Cos is a huge target with deep pockets. This second woman claims she not in this for money, yeh right, she might not be going to sue him, but you have to wonder if she is being paid to accuse him. I pray that none of these accusations are true, I have beeen a huge fan of Bill Cosby for as long as I can remember. I also pray that he continues to stand up for what right, he has helped many young people, and there are so many more who need to hear what he has to say.
Linda H.
 
Linda H.:
I believe in 30 year old accusations about as much as I believe in 20 something year olds recovered memories.:rolleyes: The Cos is a huge target with deep pockets. This second woman claims she not in this for money, yeh right, she might not be going to sue him, but you have to wonder if she is being paid to accuse him. I pray that none of these accusations are true, I have beeen a huge fan of Bill Cosby for as long as I can remember. I also pray that he continues to stand up for what right, he has helped many young people, and there are so many more who need to hear what he has to say.
Linda H.
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If she does not sue, I see a book about her affair with him on the horizon.
 
I actually saw her on FOX the other night, and she is a lawyer. I was shocked at that. She also says she only came forward because it was the same MO as the recent accusation and she was feeling like she needed to support that victim. He is innocent until proven and I have always liked him. I wish it weren’t so. Sometimes the rich and deep pocket person has sins that maybe God has forgiven and they have changed their lives for the better, but their fame itself drags them back down into it. I don’t know this would have happened if he weren’t so famous. I will pray for him and the accusers. It is a sordid deal.
 
I don’t know the truth about the allegations, but there is supposed to be a phone call from Cosby which supports his accuser. Also, the woman who stepped forward sounded very credible to me when I saw her on TV. She made sense when she said it was a lot more difficult to bring such allegations against celebrities so many years ago, and that that was a key reason why she didn’t do so then.
 
Island Oak:
I know for a fact from first hand personal experience that Bill Cosby has NOT always been the devoted family man he so likes to portray himself as. Does this mean the current allegations are true? Who knows. At the very least the passage of time makes a fair examination of the facts and resolution very challenging, not to mention raises suspicion about the motivation behind making such allegations decades after the encounter.
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He portrays himself as a devoted family man? I didn’t know that. Now, in his TV show he did, but I do not confuse TV characters with the actors who play them. I thought Cosby’s life was pretty much an open book, that he had been somewhat estranged from his kids and had all the typical marital problems.

But I suppose this will all be used to undercut his criticism of today’s black culture. But to me just fact that he was so successful and was able to hang on so long without all the usual addiction and violence melodramas gives him authority to tell others how to straighten out their act. He’s done ok for himself and others and should be heeded.
 
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Lance:
If she does not sue, I see a book about her affair with him on the horizon.
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At least a three part tv series. Does it strike anyone that in recent years those who “represent” the raising up of culture in their public work have been pilloried on their personal faults in the press?

First we had Bill Bennett, then we had the Catholic publisher who became too “powerful” in Washington, now we have Cosby…I believe this very week the preacher at the Papal Lenten retreat remarked that “saints” are targeted – that is, people who try to do good in the world, to make it a better place somehow are perhaps more vulnerable and after all that rather plays into the Couric crowd doesn’t it - banality, secularism after all those are the “real” values and those who say they are not all there is, well we can show them up for what they really are.

The press doesn’t seem to go after their “own” icons much.
 
Today, we heard about some saints that had a speckled past but turned their lives around and literally were elevated to sainthood in heaven. I am not claiming Bill Cosby to be a saint for sure…but how do we take yesterday’s stories and turn them into redemption stories rather than lawsuits.

Just think how many lawsuits, even a child support lawsuit St.Augustine for example could have filed against him if he walked the earth today and he is one of our greatest saints. That’s the problem with society today. We immediately are quick to condemn, quick to judge, quck to sue and that’s it.
There’s no turning around lives and making something better of it.

Fr.Corapi who is an amazing priest will tell you quickly about his checkered past and how he has done a complete 180 in his life and is hopefully bringing others up from the depths of despair and sinfulness and coming towards the light of holiness and redemption. After all, Jesus hung around with sinners, not saints, didn’t he?
 
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HagiaSophia:
At least a three part tv series. Does it strike anyone that in recent years those who “represent” the raising up of culture in their public work have been pilloried on their personal faults in the press?

First we had Bill Bennett, then we had the Catholic publisher who became too “powerful” in Washington, now we have Cosby…I believe this very week the preacher at the Papal Lenten retreat remarked that “saints” are targeted – that is, people who try to do good in the world, to make it a better place somehow are perhaps more vulnerable and after all that rather plays into the Couric crowd doesn’t it - banality, secularism after all those are the “real” values and those who say they are not all there is, well we can show them up for what they really are.

The press doesn’t seem to go after their “own” icons much.
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Don’t forget Clarence Thomas, Mel Gibson, Dr. Laura, Rush, or anyone else with the temerity to improve the culture.
 
Let’s not forget that some of these very famous finger waggers set their own snares for downfall through their belligerant tone and/or their own conduct. Rush might have avoided a whole lotta angst had he eased up on the hillbilly heroin and Dr. Laura, that staunch promoted of the 5th commandment, abandoned her own aging and ill mother to the point she was dead and decomposing an an apartment for weeks before anyone noticed. Cosby has a ‘love child’ out of wedlock, as well as allegations of affairs and now unwanted sexual advances. Give you a hint, folks, that isn’t the work of the “liberal media,” its good old-fashioned hypocracy.
 
Island Oak:
Let’s not forget that some of these very famous finger waggers set their own snares for downfall through their belligerant tone and/or their own conduct. Rush might have avoided a whole lotta angst had he eased up on the hillbilly heroin and Dr. Laura, that staunch promoted of the 5th commandment, abandoned her own aging and ill mother to the point she was dead and decomposing an an apartment for weeks before anyone noticed. Cosby has a ‘love child’ out of wedlock, as well as allegations of affairs and now unwanted sexual advances. Give you a hint, folks, that isn’t the work of the “liberal media,” its good old-fashioned hypocracy.
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Quite honestly I have not seen Cosby so much as a promoter of family values but as a promoter of personal responsibility in general. IOW I don’t think he is extolling the virtues of his marriage and relationship with his children so much as he’s saying if young African Americans wish to succeed they have to get an education, quit having kids out of wedlock and depending on welfare to support them–goes for males AND females. So I don’t see him as a hypocrite with respect to his current promotion of real achievement in his community.

Also FWIW my understanding of Dr Laura’s situation was that she hadn’t had contact with her mother for many years and thus didn’t know she had died and was rotting in an apartment. The abandonment wasn’t necessarily instigated by Dr Laura, but by her mother. Also as a long time listener to Dr Laura, she is not particularly a champion of parents and often tells her callers “You don’t have a mother/father you have a sperm/egg donor. Cut off contact” if the parent is destructive to the chld or the child’s family. So again I don’t see hypocrisy but rather people who have a particular cause (Dr Laura’s is CHILDREN not parents) who are expected to be perfect in every facet of their life and get shot down if in some facet of their life they are found lacking.

I don’t necessarily say it’s the liberal media but the general purient interest in peoples’ personal lives. For heavens sakes, Bill Bennett apparently gambles. He has a lot of money. He gambles with big dollars. So what?

Lisa N
 
Island Oak:
Let’s not forget that some of these very famous finger waggers set their own snares for downfall through their belligerant tone and/or their own conduct. Rush might have avoided a whole lotta angst had he eased up on the hillbilly heroin and Dr. Laura, that staunch promoted of the 5th commandment, abandoned her own aging and ill mother to the point she was dead and decomposing an an apartment for weeks before anyone noticed. Cosby has a ‘love child’ out of wedlock, as well as allegations of affairs and now unwanted sexual advances. Give you a hint, folks, that isn’t the work of the “liberal media,” its good old-fashioned hypocracy.
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So what are you saying? You have to be Jesus Christ before you can comment? Even Jesus didn’t say that. He said take the beam out of your own eye. Then you can see clearly enough to remove the speck from your neighbor’s. As far as I know, Rush had a lot of back pain. He had the means to try to alleviate that pain (legally or illegally). He wasn’t out telling people not to do what he was doing. Where’s the hypocracy?
 
Just so we know we’re all on the same page here…I take no issue, and in fact am frequently delighted at the blunt approach Cosby takes to some of the social ills in the black community. I also think Dr. Laura has many a good point–despite an abrasive delivery. As far as my opinion of Lush Rumbaugh, I think it’s the one place where Al Franken and I agree.

My point was that if you set yourself up as an arbitor of social values or a moral compass for others you darn well better make sure your own linen isn’t soiled. No one here is perfect…but few of us set ourselves up to so publicly judge, pontificate, pillory and comment on the foibles of others as the above-referenced folks.

And for miguel…last I checked…sending one’s illegal alien-domestic servant out with forged prescriptions to obtain mass quantities of a controlled substance was not the most prudent or legal avenue for treating “back pain.” For a law and order proponent such as Rush who rails against the flow of illegal aliens and revels in ridiculing others with addictive or self-destructive tendencies, it was the HEIGHT of hypocrisy .
 
Island Oak:
…As far as my opinion of Lush Rumbaugh, I think it’s the one place where Al Franken and I agree.

My point was that if you set yourself up as an arbitor of social values or a moral compass for others you darn well better make sure your own linen isn’t soiled. No one here is perfect…but few of us set ourselves up to so publicly judge, pontificate, pillory and comment on the foibles of others as the above-referenced folks.

And for miguel…last I checked…sending one’s illegal alien-domestic servant out with forged prescriptions to obtain mass quantities of a controlled substance was not the most prudent or legal avenue for treating “back pain.” For a law and order proponent such as Rush who rails against the flow of illegal aliens and revels in ridiculing others with addictive or self-destructive tendencies, it was the HEIGHT of hypocrisy .
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When I first heard him on the radio during the Gorbachev era, he did rail against liberals and their stupid policies, including the promotion of condoms and abortion. That’s what made me a fan. I hardly get a chance to hear him these days because I’m at work while he’s on the air. From what I’ve heard, his focus lately is defending Republican politics, attacking Democrat politics, and not so much morals. I take it you don’t believe his “back pain” story. He wouldn’t be the first to have back pain and become addicted to pain killers. I think JFK was in that boat. Some people take desperate measures to get relief. I still don’t see how that is hypocricy. And I have never heard him rail against addicts. (He may have, I’ve personally never heard him at it.) Also, I was not aware that he is railing against the flow of illegals. It wouldn’t surprise me. But not all conservatives do that. So I don’t assume. If, as you say, he was employing them while railing against them, well you might have a point there.
 
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MJE:
Allegations that Bill Cosby groped a woman 30 years ago is all over the tv and print media. The “victim” is instantly credible & being interviewed and quoted. Tell me, what is the difference between this woman and her accusations and Juanita Broderick, who accused then President Clinton of raping her years earlier? Has it anything to do with Cosby not in lock step with the trendy left?
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I didn’t think someone could bring a case to trial that long after it happened.
 
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