How did Mohammed die?

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The poison did not have the same effect it would have had on a normal person, which was instant death (as evidence by the companion who was also poisoned and died). God preserved him, and sustained his life 3-7 years after the incident, until he completed his mission, and died when God decreed, not when the Jewish Lady decreed, thus proving that he was indeed a prophet of God.
That sounds really nice, but it’s unfortunate that Muhammad had to suffer so much pain until the day of his death. Which was from the Morsel as you have admitted.
 
That sounds really nice, but it’s unfortunate that Muhammad had to suffer so much pain until the day of his death. Which was from the Morsel as you have admitted.
At the end of the day Prophet Muhammad was still a prophet of God, from the line of Ishmael.
My faith is not shaken one bit. It is called that unshakeable faith. Prophet Muhammad was sent as a mercy to the world, and his mercy extended to Europe, and brought them from the dark ages to the Renaissance. Europe had poor hygiene practices, which is what lead them into the dark ages, it was the Muslims of Spain who taught them cleanliness, which the Muslims had learn from Prophet Muhammad. Muslims also brought higher education to Europe.
 
At the end of the day Prophet Muhammad was still a prophet of God, from the line of Ishmael.

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Ismael is not a prophet in Judaism nor Christianity.

It’s only Islams claim that he was a prophet.
 
Ismael is not a prophet in Judaism nor Christianity.

It’s only Islams claim that he was a prophet.
For argument sake Ishmael doesn’t have to be a prophet, for the prophecy to be true. In the bible it say, “As for Ishmael, I have heard thee. Behold I have blessed him… and I will make him a great nation. But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.” (Genesis 17:20-21)

God blessed Ishmael and made Ishmael a great nation through Prophet Muhammad. And since the context of the bible is religion, greatness obviously relates to religion.

Also, the bible does not describe Ishmael as a prophet or a non-prophet. Islam describing him as a Prophet, would not be a contradiction.
 
At the end of the day Prophet Muhammad was still a prophet of God, from the line of Ishmael.
My faith is not shaken one bit. It is called that unshakeable faith. Prophet Muhammad was sent as a mercy to the world, and his mercy extended to Europe, and brought them from the dark ages to the Renaissance.
 
For argument sake Ishmael doesn’t have to be a prophet, for the prophecy to be true. In the bible it say, “As for Ishmael, I have heard thee. Behold I have blessed him… and I will make him a great nation. But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.” (Genesis 17:20-21)

God blessed Ishmael and made Ishmael a great nation through Prophet Muhammad. And since the context of the bible is religion, greatness obviously relates to religion.

Also, the bible does not describe Ishmael as a prophet or a non-prophet. Islam describing him as a Prophet, would not be a contradiction.
Well…what is the proof Muhammad’s line can be traced to Ishmael?
 
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. Muslims also brought higher education to Europe.
Another thought…is Muslims did indeed bring higher education to Europe…how come it is only Europe that benefitted, and not the Middle east?

And it seems, all the great advances in science occurred in Europe, not in the Middle East…if indeed it was the Muslims who had higher education than those in Europe?

Can you explain this phenomena?
 
That sounds really nice, but it’s unfortunate that Muhammad had to suffer so much pain until the day of his death. Which was from the Morsel as you have admitted.
If the Prophet(PBUH) didn’t go through trials and tribulations, how would I know what to do if I am faced with the same. His life is an example to us, the good and the bad that happened to him. It shows us how merciful he was that he forgave the lady that poisoned him.

Life is not easy on this earth, especially for a messenger, we are going to be tested including Prophets and his actions and his teachings during difficult times enables me to show the same patience and perseverance during difficult times.
 
Our Imams (AS) confirmed that their grandfather, the Prophet (P), had been poisoned in his last days by Aisha and Hafsa, at the order of their fathers, Abu Bakr and Omar. One of the famous ancient Shia interpreters of Quran by the name of Ali Ibn Ibrahim Al-Qummi, who lived in the days of Imam al-Hassan al-Askry (AS), relates a Hadith as reported by the Imams regarding the assassination of the Prophet (P).

"The Prophet said to Hafsa: ‘I will tell you a secret. If you divulge it, Allah, His Angels and people will curse you.’ ‘So, what is it?’ wondered Hafsa. The Prophet said: ‘Abu Bakr will be able to seize the Caliphate and power after me, and will be succeeded by your father, Omar.’ Hafsa wondered: ‘Who informed you of this?’ ‘Allah, the Omnipresent, the Omniscient informed me.’

"On the same day, Hafsa divulged the secret to her friend, Aisha. In turn, Aisha divulged the secret to her father, Abu Bakr. So, Abu Bakr came to Omar and said: ‘My daughter Aisha told me a secret reported by Hafsa, but I cannot always trust what Aisha says. So, you ask your daughter Hafsa, make sure and tell me.’

“Omar went over to Hafsa, and asked her. In the beginning, she was startled and denied it. But, Omar said to her: ‘If you have indeed heard this secret, then, tell us so we can immediately seize power and get rid of Muhammad’. So, Hafsa said: ‘yes, he told me that.’ At this point, those four got together and conspired to poison the Prophet” (Tafseer al-Qommi, Vol II, Page 367, Bihar-ul-Anwar by Allama al-Majlisi, Vol XXII, Page 239).

It’s also narrated in Tafsir Al-Ayashi “Imam al-Sadiq (AS) was sitting with a group of his followers, and asked them: ‘Do you know whether the Prophet died a natural death or was murdered? Allah the Almighty says: “if then he died or is killed”. The truth is that the Prophet was poisoned in his last days before he died. Aisha and Hafsa administered poison in his food.’ Upon hearing this, the Imam Sadiq’s followers said that they and their fathers were among the worst villains ever created by Allah.” (Tafseer al-Ayashi, Vol I, Page 200; Bihar-ul-Anwar, by Allama Al-Majlisi, Vol XXII, Page 516)

Al-Ayashi relates another Hadith attributed to Imam Al-Sadiq (AS) in which he says: “al-Hussein Ibn Munther asked Imam Al-Sadiq (AS) about Allah’s words “if then he dies or is killed will you turn back upon your heels”. Does it mean that the Prophet died a natural death or was murdered? Imam Al-Sadiq (AS) said: In this verse, Allah refers to the Prophet’s companions who committed the misdeed”. (Tafseer Al Ayash, Vol I, Page 200; Bihar-ul-Anwar, By Allama Al-Majlisi, Vol XX, Page 91)
 
Well…what is the proof Muhammad’s line can be traced to Ishmael?
It is known the Arabs are descendant of Sons of Ishmael. Prophet Muhammad was from the tribe of Quraysh, which of the linage of Ishmael. I don’t think any historians dispute that.
 
Another thought…is Muslims did indeed bring higher education to Europe…how come it is only Europe that benefitted, and not the Middle east?
After Europe benefited from the higher education from the Muslims, they turned around and colonized the world. They destroyed the Ottomon Empire, and they destroyed the endowments that funded many of the Islamic Universities across the Muslims world. The placed dictators in charge of the their countries and put the Islamic world into a dark age. They destroyed traditional Sunni Islam, which gave birth to Protestant Islam (which is known as Wahabism-Salafism), and most if not all Islamic terrorist groups originate from Wahabism.
And it seems, all the great advances in science occurred in Europe, not in the Middle East…if indeed it was the Muslims who had higher education than those in Europe?
Can you explain this phenomena?
Refer to the above…
 
For argument sake Ishmael doesn’t have to be a prophet, for the prophecy to be true. In the bible it say, “As for Ishmael, I have heard thee. Behold I have blessed him… and I will make him a great nation. But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.” (Genesis 17:20-21)

God blessed Ishmael and made Ishmael a great nation through Prophet Muhammad. And since the context of the bible is religion, greatness obviously relates to religion.

Also, the bible does not describe Ishmael as a prophet or a non-prophet. Islam describing him as a Prophet, would not be a contradiction.
Are you acknowledging that God’s covenant was with Isaac (and the Jews), and not with Ishmael (and the muslims)? 🤷
 
Greetings all.
I am one of those who believe in the evidence provided that the prophet was poisoned by ayesha, ahfsa and their fathers. There is a history behind all this and its not necessary to repeat it here when the information is availailbe else where.
My intention to join this form is to give perspective of what my believes are as a Rafidi Muslim. I suggest some of you who like to know more about our beliefs to read through infomation provided by Yasir Habib on his website in english: alqatrah.net. It is always possible to ask Q&A his office in London through the website.

In summary, all the terorism in so called ‘Islam’ today and all the wars and the terrorism that has happened over the last 1400 years roots back to the early days of Islam and was instigated by abu bakr, Omer and their daughters Ayesha and Hafsa who introduced terrorism and sabatage at the death of the prohphet and used Islam’s name for worldly gains by them and their followers in the last 1400 years by so called ‘sunni bakris’ and to some extent by some ‘shia batrees, like the ones who rule Iran these days’. All the terrorism (physical) or indcuced (corrupted hadeeth books, corrupting prophet’s personalitiy) is rooted back to these 4 primary bakri terrorists namely Abu Bakr, Omer, Ayesha and to some extent Hafsa and is used to justify any and all killings for political gains in the name of Islam (the takfiri, salafi wahabee, bakri).
I do not have any association with the website alqatrah.net however I have been a avid reader of the material avaialble on the website and only wish that the truth be available to our christan readers specially who are curious about Islam.

The information available and the lectures by Yasir Habib is not new information but put togeather to show the version of Islam we Rafidi believe in.
 
Greetings all.
I am one of those who believe in the evidence provided that the prophet was poisoned by ayesha, ahfsa and their fathers. There is a history behind all this and its not necessary to repeat it here when the information is availailbe else where.
My intention to join this form is to give perspective of what my believes are as a Rafidi Muslim. I suggest some of you who like to know more about our beliefs to read through infomation provided by Yasir Habib on his website in english: alqatrah.net. It is always possible to ask Q&A his office in London through the website.

In summary, all the terorism in so called ‘Islam’ today and all the wars and the terrorism that has happened over the last 1400 years roots back to the early days of Islam and was instigated by abu bakr, Omer and their daughters Ayesha and Hafsa who introduced terrorism and sabatage at the death of the prohphet and used Islam’s name for worldly gains by them and their followers in the last 1400 years by so called ‘sunni bakris’ and to some extent by some ‘shia batrees, like the ones who rule Iran these days’. All the terrorism (physical) or indcuced (corrupted hadeeth books, corrupting prophet’s personalitiy) is rooted back to these 4 primary bakri terrorists namely Abu Bakr, Omer, Ayesha and to some extent Hafsa and is used to justify any and all killings for political gains in the name of Islam (the takfiri, salafi wahabee, bakri).
I do not have any association with the website alqatrah.net however I have been a avid reader of the material avaialble on the website and only wish that the truth be available to our christan readers specially who are curious about Islam.

The information available and the lectures by Yasir Habib is not new information but put togeather to show the version of Islam we Rafidi believe in.
It’s nice to know you’re not blaming Christians and Jews.
 
If you follow through the lectures ‘how islam was corrupted’ on www.alqatrah.net, you will see that it was initailly small minority of deviant groups within the christians and jews community of the time who facilitated Omer and Abu Bakr via proxy to take on the hats of islam. The role of Omer corrupting islam from within is similar to St Paul corrupting christianity from within. Similar to the Jewish corruption of religion from within as well.

Once Omer was in power it was ‘free for all’ and he brought in the renowned Jewish rabbi Ka‘b al-Aḥbār to sit on the pulpit and bring in the Jewish version of God and jewish fabricated stories which are now mainly found in hadeeth books Bukhari and Muslim.

Hope you will follow through with the infomation avaialble on the website.
 
If you follow through the lectures ‘how islam was corrupted’ on www.alqatrah.net, you will see that it was initailly small minority of deviant groups within the christians and jews community of the time who facilitated Omer and Abu Bakr via proxy to take on the hats of islam. The role of Omer corrupting islam from within is similar to St Paul corrupting christianity from within. Similar to the Jewish corruption of religion from within as well.

Once Omer was in power it was ‘free for all’ and he brought in the renowned Jewish rabbi Ka‘b al-Aḥbār to sit on the pulpit and bring in the Jewish version of God and jewish fabricated stories which are now mainly found in hadeeth books Bukhari and Muslim.

Hope you will follow through with the infomation avaialble on the website.
It wasn’t just Paul and his letters who corrupted Christianity, it was also Luke who was with Paul and wrote about all that Paul did. This was of course after he deceived Theophilus with his own, obviously fabricated but geographically and historically accurate to the tee Gospel.

It was also the great corrupter Peter who wrote about Jesus’s death and resurrection, but also relayed to Mark to write a corrupt Gospel confirming Jesus’s death and resurrection. And don’t let me get started on that liar Matthew.

I think the greatest corrupter of all was John though, the Disciple whom Jesus loved standing at the base of the cross in the last moments of Jesus’s (apparant) death. He wrote 3 letters and a Gospel about Jesus, no doubt he was the most devious of all.
 
Did you expect bakri Islam to be uncontaminated and uncorrupt? Corruption from within, sabotage, terrorism is rampant in Bakri Islam.
And just like the Bani Israel who killer 70,000 prophets, the bakris have hijacked Islam for the last 1400 years by killing the prophet and prophet’s family, take for example starting with (see evidence on www.alqatrah.net):🙂
Bakri Emperors Abu Bakr, Omer (Paul of bakri islam), Ayesha and Hifsa killing Prophet Mohammed.
Bakri Empress Ayesha, the rabai Kaab Al Ahbar, Abu Hurreira the Jew doing character assassination of Prophet Mohammed
Bakri Emperor Omer killing Prophet Mohammed’s daugher Fatima
Bakri Empress Ayesha attempting to kill Imam Ali at the battle of the camel
Bakri Muaviya and Joda poisioning prophet’s grandson Imam Hasan
Bakri Yazid ibn Muawia slaughtering prophet’s grandson Imam Hussein and his family
Bakri Emperors Bani Umaiyad and Bani Abbas killing Prophets Generation (8 Imams)
Trend continued over the 1400 years and goes on till today with Bakri wahabi,salafi, takfiri, the sons of Ayesha killing slaughtering, blowing up innocent muslims and non muslims alike all over the world including 9/11, london underground, woolwich, pakistan, syria, iraq, and in lebanon.

The takfiris, the likes of bakri whahabis, salafis, have even hijacked the main stream sunni sufi/brailvee islams, you can visit MissyB786’s sponsored bakri wahabi, salafi, takfiri websites like sunniforum and islamic-forum.net to find about the Sons of Ayesha’s takfiri, whahabi, salafi trends and there religious support for Emperors Abu Bakr, Omer, Emperes Ayesha, Hifsa and Muavia.

But if you want to know about real Islam as brought by Prophet Mohammed and the 12 Imams, visit www.alqatrah.net
 
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