How did some protestants tried to convert you?

[Peter_J]

historically Catholics targeted non-believers, but in dealings with those who are already Non-Catholic Christians, they usually do not engage in evangelical activities.

I don’t know who wrote your history books, but I take it that they ignore (or at least whitewash) the Union of Brest – which most certainly did not target non-believers.

 

[Kamaz]

Where does the issue of conversion come from?

Lets have an objective view of historical events of “religion”.
Before Christianity came, what did people believe in?
During Jesus’s time, we had the Roman Empire which ruled over Israel, and the greater part of Europe. The Roman armies were sent all over the Empire and carried their religion.
The big question is what was their religion? Did they convert to Christianity, did a person preach to them? When Jesus was here on earth, did He ever preach to people?

If you research on the documented history, you’ll find that the Roman Empire had a state religion called Mithraism. Also, there were other deities eg Jupiter, Venus, Diana etc.
The early Christian martyrs were killed because they refused to worship the gods of the Romans.

In AD 323, Emperor Constantine allowed Christianity to be practiced in the Roman Empire and so people were converted slowly and they abandoned their former ways of worship and embraced Christianity.
Jesus made the ultimate sacrifice of death on the cross for mankind to be reconciled with God. Somebody labored tirelessly to bring the Gospel to us, otherwise we would not have known Jesus.

 

[horselvr]

Here we go again.

“Going from Anglican to Catholic and then Orthodox required little adjustment.”. Really??

Are you saying that YOU an Anglican believed in everything the CC teaches??? Then why were you anglican and not Catholic and why would you leave the One True Church that Christ instituted?

Because I will tell you the Anglicans/Episcopalians I know reject the CC teachings and refuse to follow the Pope and the teachings on Mary and scoff at the Catholic Church.

And Andrew, you are aware that just because a church has statues, a tabernacle, with an altar, and stations of the cross and even calls themselves “catholic” does not mean they are. The anglicans that I have known for many years have all of this in their church too but reject the Catholic teachings as most protestants do.

If they believed as the Catholic faith teaches they would be Catholic—period.

 

[VivienneJ]

Both Andrew and Horselvr have valid points. I would agree, at least with the part of Andrew’s statement that I bolded here:

**Going from Anglican to Catholic **and then Orthodox required little adjustment.

because that is the way it was for me. Many twists and turns eventually brought me to the Catholic Church and the way my understanding had developed, in spite of being a faithful Anglican really meant that my conversion ‘required little adjustment’; even my priest here agreed on this.

Here we go again.

“Going from Anglican to Catholic and then Orthodox required little adjustment.”. Really??

Are you saying that YOU an Anglican believed in everything the CC teaches??? Then why were you anglican and not Catholic and why would you leave the One True Church that Christ instituted?

Many Anglicans believe almost the same things the Catholic Church teaches except, there is no emphasis on the need to belong to “the One True Church that Christ instituted” and as an Anglican I gave little thought to this simple fact. If this were to be made clearer, more may well convert, I don’t know.

Because I will tell you the Anglicans/Episcopalians I know reject the CC teachings and refuse to follow the Pope and the teachings on Mary and scoff at the Catholic Church.

I’m sorry the Anglicans you know scoff at the Catholic Church, most of the ones I know don’t; those that do are the ‘progressive’ folks who embrace gay marriage and female ordination, so it’s easy to see what their difficulty with Catholicism is. Refuse to follow the Pope is understandable, he is not the leader of their church.

The anglicans that I have known for many years have all of this in their church too but reject the Catholic teachings as most protestants do.

Because they are protestants, yes they believe as protestants do.

If they believed as the Catholic faith teaches they would be Catholic—period.

And they may well be on their way to the Catholic Church, sometimes it is exactly the similarities that make it most difficult to see why you need to leave one and join the other.

 

[horselvr]

My old friends are not progressive anglicans. They do not go along with gay marriage---- they have never said if they agree or not on female ordination. So I can’t comment on that. They think it is laughable that our Priest don’t marry and have done so in front of me.

How can any anglican come “easily to the Catholic Church” when they have a reusal to follow the Pope. Of course they don’t accept him as they are protestants that is a given and exactly my point! If you don’t accept the Pope than how can you make “an easy transition to Catholicism???”

I don’t fnd anglicans believing that same as Catholics at all. Reasons have already been stated above. Just because a congregation calls themselves catholic, has statues, has their communion, a few bells and incense and “high mass” does not Catholic make especially when you turn your back on the Pope and the teachiings of the Catholic Church----afterall you are protestants.

So how pray tell does going from anglican to Catholic “require little adjustment” with a protestant mindset.

 

[drac16]

I got a little present from one of them . I was given a calender and it were a few citations of Qur’anic passages about Jesus Christ [peace be upon him]. I thought “Ok, cool. It seems nice enough”. But…as I continued to go through it, I saw a few interpolations from what was clearly a christian source. The author(s) said that, because the Qur’an doesn’t mention Jesus [peace be upon him] having sinned, that that is profound. The calendar also quoted the Qur’ans narration of the story of Abraham’s sacrifice and then quoted a few Bible passages to prove that this was was a foreshadowing of the christian Jesus.

Then there was something in the end about asking Jesus to come into my heart. Wooooooow. To be fair, I don’t know that this “gift” was from a protestant, but I believe it was because they’re known to hand out tracts about Islam (usually misrepresenting it, no less).

 

[Peter_J]

How can any anglican come “easily to the Catholic Church” when they have a reusal to follow the Pope. Of course they don’t accept him as they are protestants that is a given and exactly my point! If you don’t accept the Pope than how can you make “an easy transition to Catholicism???”

The way I see it, the Ordinariates aren’t an attempt to get Anglicans to switch to Catholicism, but a way of making reasonable accomodation for those Anglicans who – of their own accord – want to switch.

To quote Cardinal Kaspar, “We are not fishing in the Anglican pond.”

 

[horselvr]

Yes but to do that there are certain beliefs they must accept and the pope is one of them. Unless I read terms incorrectly.

 

[Peter_J]

Yes but to do that there are certain beliefs they must accept and the pope is one of them.

Yes.

 

[Eldee]

The best response is to accentuate the positive. That is, in most cases we can find common ground with those who differ with us. Granted there are those who can get obnoxious about it and present a dilemma for us. But I think for the most part those zealous Protestants can respect out desire to be faithful to our beliefs.

In fact most can realize there is a time coming when we will need to recognize each other as allies, and join in moving arm in arm, against the growing forces opposed to Christianity.

Oh, and it doesn’t hurt to point out that our well known “Hail Mary” is not a prayer to Mary as a divine person, but a prayer asking the Mary, beloved by all Christians, to “…pray for us …”.

 

[JonNC]

=Eldee;11452930]The best response is to accentuate the positive. That is, in most cases we can find common ground with those who differ with us. Granted there are those who can get obnoxious about it and present a dilemma for us. But I think for the most part those zealous Protestants can respect out desire to be faithful to our beliefs.

In fact most can realize there is a time coming when we will need to recognize each other as allies, and join in moving arm in arm, against the growing forces opposed to Christianity.

I contend that time has already arrived. This picture of Catholic Bishop Lori and LCMS Pres. Harrison in front of Congress against the HHS Mandate is evidence.

Oh, and it doesn’t hurt to point out that our well known “Hail Mary” is not a prayer to Mary as a divine person, but a prayer asking the Mary, beloved by all Christians, to “…pray for us …”.

Indeed.

Jon

 

[grgr]

I know many Catholics seem to believe that SDAs hate Catholics and it’s understandable the way some of them act. However this ‘hatred’ of Catholicism is not taught by the church. Just as Catholics, Methodists, Muslims etc. will have people representing them in the wrong way SDAs do too. I’m not here to argue but just try and clarify a few things because reading through these forums I’ve seen a lot of misinformation regarding the SDA church and what they teach.

Here’s a statement on Catholics by the way: adventist.org/information/official-statements/statements/article/go/0/how-seventh-day-adventists-view-roman-catholicism/

For example if you look through the church manual there is no mention of the Papacy whatsoever. I’m not trying to convert people but would rather people had a fair image of SDAs.

P.S Apologies if this is in the wrong thread.

 

[MaryT777]

grgr:

I tried to quote you but it wouldn’t work (Maybe because you’re a trial member)
As a Catholic I am curious what the SDA does teach about the Papacy so I have started a new thread. I hope you’ll post on that thread in the non Catholic forums.

Welcome to the forums.
Mary.