How did the authors know certain details?

[friardchips]

…however, even though the Bible quote is unrelated to our conversation - because God was speaking to Moses that he would instruct the people - it was interesting to read anyway and a served to be a good reminder. So thank you anyway!

 

[friardchips]

…and if you meant that God was somehow controlling Moses’ mind this also is not true in the slightest. Let me give an example in human terms:

If you have teacher who you respect and love and take advice from, and this teacher tells you to do something, if you do it, is this controlling your mind?..

Or, are you accepting the advice given to you because you respect and honour your teacher and know in your heart and mind that when your teacher speaks and teaches, that from them comes good and true things, which benefit you, and so the teacher’s command / guidance is the right thing to carry out?..

We are not puppets. We have freewill. People have a choice to follow God. He laid down commandments for us to follow. We can go either way. Moses loved God and so obeyed his Master and God. This is not mind control, it is faith, and trust, based on love and a wise fear of the Lord our God.

I hope this helps.

 

[tanachanswers]

It amazes me how many times people pick random bits of Scripture out of context to prove a point that has nothing to do with the question in the thread!

I’m confused, i responded to someone saying the heart was good. So i pointed out that G-d does not consider following after ones heart is wicked.

We are not puppets. We have freewill. People have a choice to follow God. He laid down commandments for us to follow. We can go either way. Moses loved God and so obeyed his Master and God. This is not mind control, it is faith, and trust, based on love and a wise fear of the Lord our God.

No we are not puppets. Yet, Mosheh wrote what revealed to him letter for letter. And this is why Torah Scrolls are copied and checked so carefully until this day.

If one follows the advice of a teacher or not it has no real effect on the ones self. Yet, if one ignores the the teaching of G-d the effect is almost always death.

So, i think your analogy falls short of the verse.

 

[tanachanswers]

…and if you meant that God was somehow controlling Moses’ mind this also is not true in the slightest. Let me give an example in human terms:

If you have teacher who you respect and love and take advice from, and this teacher tells you to do something, if you do it, is this controlling your mind?..

Or, are you accepting the advice given to you because you respect and honour your teacher and know in your heart and mind that when your teacher speaks and teaches, that from them comes good and true things, which benefit you, and so the teacher’s command / guidance is the right thing to carry out?..

We are not puppets. We have freewill. People have a choice to follow God. He laid down commandments for us to follow. We can go either way. Moses loved God and so obeyed his Master and God. This is not mind control, it is faith, and trust, based on love and a wise fear of the Lord our God.
I hope this helps.

If one follows the advice of a teacher or not it has no real effect on the ones self. Yet, if one ignores the the teaching of G-d the effect is almost always death.

So, i think your analogy falls short of the verse.

 

[friardchips]

If one follows the advice of a teacher or not it has no real effect on the ones self. Yet, if one ignores the the teaching of G-d the effect is almost always death.

So, i think your analogy falls short of the verse.

I don’t think we understand one another clearly. Our communication is being lost in translation. Look at it this way:

God does not do things because He wants us to die.

Neither does a teacher.

Truth is taught in order to preserve one’s life, one’s faith, one’s soul (most importantly) and one’s good perspective - among other things.

Any opposition to what is good and true in life will bring us a step closer to death or death itself.

Do you understand now?

 

[friardchips]

I’m confused, i responded to someone saying the heart was good. So i pointed out that G-d does not consider following after ones heart is wicked…

This is not what was said and not the point of the dialogue.

 

[tanachanswers]

I don’t think we understand one another clearly. Our communication is being lost in translation. Look at it this way:

God does not do things because He wants us to die.

Neither does a teacher.

Truth is taught in order to preserve one’s life, one’s faith, one’s soul (most importantly) and one’s good perspective - among other things.

Any opposition to what is good and true in life will bring us a step closer to death or death itself.

Do you understand now?

I believe that you are truly confused placing G-d and the teacher on the same level.

 

[friardchips]

I believe that you are truly confused placing G-d and the teacher on the same level.

Just trying to illustrate a point.

 

[friardchips]

Do you think God is angry, malevolent, vengeful, a dictator, wants to make a fool of you, wants you to suffer, changes - like the seasons, is temperamental?

If yes, to any of the above, then someone needs to go back to the drawing board again.

 

[Mintaka]

Inspiration worked differently with different Scriptures.

For example, we know that many of the Biblical prophets were inspired in different ways. Some of the early ones apparently went into ecstasy or had dreams, whereas later prophets found themselves being inspired to compose poetry, orally or in writing, or to write down messages from God. Jeremiah, Hosea, and other prophets even ended up acting out messages from God as a sort of visible God-inspired performance art.

So I would expect that all the Biblical writers were inspired in different ways, in accordance with God’s plan for them: some in a more openly mystical way (hearing locutions from God, having visions and ecstasies), while others wrote inspired texts without knowing it.

The best example of this was the “author” of 2nd Maccabees, who explains carefully at the beginning that he’s just an editor, editing down the five volumes of history written by Jason. But Jason’s five volumes didn’t make it into Scripture, and the humble editor’s version was God-breathed.

God works in mysterious ways. Keep looking around, keep asking Him why, but don’t expect instant answers in a nice envelope, like instant hot chocolate.

 

[SpeakKindly]

Inspiration worked differently with different Scriptures.

For example, we know that many of the Biblical prophets were inspired in different ways. Some of the early ones apparently went into ecstasy or had dreams, whereas later prophets found themselves being inspired to compose poetry, orally or in writing, or to write down messages from God. Jeremiah, Hosea, and other prophets even ended up acting out messages from God as a sort of visible God-inspired performance art.

So I would expect that all the Biblical writers were inspired in different ways, in accordance with God’s plan for them: some in a more openly mystical way (hearing locutions from God, having visions and ecstasies), while others wrote inspired texts without knowing it.

The best example of this was the “author” of 2nd Maccabees, who explains carefully at the beginning that he’s just an editor, editing down the five volumes of history written by Jason. But Jason’s five volumes didn’t make it into Scripture, and the humble editor’s version was God-breathed.

God works in mysterious ways. Keep looking around, keep asking Him why, but don’t expect instant answers in a nice envelope, like instant hot chocolate.

This answer seems to help me see things more clearly. My struggle with understanding how the authors knew the details is that they had to have started to write, and knew basically what would be written, so I’m not sure how they were told by God - as in, what means, God directly helped.