How do Catholics admit divorced people?

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Gertabelle said:
When I sent in my documents to the Tribunal for review (married in a civil ceremony, and then divorced), the document they sent me was called a “Decree of Nullity.”
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Is it the case that a Catholic marrying outside the Church has by definition entered an invalid marriage and thus a declaration of nullity can always be forthcoming?
 
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Gertabelle:
When I sent in my documents to the Tribunal for review (married in a civil ceremony, and then divorced), the document they sent me was called a “Decree of Nullity.”
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Is it the case that a Catholic marrying outside the Church has by definition entered an invalid marriage and thus a declaration of nullity can always be forthcoming?
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Fall River Diocesan Tribunal states:
A Defect (or Lack) of Form Case is an administrative process that is used when Catholics marry outside the Church. This is technically called a declaration of nullity based on a defect of form.
Defect (Lack) of Form Case
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BroIgnatius said:
I will stay with the Church and her inflatable teachings on marriage
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What a scream.
Is that inflatable as in life raft as in barque of Peter,
or inflatable as in new development to accomodate changing times but still in line with tradition 😀.
 
It is as infallible teaching, as it is an obvious typo. Thank you for you kind heads up
 
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BroIgnatius said:
It is as infallible teaching, as it is an obvious typo. Thank you for you kind heads up
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Personally, I smiled when I saw “inflatable” teaching. I can’t even imagine what that would mean, but some typos are good for a chuckle. At least on this new platform, we can go back and edit our posts for more than 20 minutes!

Typos aside, thanks for sharing your thoughts here.
 
Yes we all understood what you meant.
Good for a friendly chuckle though.
 
PHXsunsAZ said:
I’m going through this right now. It’s not a big deal, getting an annulment that is. If you were never married in the church technically you were never married to begin with. I got divorced and remarried outside of the church but decided to do it the right way. To give you an idea of the time involved, we started to process about a month ago and we should be on track for a Feb wedding.
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Can you explain why you personally are getting an annulment if you were never married in the Catholic Church? Or is it your Catholic partner who is getting it? What you write above doesn’t seem to quite add up. Do you mean your original marriage actually was in the Church?
 
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PHXsunsAZ:
I’m going through this right now. It’s not a big deal, getting an annulment that is. If you were never married in the church technically you were never married to begin with. I got divorced and remarried outside of the church but decided to do it the right way. To give you an idea of the time involved, we started to process about a month ago and we should be on track for a Feb wedding.
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Can you explain why you personally are getting an annulment if you were never married in the Catholic Church? Or is it your Catholic partner who is getting it? What you write above doesn’t seem to quite add up. Do you mean your original marriage actually was in the Church?
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Annulments are required even if the first marriage was outside the Church before either party was Catholic. I am an example of that.

Also, non Catholic marriages are considered Sacramental if both parties were validly baptized in their denomination.
 
BroIgnatius said:
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BlackFriar:
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PHXsunsAZ:
I’m going through this right now. It’s not a big deal, getting an annulment that is. If you were never married in the church technically you were never married to begin with. I got divorced and remarried outside of the church but decided to do it the right way. To give you an idea of the time involved, we started to process about a month ago and we should be on track for a Feb wedding.
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Can you explain why you personally are getting an annulment if you were never married in the Catholic Church? Or is it your Catholic partner who is getting it? What you write above doesn’t seem to quite add up. Do you mean your original marriage actually was in the Church?
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Annulments are required even if the first marriage was outside the Church before either party was Catholic. I am an example of that.

Also, non Catholic marriages are considered Sacramental if both parties were validly baptized in their denomination.
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Yes I am aware of this but I wanted the poster to advise the exact details of his status before going into these possible scenarios. Nor does what you suggest necessitate annulment if the conversion involved a non Christian religion. Petrine and Pauline privileges etc.

Which is why I repeat my above advice to the OP,
don’t ask amateurs here. See the local PP as it soon gets very very complicated depending on your complete background and also of those whom you civilly married/divorced.
 
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Ask a tribunal Canon Lawyer, its not a question helpfully answered by amateurs.
 
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What does the church decide about someone who has been abandoned? Let’s say they were both devout Catholics when married but years later one of them ups and leaves and gets a legal divorce.

Can the spouse who was abandoned get remarried?
 
Annulment first. The annulment is decided on whether the marriage was valid and licit.
Not on what happens during the marriage. For example abuse, cheating, growing apart, abandonment.
Unless those things had an attribute brought into the marriage making it illicit.
 
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Roseeurekacross said:
Annulment first. The annulment is decided on whether the marriage was valid and licit.

Not on what happens during the marriage. For example abuse, cheating, growing apart, abandonment.

Unless those things had an attribute brought into the marriage making it illicit.
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So if the marriage was valid on the day they said “I do” then the answer is no, the abandoned spouse can’t remarried and remain in full communion with the RCC.
 
The party wanting the annulment sees their Parish annulment officer. Lots of paperwork, witness statements etc is done. It all gets sent to the Tribunal to rule on. If the ruling is the marriage is licit…

It’s a long process. We used to have a Canon lawyer on CAF. Not sure if he migrated

www.aboutcatholics.com

Divorce, Annulments, and Remarriage - About Catholics

What the Catholic Church really teaches about divorce, annulments, and re-marriage.
www.aboutcatholics.com
 
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lanman87 said:
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Roseeurekacross:
Annulment first. The annulment is decided on whether the marriage was valid and licit.

Not on what happens during the marriage. For example abuse, cheating, growing apart, abandonment.

Unless those things had an attribute brought into the marriage making it illicit.
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So if the marriage was valid on the day they said “I do” then the answer is no, the abandoned spouse can’t remarried and remain in full communion with the RCC.
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That is correct, if the couple were joined by God, then no man can separate them.
 
Brendan said:
hat is correct, if the couple were joined by God, then no man can separate them.
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That doesn’t seem fair to the person who was wronged. It is as if they are being punished for the sins of someone else.
 
lanman87 said:
That doesn’t seem fair to the person who was wronged. It is as if they are being punished for the sins of someone else.
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When they married they made a commitment to God as well as their spouse. There is no unfairness in expecting that we honor our commitment to God, even if the spouse wrongs us.
 
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